Pacific Classic 1.25 x MSV Co-Focus 1.18

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  1. lcalamar

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    Tension for 85" head

    OK - I'll do what I prefer... I'll go w/ 52-49.

    Just wasn't sure if a smaller head like this would have any special requirements?
     
  2. Say Chi Sin Lo

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    The general logic is to string lower tension in smaller heads because there's less length to facilitate the strings' trampoline effect.

    For example, 55lbs in 90 square inch and below would feel stiffer than 55lbs in 90 square inch and above frames.

    But really, there's no right or wrong answer.
     
  3. souledge

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    Anyone have another suggestion for a poly cross besides cofocus? I wasn't super impressed with it in an 18x20 racket (PT630) like I am with full poly in my open pattern rackets.
     
  4. colowhisper

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    I play the IGPMP and like Mosquito Bite as cross for gut better than CoFocus.
     
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    yonex Poly Tour Pro 1.20
    Signum Poly Pro Plasma 1.18
    Alu Power 16L
    Genesis Black Magic 17 Ga
     
  6. stringertom

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    Signum Pro Tornado textured geometric poly works great as a main with multi cross, as a cross with nattie gut main or as a full-bed.
     
  7. Smasher08

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    What didn't you like about it? And what are you looking for?

    There's a lot of good strings out there, but they all do things a little differently.
     
  8. Bman610

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    Has anyone noticed a difference in playability in the different colors of cofocus?
     
  9. yangster007

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    Those, and Pro's Pro Black Force/Red Devil 1.14 mm :), super cheap and super nice.
    Topspin Cyberblue 1.20mm if you want more POP.
     
  10. souledge

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    I kept hitting the ball out with gut/ CoF, when the same shots and aggression using full poly, I can keep the ball on or near the lines.

    So....something that can tame the gut a bit more and / or add spin so that my shots land shorter.
     
  11. Nojoke

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    I've found more control in my g/p hybrids since I swapped out co-focus for tourna black zone. It also seems easier on the gut because the fraying is noticeably less.
     
  12. Smasher08

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    The only thing that will add more spin is a textured cross like heptatwist or BBR, but the tradeff is that it will saw through your mains.

    But it sounds like you don't need to swing as hard. You might want to adjust your strokes and technique.
     
  13. Smasher08

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    Interesting. I noticed that string too. Have you thought about doing an in-depth review and comparison?
     
  14. Smasher08

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    I haven't heard anything. And as a cross, I doubt there'd be any noticeable difference.
     
  15. Smasher08

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    Hold on - I hadn't really noticed that you're comparing gut poly in a 18x20 with full bed poly in open patterned rackets.

    Um . . . unless I'm mistaken, shouldn't you be comparing apples to apples?
     
  16. mrc

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    I would consider tension maintenance as #1 quality you should look for. SPPPPure is excellent and keeps tension so racquet plays better longer. I have been hitting my Tour 95 with VS mains at 56 and SPPPPure 53 and getting ~20 hours.
     
  17. souledge

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    I should, but those are the rackets I have.

    So I would need something that produces less power and more spin than the full poly string setup in order to compensate for spin differences between open and closed patterns.
     
  18. Smasher08

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    My point is that there are so many different variables among them, yet you've decided that the issue is the cross strings.

    If you want something to play just like full bed poly in an open patterned racket (momentarily ignoring variables like static weight, balance, swingweight, flex, and head size) then you should stick to full bed poly in an open patterned racket.

    In all honesty, you're probably trying to make an apple taste just like an orange!
     
  19. souledge

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    bah....all these different fruits!!!
     
  20. yangster007

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    Do you do anything to keep your natural gut main clean ???
     
  21. finalfantasy7

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    so i loved this setup last time with performaxx whispertouch 17g/co-focus 18g

    Tried this setup again but with pacific tough gut 17g/ co-focus 18g.
    put it in my main stick Head tgk 237.1 @ 52/48lbs and pro staff 85 @54/50lbs.

    So people wre describing tough gut as crispy why i bought it (as performaxx whispertouch is crispy), tough gut well at 52lbs is not crispy, its sightly firm but not as crispy as whispertouch for me,
    Ive only hit around 2 hrs with it, mainly serving - but its too powerful for me, my shots land long nearly all the time and i cant hit the ball at my normal force - which really bothers me. (Im a deep flat hitter).

    But ive never really liked a fresh string job other than whispertouch/co-focus and yonex poly tour spin, ive always preferred strings which have been used for 4+hrs.
    Next outing tomorrow, practicing some serves, gonna try and using a dampener.
     
  22. finalfantasy7

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    played again, and i was forced to use a shock absorber on my tgk, its not crispy as i would like & i should have strung it 4lbs higher on mains/crosses.
    Its still too powerful.

    same setup on my st vincent, problem with this is the poly cross doesnt snap back, it behaves like a syn gut, you have to arrange it back very often.

    my friend told me that - poly dont work on a st vincent, stating the same problem as i had---- anyone know why
     
  23. Smasher08

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    Putting our setup into a friend's GOAT Staff:

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  24. yangster007

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    Those gold stripes make me cry :shock:
     
  25. Smasher08

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    The PJ is actually quite beautiful in person! And the weight and balance feel almost perfect.

    Sigh.
     
  26. taurussable

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    it is a long time: just checking if the co-focus 1.18 is still the preferred cross for natural gut?
     
  27. Mazilla2219

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    I recently tried Gosen OG 17g/CoF 1.18 53#/48# and it plays awesome. I was hitting so much topspin that I didn't even know how the shots were landing in. I did notice a lot of notching on the syn gut though.

    I have 2 sets of Pacific Classic on order 16L and 17g. I'm going to try two separate setups in my V1 OS with PC 16L/CoF 1.18 and PC 17g/Solinco Outlast 1.20.

    Any additional advice regarding the open string pattern compared to the 18x20 that you have smasher?
     
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    The new 2014 Pro Staff paintjob is so unpopular, Wilson already put them on sale less than 10 months after introduction. I have the PS 95 2014 version and I gotta say the gold stripes are :evil:
     
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    I'm about to try out Gosen OGSM 16/Solinco Outlast 17 at 50/46 lbs. Good to know OGSM/CoFocus worked well for you, I hope OGSM/Outlast will work well for me too :)

    Gut is too expensive in Australia ($80 for a set of Babolat VS Team :shock: $50 for Pacific Classic), so I'm hoping my poor man's hybrid will be decent.

    I thought it's because of Federer ditching the PS90?
     
  30. yangster007

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    Not only the PS90 that Federer ditched, but all Pro Staff racquets (95, 95s, 100, 100LS) are on sale.
     
  31. Say Chi Sin Lo

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    Stop stealing my racquets? :twisted:

    Anyway, anyone noticed Pacific Classic is now up to $32.xx now? That's a 10% price increase... :cry:
     
  32. SteveI

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    Hello Mazilla2219:

    I have just obtained 5 sets of the CoF 1.23 in Black and have a reel of the Gosen OG 17 here. I have always been a poly hybrid guy but with poly in the mains. I would be using a 16 x 19 100 sq in head frame and have modern strokes. Any ideas on tensions of a OG 17 / CoF 1.23 hybrid? Is there much string movement in the mains?

    Thanks so much...

    Steve
     
  33. lcalamar

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    I'm a long time user of Pac Gut (52#) and CoFOcus (49#) in my Volkl O8. I really have no reason to change... (I'll vary the tension from time to time - but mostly this works)

    However - I've been wondering how a full gut would play compared to the hybrid? What tension would I try pure gut at? (assuming higher than 52#)?

    I hate to try just because of the cost - what if I really like it???

    Thanks
     
  34. finalfantasy7

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    ive still got this setup from last yr when nottingham open was on, was strung at 52/55lbs on my tgk237.1/pc600, now they both around 38lbs-on racquetTune, but yet so playable.

    Has anyone here using the setup but has added silicone spray or wax? if so did it feel
     
  35. lcalamar

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    I've been using CoFocus 1.18 with Pac Gut Classic 16L.

    I'm now switching to a 1.27 CoFocus as I believe the 1.18 is cutting into the gut - and causing 2 issues:
    - reducing the durability of the gut
    - little string movement... the CF seems to be embedding itself into the gut and it doesn't move at all.

    I'll see what happens when I switch to 1.27... keeping tension at 52/48.
     
  36. lcalamar

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    I've also moved from Pac Gut to Tonic+

    No longer having issues with the thinner poly affecting the durability of the gut.

    The Tonic+ is easier to string and has overall better playability and is more durable than the Pac Gut Classic.
     
  37. Say Chi Sin Lo

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    Why did you switch to the Tonic+? How do they compare to the Pacific Classic?

    Also, I switched to a higher gauge CoF too for the same reason, the 1.18 was cutting into my mains.
     
  38. lcalamar

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    The pac gut gut was fraying almost immediately Also, I am not having the issue with the 1.18 cutting into the tonic+.

    Tonic+ is also easier to string.

    I think it plays better also.
     

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