Patrick Mcenroe states Novak will finish the year #2 in the world + win another slam

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Where will Novak finish in rankings in 2011 ?

Poll closed Jan 30, 2012.
  1. #1 -- by winning another slam title

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    15.8%
  2. #2 -- will win another slam but will be behind in points to another #1

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    42.1%
  3. #3 --- will suck rest of the year and finish #3

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    42.1%
  1. jamesblakefan#1

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    The point is that the bandwagonism (is that a word?) and knee-jerk reactions which go on are quite brilliant. Two weeks ago we were hearing how Nadal was unbeatable in slams and may not only win the Rafa slam but had a good shot at the calendar slam. Then Rafa loses and it's Fed's title to lose. Fed goes down and Nole steps up, now he's the guy to beat and is 'clearly' ahead of Fed and on Nadal's heels.

    I'm of the firm belief that right now we have a lot of guys that at any given time can beat anyone. You really think an in form Soderling couldn't beat Djoker at RG? Murray couldn't beat him at Wimbledon? Federer is finished? It's all knee jerk on here, people need to get perspective and remember that things change quickly in tennis.
     
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  2. Murrayfan31

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    Yep and Fed's run at number 2 is going to change soon as well. Time for the younger generation (Djokovic, then Murray) to jump ahead of Fed.
     
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  3. jamesblakefan#1

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    So even if Fed loses #2, that means he can't beat Djoker at a slam again?
     
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  4. Murrayfan31

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    Djokovic would be the favorite. But upsets can always happen.
     
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  5. jamesblakefan#1

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    Disagree. At Wimbledon Federer would always be the favorite over Djokovic, US Open I would still give the slight edge to Federer. RG is the only place where Djoker would have a slight edge over Federer.
     
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  6. Murrayfan31

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    Djokovic would definitely be the favorite at the US Open. Federer would be almost 30 years old by then. Djokovic will be in his prime. Wimbledon is the only tournament where I would put Fed over Djokovic. Since it is Fed's best surface and Djokovic's worst.
     
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  7. fundrazer

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    Basically sums up my thoughts as well. It feels like we're seeing a rerun of Fed 08 when all were claiming his time was over...he isn't quite done yet. There's also no way to know if Djoker is going to stay at his current level, he could slouch and start losing to guys like Anderson or Phillip K again.
     
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  8. jamesblakefan#1

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    Djokovic has been in his prime since 2007, it still hasn't stopped him from losing to Federer there 3 out of 4 times. We'll see, but something tells me Djoker will slump soon. Eventually the emotional high from winning DC and AO will wear off, and he will struggle like he always seems to do.
     
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  9. timeisonmyside

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    I wouldn't call 2009 and most of 2010 Djokovic's prime, as he was struggling with a major part of his game - his serve.

    I noticed that the ESPN announcers tip-toe around this when speculating as to how Nole developed his serve problems: they never mentioned Todd Martin! His worse play coincided with Martin's time coaching him.
     
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  10. Fiji

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    Nole could win the US Open this year as well.
     
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  11. ALL IN

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    He's not any less of a player than he was 3 years ago. His competition stepped it up quite a bit.
     
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  12. Tony48

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    Federer hasn't made a final since last year's Australian Open (so he missed 4 in a row). By the time he lost to Djokovic in 2008, he was on a STREAK of 10 finals.

    It may feel like 2008 but Federer definitely exactly coming off of a red hot 2010.
     
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  13. NadalAgassi

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    Federer has gone quarters-quarters-semis-semis of the last 4 slams and has lost to the likes of Baghdatis, Gulbis, and even Montanes in other tournaments. He is losing to the likes of Berdych at Wimbledon and losing back to back slam matches to Djokovic. His tennis is definitely on a fast decline downwards, one that started a long time ago and is now only accelerating.
     
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  14. NadalAgassi

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    Federer of even 3 years ago (which had already started to decline) would never lose at Wimbledon to someone like Tomas Berdych, lose in a Masters event to people like Marcos Baghdatis or Ernests Gulbis, or lose at 500 event to someone like Montanes. It just wouldnt happen. And the inevitable decline in speed, reflexes, concentration, power, which all come with age are evident when you watch him play, even on his better days. His best surface has become indoors which makes sense, the fast surface helping the older slower player without having to exert the same physical effort.
     
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  15. OrangePower

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    It's possible but unlikely IMO for Novak to win another slam this year. USO would be most likely one but I would give him maybe 25% chance of winning there.

    But he could still take #2 even without winning another slam, depending on how he does through the year and how Fed does. We might end up at the USO with the #2 ranking up for grabs.
     
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  16. veroniquem

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    Exactly because indoor, one can rely more on the serve. But even indoor, one has to remember he didn't do well in Paris (losing to Monfils). In WTF, he was somewhat lucky that Djoko was entirely focused on DC and played a dismal match in the semis and then in the final, Rafa was drained from his marathon vs Murray. It's a good thing he took advantage because that kind of favorable circumstances won't repeat every year...
     
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  17. Murrayfan31

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    And who would you put ahead of Djokovic. Fed is getting old and Nadal was super lucky in 2010 with his dream draw. Fed and Djokovic wore each other down and Rafa had Mikhail Youzhny lol
     
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  18. NadalAgassi

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    I would say there is no clear favorite for the U.S Open. Nadal is the defending Champion and obviously a huge threat like it or not, just not the clear favorite. And what a joke anyone persists in considering him a fluke hard court major champion after winning the U.S Open, Australian Open, and Olympics all on hard courts (and nearly winning the TMF on his worst surface indoors to boot). Djokovic is a big threat but hasnt won there yet so obviously also not the clear favorite. Federer will always be a big threat at the U.S Open to win, but hasnt won there since 08 now. Del Potro, as overrated as he is on this forum, if he gets back to his 09 form will be a big threat on probably his favorite surface too. And Murray is always a threat to reach and lose in the final. There are a bunch of others who have are long shots to win it all but who could be very dangerous- Soderling, Berdych, Roddick.

    There probably isnt anyone with much more than a 25% chance to win the U.S Open now. Unlike the French where Nadal is the heavy favorite for still, and Wimbledon where Nadal and perhaps also Federer are the heavy favorites still.
     
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  19. Fiji

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    That's a progression. At this rate next is maybe 2 finals in a row and then a win?

    quarters-quarters-semis-semis-finals(?)-finals(?)-win(?)
     
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  20. angiebaby

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    Agreed with this. Rafa will probably take RG/Wimby and USO is anybody's guess. Novak could do it, the hard courts are his best chances at majors, but there could also be a surprise player that's takes us all unawares and snatches it. I will say that I think Novak will have comfortable hold on the #2 ranking by year's end, even if he doesn't win another slam this year.
     
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  21. Fiji

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    I see Nadal winning his third FO/Wimbledon double this year. The USO is really harder to predict. One of Federer, Nole, Murray or even Del Potro could win at Flushing Meadows this year.
     
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