Paintjob Story On Espn (2004)

Discussion in 'Pros' Racquets and Gear' started by tennisphotog, Aug 8, 2005.

  1. maruzo

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    microgel extreme mp is a solid racket. a little head light but i fixed it with 2 strips of lead tape at 2 oclock and 10 oclock.

    Now it's super stable and my shots are consistent throughout the match.

    yea!
     
  2. maruzo

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    Speaking of paint jobs. Could Fed still be using the old prostaff 6.1 painted with the BLX's design?

    The 2 sticks do look strikingly similar...
     
  3. BreakPoint

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    What "old prostaff 6.1" are you referring to? I don't know of the existence of such a racquet.
     
  4. maruzo

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    Fed started his pro career using the same stick that Pete used. The pro staff 6.0.

    LOL not 6.1.

    Thanks for the smartass reply.
     
  5. vsbabolat

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    No, Federer is NOT still using the Pro Staff 6.0 85. He did indeed move on to the 6.1 Tour 90. If you do a search you find many photos of Federer's actual racquet that one poster named Fabfed actually owns and was confirmed by one of Federer's stringers.
     
  6. sixone90

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    He never said it was, he just said Federer started his pro career with the PS85
     
  7. DannyJK

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    Id love to say this to all these liein *** pro's...

    Do you know what a Chazzer is, Frank? It's a pig that don't fly straight.

    on a seperate note, what is meant by the racquet layup?
     
  8. BreakPoint

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    No, he didn't just say that. He suggested that Federer is still using a PS 6.0 85 but with the BLX90 paintjob:
     
  9. TopFH

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    Isn't Fed using a customized off-the-shelves K90?
     
  10. gloumar

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    http://www.tennis-warehouse.com/Reviews/WT90/WT90Review.html
    The original Pro Staff Tour 90 is the basic mold of fed's racket, as you could read in other topics.

    It never changed since 1990's i guess. All Ncode Kfactor and BLX since are actually PJs.
     
  11. vsbabolat

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    The Pro Staff Tour 90 only came out in 2003 for the consumer. While Federer has been using the Tour 90 since May of 2002.
     
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  12. serchflores

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    Does someone know where can I get a paintjob for my Wilson rackets??
     
  13. El Diablo

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    ^^ Wilson has a factory in Shanghai.
     
  14. lbjames23

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    Ironic enough, Federer s been using made in China racquets his entire career and he s the winner of 16 majors and 19 master 1000s in counting !
    I know many jokes like you still use/ have used chn junks and u hate those racquets so badly for where they came from.
     
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  15. lbjames23

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    as a matter of fact, all the new head SPEEDs, even the radical pros are real junks rather than players racquets. Should ve moved those to walmart toys sector.
     
  16. GoSurfBoy

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    Just out of curiosity, I was re-reading some of this old post, and I found what you spoke of, Magnut....and that this certainly doesn't look like any ProStaff/St. Vincent I've ever seen - and I have 2 sitting here next to me.

    The thickness and sharper edges kind of reminded me of Head's Arthur Ashe 'Competition' frame with the aluminum skin on the face. Just sort of interesting.

    I was talking to an older Swedish ex-ATP tour guy a month or so ago, and he told me about Borg's 'Bancroft' rackets were just Donnays, sent to Bancroft for paint and decals, as Bancroft had a US/Japan contract for Borg, but no way would Borg use the Bancroft frame, perhaps simply because he would HAVE to change a frame to play the US Open, etc., which would be an absurd expectation from any pro.

    The shot below is from the 99' Wimbledon final, the "broken string closeup" Magnut mentions seeing in Post #140.

    [​IMG]
     
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  17. nickskep

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    I agree with the opposition on the matter of racquet paint jobs. It is a deceiving practice, it is false advertising, it is unethical, and its plain disgusting. I do not like being treated like a child, I want to be treated like a valued customer.
     
  18. bigant2984

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    what he said !
     
  19. Drrjjj

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    thanks for posting this, it was an interesting article
     
  20. henryshli

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    I do think sometimes that the distributors are also tricked by the manufacturers.

    Manufacturers are very careful with their wording e.g. they don't explicitly say Andy Murray is using such and such model. But by the time the distributors write their racket descriptions players will be directly linked to a racket, like Chinese whispers
     
  21. gplracer

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    I agree too!
     
  22. safinator

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    I dunno know....on one side it is a deceiving practice, but on the other hand the people who buy sticks only with the Pro using it in their mind don´t really care that these are different, as long as they look alike....
    You know, in the shop I used to work, 99% of the customers used to come and just ask for the Nadal´s stick, for Moya´s stick without even thinking if it is adecuate for their level or not....So I don´t think these people would care, for they only think about the appearance.
    Us, who chose the raquets on the basis of their specs don´t look at the pro´s using them anyway - we know what we want....
    So I don´t think it is such a horrible practice as depicted...
     
  23. Bobby Jr

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    Are you also happy for your racquets to cost three or more times what they do now? Because raising the quality and specs to the level pros want would entail that - if not more.

    Frames are made the way they are for customers, not pros - they have multiple models to cater to the different groups of course but they need to make these things really cheaply - esp considering the huge increases in marketing costs over the years and increased competition from newly credible entrants (Babolat etc). But the price of the frames themselves has stayed roughly the same for two decades - give or take 20%. That's why.

    Well, that and they know 99% of racquet buyers simply couldn't tell the difference between them. We've even seen some of the top pros use off-the-shelf frames for many, many years - Federer for one when he used the PS85, Courier, Sampras even - he just liked the St Vincent model and didn't want to worry about consistency of feel/characteristics... they weren't custom frames at all.
     
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  24. nickskep

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    The pros can customize their racquets all they want, this does not bother me one bit. I rather know for example Murray is really using the Head IG Radical Pro but just a tweaked version of it. The problem I have with racquet paint jobs for me is that I see similarities in some part of the pros' game to mine, for instance an eastern forehand or swing style and I want to emulate their style of play. So if I have a similar forehand to Murray I would want to buy his racquet because it suits my game but only to find out that Murray is not really using that racquet. I agree with you on the fact that prices would be much higher if companies were selling identical racquets as used by the pros. Maybe I am just a noob that doesn't know any better.
     
  25. gplracer

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    They can come out with the pro version and the regular version. Then consumers can choose. The racket companies do this to sell more rackets. Pros do not want to change every year, but the racket companies want to create a consumer desire to change rackets each year. It is false advertising. How can anyone support this is beyond me. It is dishonest. It is like the Wilson Steam. No pro plays with that. The ones who have a steam paint job have rackets with a PWS. You can see it plan as day on tv. The steam does not have a PWS.
     
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  26. Larrysümmers

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    simple solution, quit buying the new model?
     
  27. nickskep

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    I totally agree.
     
  28. Anton

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    I think this is a plain case of false advertisement.

    Clearly companies advertise their rackets by contracting players play with them and clearly they intentionally misrepresent actual rackets being used by painting them to look like other rackets.
     
  29. millicurie999

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    I think most of us here are under no illusion in thinking that if we play with the pro stocks, we will play like the pros. We may or may not want the pro stock out of curiosity.

    However, that's no even the point. The main issue is that a racquet company misleads the public into thinking that a specific pro is using a specific racquet but that in fact, he/she is not. That's clearly false advertising.
     
  30. mchjhn

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    agreed! does anyone really think the new racquet "technology" makes a difference? whats the difference between ncode, kfactor, and blx? nothing, its all graphic, with a new "tech" thrown in, plus a new paint job. then, you add on top that the pros don't actually play with it.

    stop being a sucker for the racquet companies gimmicks
     
  31. safinator

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    I doubt it would work, for even the "consumer pro models" are very hard to sell already, and therefore they do not have a very wide public appeal, and the "real pro models" would not change much, for their price would scare off the curious people...

    Yeah, I know most of us here are using serious staff like Prestiges and BLX90's, but 90% of the recreational players do not visit this forum, and do not care so much about playing with the super-real pro stick.....
    I mean, yes, maybe people who are frecuent visitors at this forum and such would buy those sticks, but who else?
     
  32. big_bill

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    More greed and corruption in pursuit of the almighty dollar...what else is new? Unfortunately I'm pretty sure TW endorses this practice as well.
     

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