Pancho Segura & His "Two Hand Forehand"

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  1. USS Tang

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    Pancho Segura's two hand forehand is well-known, and Jack Kramer supposedly called it the "greatest shot in tennis." Pancho could hit it flat or with spin anywhere on the court and with great disguise. But, was it really a 2HFH? The classic definition of a 2HFH puts the dominant hand below the non-dominant hand. If you look closely at the photos of panch, when Pancho swung from the right side of his body, his dominant (right) hand was above, not below, his non-dominant (left) hand. When he swung from the left side of his body, his right hand stayed on top but he let his left hand drop off the racket as it moved forward. So what Pancho was really doing was using a left-hand 2HBH on the right side and then switching to basically a right-hand 1HBH on the left side. He could do this readily because only the thumb & first two fingers of the left hand ever gripped the racket, which meant when he went to the backhand it was easy just to let his right hand do all the work. If anyone sees this set-up differently than I do, please say so.
     
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    One pic - [​IMG]
     
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    Santoro Forehand for comparison:

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    Segura hit his forehand with 2 hands but hit a regular one handed backhand--he didn't hit with 2 hands on both sides. Gene Mayer & Jan Michael Gambill also hit their 2 handed forehands with their right hands above their left like Segura. Mayer, however, hit with 2 hands on both sides after turning pro (he had a 1 handed backhand in the jrs and college) and hit his backhand with his hands in the same position (therefore crossed) so he did the reverse of what Santoro did. Gambill hit his 2 handed backhand with a standard grip with the left above the right.
     
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