Pacific BX2

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  1. McLovin

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    I asked this question a couple of weeks ago to TW:
    In brief, their response was 'mid-2013'.
     
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    They aren't soft... The XForce is 58 on the TW's stiffness rating, but they feel much more stiffer than the Steam 99S.
     
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    Anybody uuse the X Fast Pro? It has a high stiffmness rating. Does it have a dampened feel?
     
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    I demoed this one, but did not give it enough time bc it did not impress me immediately as much as I had hoped......

    Nothing bad to say-- I guess expectations were likely unreasonable, and I was going through racquet selection overload at time,,,,,,,

    To answer your question---
    YES- it has a dampened feel// more so than stiffness would indicate
     
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  5. McLovin

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    Agreed. I didn't care for it much when I hit with it. Then, last week, I hit with another TT member and handed it to him. He said 'it kinda feels like a dampened PD'.

    Now I know why I didn't care for it...
     
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    Pacific should give me a job bc I've been pimping the X Force PRO all over the forum, but cannot say enough superlatives about this stick!!

    Just received new one from TW today after demo last week
     
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  7. McLovin

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    Well, I agree with you on this one. I've been using this stick for the last 18 months, and it just feels right. Granted, I'm looking at switching to a Yonex VCORE Tour 97 310g, but have since gone back to my X Force Pros while I await the Yonex, and am beginning to wonder why I even looked elsewhere.
     
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    HOLY SH$T!!!
    I literally just posted on 'Racketaholic' thread about the V Core T97 310g, asking for general feedback compared to X Pro & Blade!!

    That stick randomly grabbed my interest somehow just over past day or so.....
    Is the X Pro way better or Yonex worth looking into??

    Just got my new X Pro from TW TODAY after demo last week!!

    I have a real problem & need professional help
     
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  9. McLovin

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    Checkout my 'Demo Days' thread: http://tt.tennis-warehouse.com/showthread.php?t=455998

    And yes, we all need professional help...
     
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    Anyone thinks the new PJ looks rather **** poor compared to the older PJ?

    Think I gotta start stocking up on the Xforce, before the new range is in.
     
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  11. McLovin

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    Yeah, they jury's still out on the new PJ. I'd like to see it in person first.

    As far as stocking up...you can always wait until the new line is released & then pickup the old ones at a discount. Speaking of which, if these are for sale in Europe, why not in the US yet? What are they waiting for?
     
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    The BX2 is allready up for sale in germany. (use google)
    I emailed pacific asking about availability. Apparently the line is being distributed to tennis shops around europe. Because most **********s stock up on new lines of rackets in august september, alot of shops still have stock of the BX1 line and are slowly introducing the BX2 line.
    I asked about the major difference and these are the biggest changes:
    New basalt gives 30% more strength. They fortified the frame at different places to increase stiffness at certain areas, better dampening, control and feel even though the weight stays the same.
     
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  13. Nextman916

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    What are you talking about? The only difference I see is the super slight paint change in the throat area on the x logo...which actually compliments the shape more...
     
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  14. syke

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    Different strokes
     
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  15. Nextman916

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    :rolleyes: Besides the minor throat change I noted, please elaborate.

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  16. syke

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    There's nothing to elaborate... it's too black at the throat area... IMO, it does not complement the shape of the racquet.
     
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  17. Nextman916

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    Right... well no matter how slight a change, since this is TT we have to respect anal fixations as well!
     
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    I think the black throat looks better (shrugs). Please, please let this racket be stiffer like the older ceramic versions of the Pro 1. This is like one of the only rackets I'm looking forward to.
     
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    That's a shame. It'll probably barely play different than the current version, if different at all with specs that close.
     
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    Any word on when TW will be stocking the B2X line?... the bags are already up.
     
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    I really like the X Force Pro..., but the newer version is only the cosmetic upgrade like the Volkl Power Bridge? Maybe there is no need for any improvement since the Fischer technology is well-received? I was hoping for a thinner straight beam...
     
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    I've been wondering that myself for a while. Last I heard was 'early 2014'. Whether that is January for February, I have no clue.

    Have you tried the X Feel Pro? That's a 20mm straight beam. Yes, its a 95 and not a 98, but I doubt they'll bring back the Pro Tour.
     
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    I haven't tried the X Feel Pro. I should actually. I came across the X Force Pro by accident because I didn't know much about the Pacific racquets. Love it, though!

    Have you played with X Feel Pro? Have you also played with X Force Pro? Anyone here has played with both? I would love to hear some comparisons.
     
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  26. McLovin

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    I've used the X Force Pro for the last 3 years (minus a 4 month stint w/ the Yonex VCORE Tour 97). Prior to the X Force Pro, I used the X Feel Pro's predecessor, the M Comp 95 for 4 years. IMO, here's the main differences:

    1 - M Comp 95 / X Feel Pro is lower powered than the X Force Pro. Not a lot, but enough for you to feel the difference.

    2 - While they weigh the same (320g) and have the same swingweight (320) the X Feel Pro feels slightly heavier. I believe this is due to it being a bit more head heavy (6pts HL vs 8pts HL).

    3 - The X Force Pro feels a bit more crisp. Odd as the specs have the X Feel Pro at 61RA and the X Force Pro at 60RA, but that was just my impression. Maybe the X Force Pro is stiffer in the upper hoop.

    When I switched, the big thing for me to get used to was the beam thickness. The X Force Pro is my first tapered beam since college (20+ years ago), when I used the Prince CTS Blast. Everything since has been straight 22mm or less. I loved the M Comp 95 and really had no intention of changing frames for a long time.

    So, the obvious question is 'why did you switch?'. Well, Fischer had stopped making the M Comp 95, and I was having a hard time finding grommets (the M Comp 95 was known for bad grommets). Pacific had already taken over and released the X Force Pro, but there was no word on whether they would release a copy of the M Comp 95, so I had to make a decision. After demoing frames, I settled on the X Force Pro, and 6 months later...the X Feel Pro came out.

    I demoed it, and considered going back, but by that time I had adjusted to the X Force Pro and the 98sq in headsize. Now I'm locked in and will probably not change for another 4 years (famous last words...).
     
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    Thanks for the info. Though I love the X Force Pro, I'm totally curious (*and will probably get one... can't help it when I have an interest...) about the X Feel Pro.

    The comparison was awesome. Thanks again.
     
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  28. Backhanded Compliment

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    The X Feel Pro 95 is a special racket but demanding. If you have a weak backhand side I wouldnt consider it... it is a shotmaker's frame because of the accuracy. It takes a full stroke but it works well with low tension full poly... still volleys well even with those strings. If you dont move your feet much think about the X Force pro, it does a little more work for you...

    It has improved my backhand return game and my serving over the Head Ig Prestige MP. I have an M Comp 95 too and the X Feel pro is an improvement. It feels solider but still super comfortable and has even more spin potential being just a tad stiffer than the Fischer.

    Overall I see the X Feel Pro 95 as a reasonable alternative for those of us who might want the Head PT 630 in a 16x19 drill pattern and cant justify the auction prices. Added plus, Pacific X Feel Pros have Fischer no tolerance technology so you can have nicely matched sticks. Frankly, I need another one but I'll put a leather grip on it. Trying to decide on the new cosmetic or not, I like the black throat area but the Black and white "skunk" color scheme works for me. Simple, and it makes everyone who thinks you are using a pure drive from a distance reevaluate the type of player they are facing.

    I like Pacific's no bull approach.
     
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    Thanks for the info. I do move around the court quite a bit , and my backhand is more consistent (but with less top.spin). Maybe the X Feel Pro will suit my style better. Can't wait.to try it out.
     
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    The X feel pro 95 is very good for heavy topspin and slices really well too. Good for flattening out shots as well. Where it is demanding is you have to hit a "driving" slice (not just a stab, that will just go into the net every time) . Great for hitting edberg-esque backhands and it seems to have similar qualities to a closed pattern for flatter shots while giving the advantages of an open pattern. It improved my forehand over the Head IGPMP too. Basically a really nice frame for an aggressive all court player 4.5+.
     
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  31. Chotobaka

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    There are already longtime Fischer/Pacific designs with thinner beams. One of the key points behind the Pro No 1/X-Force feel is the way the beam width is thicker at the top and gradually tapers down to 20mm at the throat. This is not going to change so long as this model is still in production -- which will probably be forever. The layup may change just a bit over different generations, but the design stays the same. Next to the Yellow/Green M-Speed's the Pacific's are my favorites, including comparison to the very last Fischer Black Granite. The differences in feel are very subtle and anything from this family are on my short list. No big changes are a good thing.
     
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    I'm new to the Pacific/Fischer racquets, but I fell in love with it by the second hitting session with the X Force Pro. Had to get used to the weight a little. Such a plush felling racquet that has everything from comfort, power and precision. I just like the looks of the straight beamed racquets better and was hoping that something like the X Force Pro with the straight beam would come out. But I am totally intrigued by the Feel Pro. I just love the feel when the Force Pro makes the contact with the ball. Maybe the Feel Pro will give me the less pop than the Force Pro but will give me more of the awesome feel when making the solid contact.
     
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    Finally got the X Feel Pro. Definitely a different racquet than the X Force Pro, but it's a sweet stick. I'm currently playing more with the IG Prestige Mid and Midplus, but the Pacific racquets are just as nice. I think the overall feel and the quality of the racquet may even surpass the IG Prestiges. It's kind of too bad that we might not get to demo the newer versions, but the current versions really don't need any upgrades, imo. I guess the Pacific racquets do not have the big enough following here in the U.S. I thought there would be more Fischer aficionados demanding the new releases. I'm quite impressed with the Pacific racquets. Has anyone tried the X Fast Pro racquet?
     
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  37. McLovin

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    See this thread:
    I had one for a demo last spring. I believe it was their attempt at a 'Pure Drive' clone, and in that, I think they succeeded. However...I'm not a fan of the Pure Drive, so I wasn't too impressed w/ the X Fast Pro.
     
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    this is no good. this basalt material is too heavy and clumsy. and it makes racket just very stiff and give you are issues. this is what I found when I tried it
     
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    Thank you for the info. I briefly played with the Pure Drive and did not like it at all. It felt like I was hitting with a club. Would love to hit with the newer version of the X Feel Pro and The X force Pro..., but I guess we are out of luck... :?
     
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    Well, only for the short term. Don't know if you clicked on the link, but I asked Brittany yesterday via that thread, and she said they will be carrying the BX2 line, they just do not know when it will be available.
     
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    Good news!!! The only thing I saw was that TW didn't have any plans in selling the new Pacific racquets. Can't wait to demo the new ones.
     
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  42. Chotobaka

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    The layup in the current racquets is graphite/basalt, as it is in the new ones. So, in your infinite wisdom, are you saying the current Pacific racquets are stiff and give you arm issues? Child, please.
     
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    I dont' know. It was very bad. Very stiff and No power, very weird. and string pattern was so dense, it was impossible to generate topspin with. good for flat ball hitting
     
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    The X feel 95 really requires you to bring your own power... its great if you bring your own boom. I found it to be very spinny actually.

    Good that the B2X is coming... I need to get another X feel95 but want to decide between the new one and the model I already have.
     
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    Do you actually play tennis? You're reviews are always so vague. As if you read what other people wrote and reiterate it in your own, child-like, way.
     
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    Cos he is Fedace...

    Just ignore...
     
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    of course I tried it. I am giving my own feelings on it. Actually if you read other folk's review, they disagree with me. many people thought it was easy to generate spin with this frame, where as I did not.
     
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    Anyone can make bald assertions on how something plays over an internet forum. Please use more detail.
     
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  49. McLovin

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    This. I used its predecessor, the Fischer M-Comp 95 for ~ 3 years. With the exception of the colors, it was one of the best frames I've ever used. I always felt if I could keep the ball within the sidelines, I'd never miss.

    I think I've posted this before, but by the time Pacific released the X Feel Pro, I had already moved on to the X Force Pro, and going down to 95 from 98 seemed like a step backwards. However, when they finally release the BX2 version in the US I'll give it a swing, alongside the new VCORE Tour 'G', and see if there's a reason to switch. If not, then I'll pickup some BX2 X Force Pros and wait another 3 years...
     
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  50. McLovin

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    So a few weeks ago I sent an e-mail to Pacific (usainfo@pacific.com) asking about their BX2 US release date. I had thought my e-mail went into the ether somewhere, never to be seen again, but last night there was finally a reply.

    Essentially, the frames are clearing Customs this week, and they are shooting for an early April release, although nothing is set in stone.
     

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