Pat Cash : Are Rafael Nadal Nadal and Novak Djokovic boring?

Discussion in 'General Pro Player Discussion' started by tennissportsrog, Sep 15, 2013.

  1. Wim

    Wim Guest

    The problem is that Nole isn't very popular. Many find his play a bit boring since he doesn't have any very specific mind-blowing shots.
    Rafa has his spin, Federer bh. Beautiful.
    Maybe it is something to do with the personalities? Don't know.
    http://ftw.usatoday.com/2013/09/roger-federer-rafael-nadal-serena-williams-espn-stars
     
  2. Bdarb

    Bdarb Hall of Fame

    Joined:
    Jun 20, 2012
    Messages:
    1,536
    Location:
    New England
    Djokovic is like a robot to me. His strokes are classic, and I want to like him. But he just bores me to pieces..
     
  3. Wim

    Wim Guest

    Specially sitting court side.... Even worse than on tv. The sliding he does is just an odd thing, nothing really powerful.
    Rafa Roger are much better watching live with good seats.
     
  4. Omega_7000

    Omega_7000 Hall of Fame

    Joined:
    Aug 21, 2009
    Messages:
    4,758
    I think the same way about Nadal...No variety...Only high topspin shots. That's how the game is played now...At least Novak is more aggressive between the two.

    Murray has more variety but lacks a good personality.
     
  5. Wim

    Wim Guest

    So why isn't Novak more popular? he has been number 1 for 2 years now, and people hardly know about him.
     
  6. Omega_7000

    Omega_7000 Hall of Fame

    Joined:
    Aug 21, 2009
    Messages:
    4,758

    He will be more popular when he wins more slams (or get closer to) than the ones he is chasing...His time will come...
     
  7. Wim

    Wim Guest

    He has to hurry then ;) He is only 11 months younger than Rafa.
    I bet my liver on that Andy will become far more popular than Djoker. It has just started here in UK. People love him more and more now when he shows more of his funny ant intelligent personality. He is the funniest guy in the top now for sure. And he is respected from the other players..that helps a lot.
     
  8. degrease

    degrease Rookie

    Joined:
    Oct 12, 2013
    Messages:
    218
    Slower surfaces and polyester have changed the game to wat it is today for better or worse. It is the reason the nadals djokovics and murrays have such similar styles and traits. FootSpeed and super spin are THE most successful way to play the current game.
     
  9. degrease

    degrease Rookie

    Joined:
    Oct 12, 2013
    Messages:
    218
    It is an oncourt personality thing. Fed was/is like the suarve artist. Nadal burst on scene like some red indian,sleeveless warrior machine..murray and novak dont really stir such emotions.
     
  10. tennissportsrog

    tennissportsrog Rookie

    Joined:
    Jul 10, 2011
    Messages:
    373
    Yes, Boring as hell.
     
  11. Start da Game

    Start da Game Professional

    Joined:
    Jan 14, 2010
    Messages:
    1,006
    i don't care about djokovic but pat cash can bet his arse that any slam final not involving nadal will see a drop in viewership......nadal missed the wimbledon, us open and australian championships in 2012-13......everybody including nadal's haters were missing nadal......

    what federer, murray and djokovic were doing on court wasn't sufficient to keep the fans just as interested......nadal plays a unique brand of tennis and needless to talk about his fire, hunger and magic on court......
     
  12. godtennis

    godtennis Banned

    Joined:
    Jul 9, 2015
    Messages:
    16
    Pat Cash
     
  13. Sentinel

    Sentinel Bionic Poster

    Joined:
    Jan 21, 2008
    Messages:
    31,231
    Location:
    Somewhere under the weather ;)
    Obviously compared to suresh, Nadal and Djoko (and even Feder) are certainly boring. But otherwise, i think they are very interesting.
    The comparison to the POobah is a tad unfair.

     
    vive le beau jeu ! likes this.
  14. Zoolander

    Zoolander Rookie

    Joined:
    Jun 16, 2015
    Messages:
    370
    Location:
    redneck wonderland
    Wow i could sit here and watch Sureshs badly mis-hit lollypopping groundies all day. Poetry in motion, that man amoung men .
    Like a graceful gazelle, a crouching tiger.
     
    valiant, stringertom and Sentinel like this.
  15. Sentinel

    Sentinel Bionic Poster

    Joined:
    Jan 21, 2008
    Messages:
    31,231
    Location:
    Somewhere under the weather ;)
    Welcome to the Official Suresh Tribute Thread / Club. You've earned a free life-time membership :D
    Congratulations !



    @stringertom
     
  16. zagor

    zagor Talk Tennis Guru

    Joined:
    Sep 13, 2007
    Messages:
    26,631
    Location:
    Weak era
    Is this the tenth thread you resurrected in the span of a day? Must be a long time lurker I guess.
     
  17. gut wax

    gut wax Semi-Pro

    Joined:
    Sep 1, 2014
    Messages:
    550
    . . . a lunging Walrus
     
  18. ProStaff forever

    ProStaff forever New User

    Joined:
    Jun 10, 2015
    Messages:
    96
    Location:
    KL, Malaysia
    Novak will be the dream student of every teaching coach: textbook strokes (except for that dodgy smash), immaculate food work, all court coverage and mobility, mentally solid. But world no.1? His tennis lacks soul for the entertainment of the game.
     
  19. stringertom

    stringertom G.O.A.T.

    Joined:
    Sep 10, 2010
    Messages:
    14,025
    Location:
    In a sureshsian vortex
    The Poobah has mastered crouching, just not on the tennis court hopefully!:eek:
     
    Sentinel likes this.
  20. Sentinel

    Sentinel Bionic Poster

    Joined:
    Jan 21, 2008
    Messages:
    31,231
    Location:
    Somewhere under the weather ;)
    Sometimes the "Like" button is not enough. There should be a "Loved this poast" button, too.
     
  21. Sentinel

    Sentinel Bionic Poster

    Joined:
    Jan 21, 2008
    Messages:
    31,231
    Location:
    Somewhere under the weather ;)
    zagor, do you remember, there was once a poster with God in his name, who took the forum by storm a few years back. Created a bunch of crazy threads. Got banned pretty fast. Oh YES .... GODERER. Was that it ?
     
  22. stringertom

    stringertom G.O.A.T.

    Joined:
    Sep 10, 2010
    Messages:
    14,025
    Location:
    In a sureshsian vortex
    Thank you! Tip jar is over in the corner.

    Here's a kernel that may earn a bit more...I've heard dung courts are prevalent in India; did Crouching Poobah schedule his recent pilgrimage to Chennai to assist in re-dressing those courts?:eek:
     
  23. zagor

    zagor Talk Tennis Guru

    Joined:
    Sep 13, 2007
    Messages:
    26,631
    Location:
    Weak era
    Yeah I think I remember. Regardless, it is sad to see the quality of this place being dragged down by troll accounts.
     
    Mainad likes this.
  24. morten

    morten Hall of Fame

    Joined:
    Feb 19, 2004
    Messages:
    3,352
    The artistery and cat and mouse game of strategy and using the whole court is gone. I used to have to play after watching tennis before.. Not anymore. .
     
  25. IamGroot

    IamGroot Banned

    Joined:
    Jun 20, 2015
    Messages:
    458
    Djokovic is not boring, especially when you have seen him live. His ROS is breathtaking, as is his backhand. His forehand is a monster, and his movement is jaw dropping. He has the perfect balance of aggressive and defensive. His sliding backhand is astonishing to watch.

    Nadal is boring to me. I have seen him live and I felt the same. He always plays the same way and is way too reliant on opponents UE. He rarely plays with any kind of variety, just baseline stuff but not even aggressively. His forehand is good when he unleashes it, but that's not often. His backhand is a very dull and safe shot, in fact none of his shots are anything special.

    But it just proves how subjective this is. I don't understand why anyone would find Nole or Andy dull to watch but some do, the same way Rafa fans probably don't understand the criticism of his game. Each to their own.
     
    Mainad likes this.
  26. morten

    morten Hall of Fame

    Joined:
    Feb 19, 2004
    Messages:
    3,352
    Tennis may not have lost popularity yet but i think that has to do with markering and hyped superstars like Nadal and Federer... But in my opinion the actual game is so much more one dimentional now and i dont think people in the stands enjoy the actual play as much as before. Tennis has become easier and more powerfull but less of everything else. . Like a grindfest, sort of goalkeepers in a penalty shoot out in a hit and run kind of way. In fact i even think the players get bored too.. and some of the real natural talents ala Mac and Fed may quit the sport before they get mature.. As many other have suggested i think speeding up the courts, even bring restrictions to the equipment(max 90sq.in and ban poly) is the only way to go.. Everything now favours the baseliner and kids dont learn much more.. i am afraid tennis will suffer greatly if nothing is done. .
     
  27. norcal

    norcal Hall of Fame

    Joined:
    Feb 25, 2004
    Messages:
    1,864
    Is that really Suresh? [​IMG]
     
  28. Sentinel

    Sentinel Bionic Poster

    Joined:
    Jan 21, 2008
    Messages:
    31,231
    Location:
    Somewhere under the weather ;)
    Reminds me of the 'Nadal finds Sampras et al boring, not fun' thread :D

    There were some technical and aesthetic issues. Firstly, the ball did not bounce at all. Second, the Duke and Duchess of Chennai could not take the smell. Balls shanked into the crowd created an uproar with the very conservative upper-class Brahmin crowd. The practice of hitting balls into the crowd after the game did not go too well. Spectators stampeded out of the arena to avoid them. No one signed up as ball boys.
     
    stringertom likes this.
  29. 6august

    6august Rookie

    Joined:
    Oct 7, 2014
    Messages:
    255
    But what Wawa does all the time is punching from the baseline. No tatic, no strategy... Does hitting hard mean exciting?

    If yes, F. Gonzalez is much entertaining than king Roger.
     

Share This Page