Patrick Mcenroe states Novak will finish the year #2 in the world + win another slam

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Where will Novak finish in rankings in 2011 ?

Poll closed Jan 30, 2012.
  1. #1 -- by winning another slam title

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  2. #2 -- will win another slam but will be behind in points to another #1

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  3. #3 --- will suck rest of the year and finish #3

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  1. Fedace

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    Patrick Mcenroe stated after Novak's 2nd aussie open title that Novak will finish the year #2 in the world and also will win another slam this year. lol
    then Nadal or Federer will have to win the other 2 slams to finish ahead of him. Nadal is only likely player by winning French and Wimbledon. So that leaves Federer with NO slam title this year ???
     
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    Djokovic tends to drop off towards the end of the year in level of play, so don't expect him to do that well.



    However, I do think he could be quite a surprise at Wimbledon if he can maintain this level of play that late into the season.
     
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  3. autumn_leaf

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    nadal can take the two slams and fed will just rack up all the masters.

    either way, predications are stupid in the beginning of the year. you never know what will happen to a player.
     
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    P-Mac predicted Novak's victory prior to the AO, I believe if he keeps this level of play, he can/will take over #2; I'm not sure what he's defending, but I'm sure it's less than Fed. I don't think he'll win another slam this year, maybe USO will be a decent shot.
     
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    Feds claycourt season was horrendous, he lost Halle, and doesnt have much to defend at wimby.

    Still its refreshing to see someone else win one...the fedal era is getting boring.
     
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    Federer is playing quite consistently again and has tons of points to rake up at IW and Miami, claycourt season, and the FO and Wimbledon + USO. Honestly his level is just as high as it was in 08-10, there is no sign of his game fading or anything. Djokovic is on fire now, but lets see if he can maintain this level for a while before saying anything drastic. Right now I see him remaining at #3.
     
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  7. rfm29

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    Yeah. He might take #2 for a little bit, but I don't see him being year end #2.
     
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    Actually it was Brad Gilbert doing his usual hyping up the plot line bit, and P-Mac only agreed that Djoko only had a great chance to get into the top 2, not that it was a done deal and that he would win another slam on top of that.
     
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  9. Ray Mercer

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    Djokovic is not winning Wimbledon or the French Open. He has a good shot at the US.
     
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    Djokovic got to semifinal at Wimbly last year and lost to a hot Berdych. He's got a chance at wimbly. He's made two wimbly semifinals - the same that henman achieved who was a grass specialist (!!). Also he's made two french open semifinals losing to Nadal both times.
     
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    So what? Federer is already with NO SLAM in his possession at the moment ...
     
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    I wouldn't be surprised if he wins another Major, but I won't bet on it. It's fine if he wins "only" the AO.

    However I really want him to show up like this at RG and go on a rampage. Bringing it to Nadal in the semis/final :)
     
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  13. MichaelNadal

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    I agree with this. Would have to be Us Open if he wins another.
     
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    If Nadal isn't performing up to par at the French Open (let's say that this isn't 2010 and he might get even more banged up on the road to the clay season), Djoker might have a chance. But he would definitely be a major threat at the U.S. Open this year. Hopefully he can finally bag it.
     
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    Dark days ahead ... ;)
     
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    That's why he won the Davis Cup and made finals at the USO.
     
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    "tends to" i think he said.
    But he did win a WTF some time back did he not (when everyone was injured/tired).

    Perhaps he refers to 07-08 when he was last in the WTF and won the AO, but then that was officially a fluke, so does not count.
    ;)
     
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  18. li0scc0

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    None of the above.
    Novak will not win another Major this year, but will finish #2.
     
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    People forget that between Novak's USO win against Fed and the AO win against Fed, he was defeated 3 times in a row by old Roger. Their USO match was really really close (match points for Federer) and their AO match, while a straight sets affair, was really close as well, despite Fed playing a mediocre match at best. There's no guarantee Novak will beat Fed from now on, and for all we know Novak can lose this form quickly.

    I'm pretty sure by the end of the season we will look back and see that the season was mostly dominated by Nadal and that Federer is still hanging in there at #2 for most of the season.
     
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  20. decades

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    sure it is. that's why he doesn't hold any slams right now. because he is just as good as he was 3 years ago.
     
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    Last year was an exception to the rule. His level of play tends to drop off midway through the year, after the clay season.
     
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  22. Raoul_Duke

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    Or let's put it this way ... When it was important, on two majors, USO and AO, Novak beat Federer, fair and square.

    And he could afford himself losing in those insignificant matches later on ... He had more important things to do - like win a Davis Cup.
     
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  23. Raoul_Duke

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    Not to mention some other crap people were saying 'bout Novak.

    Like he couldn't win a five-setter or like him being a choker.

    And then he beat Federer 3-2 after twice going one-set down and after saving some match points ...
     
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  24. Magnus

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    Fine, if you want to talk about slam H2H, Fed still has the advantage with a 4-3 lead in slams, so I really can't see your point. 3 USO wins + 1 AO win > 1 USO win + 2 AO wins. Simple math really.
     
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    I don't recall anyone ever stating Novak counldn't win a 5-setter unless they were completely ignorant.

    Novak's 5-set win percentage is above 70%
     
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    Wow that's pretty deluded. Fed is playing quite consistently AGAIN? Where? In Doha? Fed has not made a final in either Miami or IW since 2006, on clay he's not even supposed to play monte-carlo (even if he did, given how slow it is, I wouldn't hold my breath), he has a terrible record in Rome since 2006 as well, losing to guys like Volandri, Stepanek and Montanes. The only clay court event where he could do well is Madrid (because of how fast it is) and he's already defending a final there, so he won't gain many points no matter what. Then there's RG. Given how Fed has been struggling in best of 5 on his best surfaces recently, you really think his chances of making better than quarter or semis at RG are that high? Good luck with that theory.
    Djoko is on fire RIGHT NOW?? Really? So you're also in denial of the fact that Djokovic has beaten Fed in 2 consecutive slams on Fed's best surface? You believe that's not significant? The only event where Fed could realistically gain some points is Wimbledon and even that is not a given.
    After that, he'll have to defend his good result in Shanghai and his WTF title at 30 years old and that's gonna be anything but easy.
    I agree with PMac, it's gonna be very difficult for Fed to end the year as #2.
    Not impossible but the probability that he won't is much higher than the opposite. (+ Djokovic was in a slump for most of the year last year, with a better serve and more confidence, he could be gaining quite a few points on both hard (masters) and clay and he's capable of decent results on grass as well).
     
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    Lol, damned bandwagoners, this is 2008 all over again :lol:
     
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    Novak... the new GOAT! :mrgreen:
     
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    It's funny how it works, in tennis people only remember the last event. Since Novak won, he is the GOAT, Roger is finished and Rafael is broken down. If Novak blows cold again for a few months, and does not win anything significant, those same people proclaiming him the GOAT and new number one will be the ones putting the nails in his coffin, saying he is done.

    It happens all the time...
     
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  30. Raoul_Duke

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    No need to do maths here ... this is tennis.

    Novak currently holds one major title plus a Davis Cup. Federer holds nothing significant except World Tour finals.

    Novak beat Federer in last two grand slam semifinals, Federer in his peak.

    At this moment, Novak is better player. Period.


    Federer WAS the best in the world, no doubt about that. And he still has enough quality to lift some big trophies.

    But don't make excuses every time he loses a match. Give a credit to a guy that PLAYED/S BETTER.
     
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  31. Raoul_Duke

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    You are Talk Tennis Guru. You should remember many posters who were saying that Novak can't win 5-set matches ...
     
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  32. Semi-Pro

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    Peak huh? Ahaha if this is 'peak' Roger then how would you desribe Rogers form and results during 2004-2007?:oops::oops:

    Don't kid yourself, peak Roger is a long lost soul since 2008, sure we will always see glimpses of his 'peak' form from his prime but seldom on a consistent basis...
     
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  33. MichaelNadal

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    He does have the potential though, he probably won't use it, but he is the only one besides Federer and Nadal who could be the next great player.
     
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    When Novak is about to turn 30 and begins to lose frequently to the young guns of that time, I hope you will have the courage to say that Novak is in his "peak" form.

    Federer is a good player still, but his best years are behind him. He is turning 30, he is not the player he was at 24-25. I understand that he keeps talking to the press about how he is supposedly at his best form, but I would say that Rog is in some serious denial.

    Fed will eventually realize his limitations. :) After all, after losing to Federer in the 2001 Wimbledon, Sampras claimed that he felt that he had many great wimbledon runs left in him .... unfortunately, he never won wimbledon again.
     
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  35. Tony48

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    Novak made a complete turn around from 2010. He didn't beat a single top 10 opponent the whole year until he beat Federer at the U.S. Open. 2011? He beat 3 in a row en route to the title (No. 6 Berdych, No. 3 Federer & No. 5 Murray)
     
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    At about 4-4 in the opening set of the final, PMac says that he likes the way Murray was playing. He was digging in and making it tough for Djoker to hit winners. At that point in the match Djoker actually had less winners and more UE's than Murray.

    Darren Cahill sitting courtside chimes in, disagrees with PMac, and just nails it on the head. He said he liked Djoker's chances because he was hitting the ball so cleanly and timing it so well, that even though he had more errors, he was dictating the play. Cahill said Murray was mishitting more and leaving balls short.

    Well, we all know what happened after that. ESPN should put Darren Cahill in the booth more often as he is the only one who knows what he's talking about on that whole team.
     
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  37. FlamEnemY

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    You mean of course No. 2 Federer :)
     
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    Don't rush to coronate Djokovic as new king just yet

    http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/20...02/02/novak.djokovic/index.html#ixzz1CqnhgDWy

    Pretty much agree w/ this, though I do think he's due to make a RG final, but that title is Rafa's to lose.
     
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  39. Sharpshooter

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    LOL at that article. Rafa never had to go through Federer. Ha Fed's form last year Rafa would've whipped him in all the slams after AO, what an idiot.
     
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    Reading comprehension fail. He said he didn't agree w/ those who said Rafa didn't have to go through Fed last year.

    Many -- myself not included -- hastily cast doubt on Nadal, noting that, while he was winning the last three majors of 2010, he never had to go through Federer.
     
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  41. NadalAgassi

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    The way Federer and Nadal were both playing Nadal would have destroyed Federer at both the French and Wimbledon. The U.S Open final would have been quite competitive though, with Nadal probably still winning.
     
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    Many - myself included - were hoping that Fed would win that USO semi as we felt Rafa would have a much easier time beating Fed than Djokovic. Ah well, it still all worked out perfectly in the end. :)
     
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    Many of you guys, Federer fans, have distorted picture of your hero.

    Every time he loses, you say that he wasn't at his best. Well of course he was not! That is the primary reason for 90% of loses for every player.

    No player can play in the same form all the time, they have ups and downs. Even Federer.

    So, when Federer loses a match - that's because he didn't play well, not because his opponent was better.

    But when Federer wins, that's because he is the greatest, the most talented, invincible, g.o.a.t. etc.

    Is there any chance that some other player might have a bad day when losing to Federer.

    Maybe Djokovic wasn't at his best when he lost those matches against him.


    You don't have the same criteria for all players, it is obvious.


    So - Federer lost this time, fair and square. Give his opponent a credit and wait till their next match to get a revenge.
     
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  44. Murrayfan31

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    Federer is done winning slams. Djokovic is definitely the better player now.
     
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    No proof of Djokovic being better than Federer at US Open , last year not convincing win.
     
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    Yeah but the Australian Open furthered the gap between Fed and Djokovic in slams. Now Djokovic is clearly a better hardcourt player than Fed in slams where everyone is at their best physically.
     
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    He beat Federer in 3 sets in 2008 don't forget , no proof.
     
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    If he keeps it up, his chances of a USO will be very good as long as there is not in form Nadal or Federer.
     
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    But all Fed fans were saying he had mono. Did it come back or is Djokovic the better player now?
     
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  50. MichaelNadal

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    Agreed. I'd still take Rafa over Novak in a 5 setter though, but I like Novak's chances against Rafa in a HC masters.
     
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