Paleo Diet Experiences?

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  1. GuyClinch

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    Something called c reactive protein is considered a measure of inflammation and correlated strongly with heart attacks. Triglycerides are another indicator - and correlated with excessive carbohydrate consumption..

    Plenty of people now think chloresterol got a bum rap - and it matters alot what molecule its attached to. Its actually a precursor for testosterone - so its not a bad thing to have in your body. You just want to have alot of the good ones - and not that bad.

    Companies like Cheerios make alot of money pedalling outdated science IMHO. I hesitate to go into this because its not really necessary. With nutrition you can just test if yourself. Go Paleo - see if you lose weight. Get your blood work up at your next physical - and bam you will know how you are doing.

    You don't have to argue theory with people all day..
     
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    I thought about things and you guys always say snide stuff. Once again, your post count reference for example and questioning my age. It just gets old to read guys with kids who dont care about being lean talking down to people that do. You guys always antagonize so don't act all shocked when I say something back.

    I was kidding about the game..I'm just giving you a point of reference.I have people who know their stuff that I talk to about health and diet, and I dont go into things blindly. I also respect that you have an athletic background at a good school as well.

    R2 is light hearted but also a guy who also needs to grow up if you want to call me out for the same thing. You just won't admit it because he is your Ebud.I dont feel like dealing with the guys snide comments every time we have a discussion on here and id rather hear from him in private about it. I don't think that's an extreme or immature thing to say.

    GuyClinch good post.
     
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    i usually state that i have a medical condition and severely allergic to these and that 'doctor' has advised not to eat them.

    invoking of doctor usually suffices as people down there still regard them as healing demi-gods with special powers.

    i ate on an average two meals a day - chicken, mutton, eggs, usual veg dishes, some fruits, raw coconut. i think india is where you can get tastiest of primal meals.
     
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    totally agree on the doctor part. Never tell people you chose to do something.

    Anyway, is the Paleo diet a non-veg diet mainly ?
     
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    A friend of mine follows a rule of his own and does very well with it, though it increases his monetary expenditures for food.

    "Never consume anything that comes in a box, a bag, or a can."
     
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    No. Its a no grain diet...and a lower fruit diet. The theory is that many of things we eat are recent additions to our diet.

    Back in the Paleolithic era we tended to either binge on fresh kill - or eat a some leafy greens along with some berries and perhaps nuts. Fruits were much less sweet then they are now - and sugar was not really readily available. Berries seem to be the Paleo fruit of choice as I guess they haven't changed as much.

    Because we evolved on such a diet the thinking is that our body will function better on such a diet. Whether it does or not is something you can check out yourself - as I said earlier.
     
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    Agree. Or at least turn your diet in this direction. Cut down on the processed foods and sugar. Up your greens and protein.
    Where I am in doubt is the fat. Of course it is good to get your omega 3 / fish oils. But the paleo diet seems to say that you can just let go with saturated fats, etc. So far I am staying a bit moderate with this, although it is sort of tempting to just gulb down the bacon etc.
     
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    It can be in principle vegetarian (you can eat just vegetables, berries and nuts). However, it would be
    a/ difficult to follow (satiety issues)
    b/ sub-optimal from nutrients perspective (you need to graze on a wide variety of foods to get close to what you could get from a simple meat-based diet)
     
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    We Mediterraneans always seemed to be fine with our Mediterranean diet, very high in fats ...

    actually there was very few cases of heart attacks and diabetes on population, it was just until the world got more global and get influenced a lot from the american diet, processed foods etc that we are seeing more obesity, diabetes, etc.
     
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    The Med diet is high in fats from olive oil, but not high in animal fats.
     
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    no its not.

    olive oil is one of the sources of fat... but its high in animal fats too.

    Cow, Pork (a lot of pork), fish high in fats too ... and so on ... olive oil of course is high on the list too since everything is cooked with olive oil, from the stews, to cozidos, etc
     
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    Paleo diet doesn't allow for unlimited amounts of fat. It suggests lean meats from pastured/grass fed sources. It allows lean meats, fish, shellfish, fruits and vegetables, nuts and seeds. Fatty meats are on the not allowed list. Here's a couple of links of the complete food list allowed and not allowed if you are interested.

    http://altmed.creighton.edu/Paleodiet/Foodlist.html
    http://www.paleodietfoodlist.net/paleo-diet-food-list/#Allowed Foods

    Its a very healthy diet, but also quite restricted. They say you don't have to count calories on this diet, but they also say to limit fruit and nut consumption if you are trying to lose weight, and they limit egg consumption as well. Its ad libitum style, they say you don't have to count calories, but they are just banking on the idea that with food choices limited to low calorie density foods you won't eat excessive calories, which is probably true in most cases if you adhere to the plan.

    So it really just comes down to do you want to severely restrict food choices or not. For me, I can't do it. I refuse to follow any diet that won't allow sweet potatoes which are the best tasting non meat food ever. I need much more variety than this diet allows. Paleo for athletes is a bit more lenient but it is still strict with carb timing, low glycemic carbs pre WO and some higher GI carbs post WO.

    Paleo diet is a great diet though if you can do it. Its hard to argue that a diet that puts emphasis on food quality and encourages so many fruits and vegetables is not good, its just very limited so it may not be for everybody.
     
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    Ok thanks. I have done most of my reading on paleo on Mark Sissons page, and he is quite tolerant on fats, I would say.
     
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    The Primal diet (espoused by Mark) is slightly more inclusive than Paleo. So sweet potatoes are OK.

    Good thing about that site is that they have a well participated forum and loads of recipes.
     
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    Just got a very interesting book recommended to me by someone in the fitness industry I respect quite a bit. I'd heard of the book before, finally ordered it. I'm very early in reading it, but it would seem to be very much in line with recommendations from folks like the Weston Price Foundation, who absolutely recommend eating fatty meats like organ meats, eating lots of butter, consuming raw milk, etc...

    It's called "Deep Nutrition". Just passing it on.

    FYI, I started experimenting with raw milk about 4 months ago and so far am digging it. Can't drink "regular" pasteurized milk found in stores, I exhibit all the signs of lactose intolerance. But when I drink raw milk with all the enzymes needed to digest the lactose, no issues at all. Wish it wasn't so difficult to get.
     
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    That seems quite interesting! Thank you for the share!

    -Fuji
     
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    Yeah Paleo diets can vary some.... i am not sure we know what 'strict paleo' is.

    I'd argue that leaner meats is probably not Paleo like because people back then didn't have the luxury to skip any part of the animal - and most animals aren't that lean.

    The basic idea of grass fed/wild meat/fish - unlimited vegetables - low sugar fruits is though a pretty good diet and fairly hard to maintain no doubt even if its calorie unrestricted.

    The basic idea that we didn't have access to alot of grains and sugars and therefore our body doesn't process these things in a healthy manner is pretty interesting I think..

    It's a homeostatis theory which is really not the way modern people think about nutrition - but I for one think there is some truth to it.
     
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    I find it very interesting too. And can attest to that starches, sugars, tire me out, fatigue me, probably due to the bloodsugar rollercoaster they create. And yes, its a challenge to maintain a non sugar and grain diet in real life today. But at least it is good to be aware of the mechanisms both towards weight and well being.
     
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    Let me get this straight. Because you eat more meat and fewer grains and sugars, you are living like a "caveman"? And need to eat a "caveman diet"?

    Jesus Christ

    I suppose because you ride a Harley you are now a Hell's Angel.

    It must be fun marketing stupid **** to lazy "intelligent" desk jockey's.

    Anyone ever tried exercising regularly and eating balanced meals and snacks in moderation? Is that type of thing simply out of fashion? Because it makes a hell of a lot of sense to me.

    Is there really a need to make everything "extreme"........."to the max"? Is everyone a phucking teenager?

    Has anyone ever realized that its (mainly) lazy, neurotic Americans that have these weird food obsessions........and are strangely enough very unhealthy? When is the last time you've heard the "magical" French or Mediterranean's (whose diets we all want to emulate) talk about / stress about this stuff ad ad nauseum?
     
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    Why do you frequent diet threads if you don't care? The guy wanted to know what we think of Paleo style diets and we are tellin him.. <g>
     
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    So am I.

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    Yeah, but you're also over-reacting and spazzing a bit.

    The "don't eat so much fattie" diet probably has no more success than a paleo-type diet, mostly because people have difficulty sticking to them.

    The paleo-type diet isn't just about losing weight. The advocates are also claiming it is good for your health. They may be right or wrong, but the fact that it is also marketable really isn't a strike against it. Some people like new and intriguing things, and it isn't surprising that someone will try to sell it as "be like a cave man." Actually, Mark Sisson does this in his Primal Blueprint book and it is mildly entertaining.
     
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    Dr. Atkins slipped on iceand died of a head injury. Atkins REQUIRES vegatables even in Induction. You are 0 for 2.
     
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    there is a lot of good info on this thread, but i find it odd that only 1 or 2 posts pertaining to the type of meat consumed. grass fed and finished beef is much much better for you than the cafo beef that you will buy in the supermarket. cows were are herbavores that were never meant to eat grains, which is why they need so much antibiotics to keep them alive. they are kept in tight quarters to give them more fat and given steroids and appetite stimulants.

    all this talk about the paleo diet being too extreme i do find pretty laughable. at my highest weight i was 240 lbs and i am only 5-10. recently my weight was around 200 lbs for 2 or more years. for the past year and a half i have been very active playing tennis 4-5 times a week, surfing, basketball and soccer to name a few other activities, but never able to drop below 200. my gf and i decided to go on the raw diet for a week. well that week turned into 2 months for me and i dropped down to 175. i have a thicker build and this is basically as low as i go. i have now transitioned to the paleo diet thing for the past month and a half and find it very easy to stay on and very enjoyable.

    i only eat meats from farms that i know. there is a farm about 2 hrs from my house and i buy all my chicken and beef from the farmers market they patron. there is also a bison farm that sells grass fed free range bison in long beach. the meat tastes much better and is better for you. i have cut out all grains and processed foods and find it very sustainable. i may not be the norm since i really do enjoy cooking and make everything from scratch, including my own mustard and bbq sauce.

    i have done a lot of research in this area since my genes want me to be a huge fatty. my family is mostly overweight with more than i can count on one hand being over 400lbs. even with all the exercise i was doing i was still 200 lbs. what i have found is that all the nutritional data is conflicting, but what is mostly will agree on is that eating processed grains and refined sugars will kill you. the data will not tell you what to eat because there are too many unkown factors.

    i like the paleo diet because it cuts out grains and refined sugars. it also allows a lot of foods and can be sustained by anyone willing to put forth some effort into cooking and preparing their own food. most americans fail at this because they dont know how to cook and dont know what good ingredients are. they are also inundated with bad and good information and think that cherios are healthy because they say whole wheat. i still find it funny when i see ppl that think they are eating healthy and i tell them to read the ingredients. a good rule to follow is if you dont know what it is then you shouldnt eat it.
     
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    I've never really checked out his site with much detail, cool to see he is including sweet potatoes. His diet seems to be pretty much along the lines of paleo for athletes, with more carb intake around training.

    I agree that you'd think paleo wouldn't really limit fat intake, but since people are far more sedentary than our paleo ancestors were they have to limit calories somewhere so they limit fatty meats, just another clever way of limiting caloric intake without actually "restricting" calories. And the idea that our paleo ancestors didn't have access to grains and sugars sure made it easier for them to adhere to their paleo diet :)

    Lyle McDonald was working on a diet with a couple other guys (I can't remember who, maybe Alan Aragon was one of them?) But one of the key aspects to the diet was determining whether you function better on carbs or on fat as your primary fuel source. They suggested the simple notion that if carbs make you feel energized you probably function better on carbs, and if they make you feel fatigued then you probably function better on fats, so Paleo or any low carb diet may be better suited to you. I think these guys are on to something with this idea and I have seen studies that support this idea.

    I don't understand why you think any diet that deviates from your "common sense and moderation" diet is going to the extreme. Someone who finds this diet or a low carb diet easy to adhere to would not feel like they are going to the extreme. You would not say to an alcoholic "just drink in moderation," they need to completely eliminate alcohol, so why is the complete elimination of foods that you can not control the intake of if they are part of your diet going to the extreme?

    Any diet you choose can be challenging to adhere to whether its as "extreme" as a ketogenic no carb diet or as moderate as a slight reduction in food intake simply because our bodies are not designed to limit food intake. We are designed to maintain weight, not lose it. This is why we have to trick our bodies into eating less through these various methods and different people have different triggers for hunger that can not always be addressed through simple moderation.
     
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    Moderation is fatal. Nothing breeds success like excess.
    - Oscar Wilde.
     
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    Yes. Back when I was more focused on a paleo/primal way of eating, I remember Sisson and Devany saying the main purpose of their way of eating was to signal our genes to express themselves properly. What exactly that meant, I do not recall.
     
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    Mark Sisson advocates a pretty sensible, non-extreme approach. He ackowledges the difficulties and temptations of being paleo/primal in the modern world. He has an 80/20 rule. If you are making the right food choices 80% of the time, you will get results.

    http://www.marksdailyapple.com/remember-the-80-20-principle/#axzz1uop3J5s4
     
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    Great quote.

    Some people, as shown here, like to act above it all and post little jokes. But as seen, their true intentions are mean spirited and petty. Glad that came out.
     
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    Well, I suppose that if you view everyone that has unhealthy eating habits as similar to alcoholics, then your solution makes sense.

    Anyway, I suspect that the best LONG TERM (life long) solution for the vast majority is going to be moderate exercise and a balanced diet.

    The idea that the (near) elimination of carbs is the "silver bullet solution" doesn't pass the "smell test" with me.

    Now, if you are just using it as (temporary) method to lose weight, then it makes sense. "Diets" (losing weight) are by definition extreme. But there would seem to be no reason why your eating habits for "day-to-day living" would need to be extreme.

    But its fine. I understand many people enjoy extreme and need to take things to the extreme to feel that they are "really trying" (go hard or go home). I just don't see day to day living as something that requires extreme measures. It just requires a bit of common sense. Maybe I'm the strange one. But I think if you would ask the often referenced French or Mediterranean's, you'd probably find that they think this American midset is pretty strange.

    Of course there is always a chance that we are talking about basically the same thing, but just coming at it from different perspectives due to different histories and life experiences. If you are simply talking about the (near) elimination of a "junk food" (fast food / boxed food / processed food) diet in favor of a "real food" diet, then I think we are pretty much in agreement. But if you really are talking about eliminating (nearly) all carbs (no matter what they are) as a life long solution to living a healthy life, then I think you are crazy.

    Well, different strokes..........
     
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    I'm not sure why some think eliminating processed crap long term would be anything other than a fabulous decision to make? Food is supposed to process in our bodies....not already be that way before we put it in our mouths.
     
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    I think you're hung-up on the idea that paleo/primal means almost no carbs. That's not true. It just means get your carbs from mostly vegetables, some fruits, and seeds/nuts. Don't get your carbs from grains, processed sugars, uncooked legumes.


    You are taking the most extreme paleo/primal view and using it to attack all forms of paleo/primal eating.
     
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    I agree with snoopy.

    I don't view the paleo approach as anti-carb. I view it as anti-eating stuff that none of our ancestors ate thousands of years ago.

    which may or may not be true. I have no idea what they really ate back then, but the science behind the idea makes sense to me. Flour and processed sugars wreak havoc with insulin levels, which lead to enzymatic changes that both predispose us to retain fat, and to weaken us metabolically.

    I know a LOT of people who lost weight and dramatically improved their health by reducing or eliminating flours and sugars from their diet. I know of no one who improved their health by eating more processed flours and sugars.
     
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    What is the source of protein in the paleo diet for a vegetarian?
     
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    He was probably talking about epigenetics - controlling the switches which can turn our genes on or off.
     
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    Yeah epigenetics:

    http://www.marksdailyapple.com/epigenetics/#axzz1usPlfdaQ


    I don't think you can be paleo and vegetarian.

    I'm no expert on this stuff. I haven't looked at the marksdailyapple website in months until today.
     
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    How extreme you are is up to you. But lowering your carb intake is a good way to loose weight. And keeping it low/moderate is a good way of keeping the weight of, in my experience. Without having to be extreme or starve. If your energy is supplied by carbs, you never get to burn fats, it is more or less that simple.
     
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    Then are you supposed to eat raw meat? Can the human body digest it (other than sushi)?
     
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    The cavemen had fire. The few hunters and gatherers who exist today probably still cook the majority of the meat that they eat.
     
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    Fair enough. This moderate approach is certainly not the way "paleo" is marketed or probably what most people have in mind when they think "paleo diet". Clearly, this moderate picture is not the one that has been painted in my mind.

    I imagine with this as with pretty much everything, "the devil is in the details". Probably two people can both be following a "paleo" diet plan, and have very dissimilar diets.

    By this new definition, I follow "paleo" somewhat myself. I certainly like to eat oatmeal in the morning. I also like to eat potatoes, beans and pasta. I eat sandwiches (bread). Certainly eat some sweets. But I also eat meat (though its not grass fed, free range, etc. Just whatever Costco sells). Fruits. Vegetables.

    I don't know, am I paleo? What the hell does paleo mean? Does anyone know?
     
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    For me it means, I acknowledge that my body wasn't designed to function optimally on grains, sugars, etc. My body was optimally designed to function when eating mostly meats, fish, vegetables, some fruits, some seeds/nuts.

    But I also recognize I live in the modern world and can't eat the way my body was optimally designed 100% of the time. But I do my best to try and eat properly most of the time.
     
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    LMAO your diet is not close to Paleo. Its VERY hard to entirely eliminate carbs. So the fact that you get SOME carbs out of nuts, fruits and vegetables on Paleo diet doesn't mean grains like oatmeal and bread and Pasta are Paleo just because you feel you have them in 'moderation.'

    Grains did not exist as a food source in the Paleolithic era - so therefore not eating GRAINS is a core part of any Paleothic diet.

    If you want to eat an occasional tuber (SWEET POTATO) that might be okay. But occasionally - like after a workout.

    Click on this to learn about carbs and Paleo:

    http://www.marksdailyapple.com/the-primal-carbohydrate-continuum/#axzz1usqOFXoh

    Of course you probably won't click on it since your interested in trolling and attacking what you feel is the new hip diet 'craze.'
     
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    What about salt? Where did the old paleo guys get salt from?
     
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    This is certainly going to be dependent on your activities and activity levels I would think. I can't think of a single reason why you wouldn't want to be consuming carbs after "cardio" type activities (tennis, running, etc).

    And from what I've read (see the Mayo Clinic stuff below), cutting carbs isn't statistically any healthier or more effective at losing weight and keeping it off than other diet methods that include carbs.

    The first step I would recommend would be to get a biometric screening. Identify problems / potential problems. I certainly wouldn't blindly switch over to paleo to fix "problems" I don't even have or am at risk of.

    http://www.ehow.com/about_5187843_biometric-screening_.html

    If I do have a high fasting glucose or high cholesterol or am overweight, I suppose I would work with a nutritionist to develop a plan to get these under control. But if I don't have problems, I really don't think I would advise adopting something like this to "fix what ain't broken".

    If I were to choose an "off the shelf" plan, I would probably opt for the "Mayo Clinic Plan". Sure, its not quite as "edgy" as being paleo, but I suspect those folks at the Mayo Clinic know a thing or two about this stuff:

    http://www.mayoclinic.com/health/mayo-clinic-diet/my01646

    http://www.mayoclinic.com/health/low-carb-diet/NU00279
     
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    Probably from eating organ meat. It's believed that organ meat (i.e. brains, liver, etc.) was more actively consumed then.
     
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    So you are against the Paleo/Primal type diet? Because the diet you've recommended is just the standard high carb/low fat diet. It is still predicated on the belief that saturated fat is going to cause heart attacks, which is something I don't believe.

    It is probably true that the Paleo/Primal (low/no grain) diet hasn't been tested in a large number study, but I have seen impressive results in the people I know who follow it, so I'm not simply willing to reject it out of hand.

    Again, I don't follow a paleo/primal diet, but I'm intrigued by it because I do eat a high saturated fat/animal protein diet and I have never shown any funny cholesterol levels or signs of heart problems. And in any case, prime cuts of meat are usually better tasting than leaner cuts and butter and cream are better than margarine and low/no-fat foods.
     
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    It is also a very important facet of paleo/primal to choose HIGH QUALITY MEAT. This means grass fed. No grain feed, no antibiotics. Anything the animal eats, you are eating too. Anything the animal is injected with, you are eating too.
     
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    Oh, I'm with you on that. I certainly like my good cuts of fatty meat and high fat foods. Those don't scare me one bit. Never have.

    But I really see no reason to get too bent out of shape about carb consumption. I find that I do eat ~50% carbs, which seems "right" to me. If not right, it certainly seems "fine".

    Again, why not just get a biometric screening and see if any of this makes any difference to you personally. For me, it doesn't. My levels are all fine. So I'm not going to be unnecessarily restrictive.

    I suppose we are all different. Perhaps some people are more sensitive to carbs and need to eat only meat, vegetables, and nuts. This could be due to genetics. This could be due to historically poor dietary habits and a "radical" approach is now needed.

    I still always feel like this is attacking the "less important" prong of the diet / exercise health solution. Personally, I feel like exercise has more of an effect than diet. But of course you should be "sensible" about both:

    http://www.thegreatcourses.com/tgc/courses/course_detail.aspx?cid=1960

    I'll be honest with you. I REALLY, REALLY doubt that people who run into health problems or are overweight are so because they simply eat too much pasta, rice, potatoes, bread, etc. I strongly suspect that it is most often the case that we simply have people that eat a lot of "junk food". It probably creates two problems. First, having this type of food as the base of your diet, probably creates problems on its own. Add to it the fact that these foods are very calorie dense, so you simply just eat too many calories.

    Finally I'll gamble that people having this sort of trouble don't exercise (regularly).

    I don't think a "radical" solution should be tried until you first get the "basics" in order. Start there. See what happens. If its not enough, then perhaps you need to take "radical" steps. But I don't think you can go from "crap" to "perfect" overnight. And I don't think "perfect" is necessary.

    I suspect that, if you don't eat too many calories, the normal recommendations for macro-nutrient distribution are fine for most people. 35% fat doesn't **look** to be too low fat??

    Acceptable Macronutrient Distribution Ranges for Adults (as a percentage of Calories) are as follows:

    Protein: 10-35%
    Fat: 20-35%
    Carbohydrate: 45-65%



    http://www.weightwatchers.com/util/art/index_art.aspx?tabnum=1&art_id=20921&sc=805
     
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    Yup Mayo clinic is your typical high carb/low fat diet. It's pretty much a direct result of Ancel Keys and his anti saturated fat mantra.

    Its actually relatively modern in that regard - personally I think its a nutritional dead end. Eating less of the same stuff that makes you fat isn't really a solution..

    Paleo thinks Ancel Keys was wrong - fudged his numbers - sugar and carbs were the danger foods - and fats saturated and otherwise are fine.

    These views are diametrically opposed. There is no real compromise here, IMHO. We could have theoretical debates about what is correct..

    Or you can just try out a Paleo diet - get your blood work done and see the results. I think if you follow those carb guidelines posted by Sisson you will get pretty good results. But YMMV.
     
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    If 35% of your total caloric intake is fat equates to "low fat", how high a percentage of my caloric intake should be fat? Closer to 50%? Higher than that?

    I see that is low. Should be more like 30% protein; 30% carbs; 40% fat.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paleolithic_diet

    According to certain proponents of the Paleolithic diet, practitioners should derive about 56–65% of their food energy from animal foods and 36–45% from plant foods. They recommend a diet high in protein (19–35% energy) and relatively low in carbohydrates (22–40% energy), with a fat intake (28–58% energy) similar to or higher than that found in Western diets

    So it's sort of close to "The Zone" diet. A little lower carbs and a little higher fat. And a "weird" obsession against any types of starches, grains, legumes, or dairy. And make sure that you are eating "whole foods" and grass fed beef, etc. Our ancestors certainly weren't going to Costco.

    Just don't forget to get the recommended ~60 minutes of moderately intense exercise daily (like our paleolithic ancestors). I believe I burn ~1,000 calories when I run my 10K's, so its really no small amount of exercise. And that's everyday kids. Otherwise, you aren't really very paleolithic. You're more of an "a la-cart" paleo man :)

    S. Boyd Eaton estimated that ancestral humans spent one-third of their caloric intake on physical activity (1000 kcal/day out of the total caloric intake of 3000 kcal/day), [80] and that the paleolithic lifestyle was well approximated by the WHO recommendation of the physical activity level of 1.75, or 60 minutes/day of moderate-intensity exercise.[81] L. Cordain estimated that the optimal level of physical activity is on the order of 90 kcal/kg/week (900 kcal/day for a 70 kg human.)[77]

    Ya, this sounds easy. I bet everyone will be doing this as a lifestyle for the rest of their lives.
     
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