Partner in crime

Discussion in 'Adult League & Tournament Talk' started by jc4.0, Sep 3, 2010.

  1. jc4.0

    jc4.0 Professional

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    I played with the usual suspects today, and one of them, we'll call him Bernard - actually his name is Bernard - is a chronic bad line caller. We don't know whether he just can't see the freaking ball or what, he's an otherwise great guy. Second set I'm partners with him, and he calls two of Bob's serves out on my return. I had to over-rule him both times because these serves were clearly in and I played the return. Being that it's a friendly game Bob agreed to just take two serves. But later, Bob hits a ball that lands within an inch of the baseline - or maybe it hit the baseline - near my feet. I wasn't sure, but Bernard immediately calls "out!". I say, I'm not sure... but he's now getting p'o'd at me for overruling him. He's getting a little red in the face, like, "OUT! It was definitely out!" I didn't see a mark and that usually indicates it hit the tape - but he seemed absolutely positive that the call was out. Before I tell you what I did, what would you have done:
    1. Over rule him again, even if it makes him angry
    2. Go along with his call, even if you're not sure it's correct
    3. Never play with this guy again
     
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  2. polski

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    I would choose 1 & 3
     
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  3. SweetH2O

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    "Usual suspects" makes it sound like they are a regular social (but maybe still somewhat competitive) hitting group. In that case, I'd go with #2. Keep it friendly and social, and know that sometimes you'll benefit from his bad calls and sometimes you won't. Not the end of the world either way. And the rest of the group seems to know what the deal is with his calls.

    If it's not a social thing that you want to keep going to, then #1 and #3 are valid too.
     
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  4. decades

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    when that happens I just quietly take him aside and say "I saw that ball good. I am sure of it"....and then get his reaction....usually if you demonstrate you have conviction he will go along with it. most times he is the only one of the 4 people on court who believes he is right. there is a way to apply subtle peer pressure from the rest of the group and the result is usually the right call.
     
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  5. Gemini

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    1 and then maybe 3...

    If he called out and then you said you weren't sure to your opponents, the benefit of doubt goes to your opponents anyway. They either win the point or depending on the circumstances the point would be replayed.

    I'd also tell him that he makes a lot of bad calls...but that's just me.
     
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  6. Mike2228

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    I tend to keep my mouth shut when a teammate is making a bad call but I tend to get lax on my opponents calls and give them the close ones to sort of even out the karma.
     
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  7. larry10s

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    1 and 3 by a large margin. you want the games to be fair i assume and its no fun if you have a chronic unable to see clearly player who gets p. o .ed when corrected.
     
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  8. LuckyR

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    I would go with #2. You didn't see the ball out and he claims he did. End of story. Yes, he has a terrible reputation, well deserved, but you have no evidence he is incorrect. Perhaps after getting overruled by his partner twice he started to call correctly.
     
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  9. Mike2228

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    If nothing else works you can always start calling him ****ty mclinescalls.
     
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  10. thejuice

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    I would go 2, 1, and then 3. Go with him one time then overrule him again. Tell him his new name is ****ty McLinecalls (hilarious Mike) and tell him you won't be playing with him again.
     
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