Paul Annacone vs Ivan Lendl

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Which Coach will win the Wimbledon War?

  1. Ice Stone Blood Lendl

    33.9%
  2. Tired Relaxing Annacone

    25.8%
  3. Serpent Mild Luthi

    17.7%
  4. Roger Federer

    50.0%
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  1. kishnabe

    kishnabe G.O.A.T.

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    Annacone has the experience of helping Sampras win majors. Though he hasn't stuck gold except when Federer beat Novak at RG11 and SW19 12.

    Lendl has pushed Murray past his berating barrier. Murray reacted with pushing Novak to the brink in the 12 Aussie Semifinals.

    Who do you think will give the best tactics and support that will help prevail Roger or Murray in the end!?
     
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  2. sportsfan1

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    Don't forget Luthi. Actually, nvm, it's all Mirka :)
     
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  3. Backhanded Compliment

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    Lendl is tricky, there will be surprises that we haven't anticipated...
     
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  4. OldFedIsOld

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    Annacone would probably be the better coach overall. However if they were to engage in fisticuffs Lendl would mop the floor with Annacone.
     
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  5. NADALWON

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    Not sure if Annacone helped Sampras much. I don't have the quote but I'm sure somebody does, of the conversation between Agassi and Sampras (outlined in Agassi's "Open" book) regarding how minor Annacone was to Sampras.
     
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  6. sportsfan1

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    In Sampras's bio, IIRC, he regretted letting Annacone go, and had to fix some burnt bridges to get him back?
     
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  7. BeHappy

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    http://www.raw-veganism.com/SamprasH...f_Rivalry.html

    What most impressed Agassi was how little Sampras leans on his coaches.
    (Agassi is now coached by Brad Gilbert, who helped him climb from No. 32 to No.
    1 in a little more than a year; Sampras's coach is Paul Annacone, who replaced
    Tim Gullikson seven months ago when Gullikson withdrew to battle brain cancer,
    for which he is now undergoing chemotherapy.) "Pete said, 'Regardless of what
    Brad's done for you, you're the one who has to go out there and do it,' " Agassi
    told me in the restaurant. "I said, 'I totally agree with you, but he's given me
    a lot of important insights." He said, 'Like what?' And I was like, 'Well, he's
    directed me here and directed me there, and given me a game plan.' And Pete was
    shocked to think that's what a coach does. All he knows is someone who makes
    sure his toss is on line and helps with the fundamentals on some very basic
    level. But nobody tells Pete how to play. Me, it's the opposite. I have all the
    shots, but what the hell do I do with them?"


    when I
    remind him how frequently Brad Gilbert, Agassi's notoriously gregarious coach,
    brings up the fact that Gilbert is four and four in the eight times he met
    Sampras as a player, he says, "[expletive] Brad!" He tries to point out the
    meaninglessness of the statistic. "I mean, this [expletive] guy here is 1-0
    against me," Sampras says, pointing to Annacone, who is wading in the shallow
    end with a silly grin, not quite sure whether to look proud or insulted

    Sampras has seemed to
    value his coaches more for their company than their wisdom. When Annacone, still
    wading nearby, starts expounding tennis theory, saying that a player is always
    plotting to take away the amount of time his opponent has to return a shot,
    either by hitting the ball hard or hitting it early, Sampras, without taking
    his eye off the little poolside basketball hoop he's shooting at, just says,
    "Nonsense."
     
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  8. JeMar

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    I find a little ironic that Murray brought in Lendl to win WIMBLEDON.
     
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  9. Wilander Fan

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    Not for me. Probably no one player in the history of the game has put more thought and effort into winning that tournament than Lendl. If I recall, he even missed a FO one year to prepare early. He changed his game to volley more, etc. Its actually odd he could not win it considering that he was not a bad volleyer, had a big serve and moved well. I think the problem was that he played in an era with great natural volleyers and the grass was very fast.

    However, its a much slower and different game now and I think I see more S&V at RG than Wimbledon.
     
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  10. zagor

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    Everybody played serve and volley at Wimbledon before 2002 (well aside from Agassi who was the best natural ball striker ever but he's a special case), it was the percentage play due to the way grass was.
     
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  11. NADALWON

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    There it is :D
     
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  12. PCXL-Fan

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    I would like to remind all you MEN that Federer would be nothing without Mirka. Behind every great man is a great woman. Mirka is at least 40% of the reason Federer is one of the greatest ever. So cut out the Mirka is a fat cow jokes because half of you making them are dorito eating hypocrites living in your moms basement.
     
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  13. NADALWON

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    Old wives tail.
     
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  14. kishnabe

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    Lendl brought for Murray to win US Open!
     
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  15. jaggy

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    I'd bring in Rosol
     
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  16. sandiegoman

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    Rosol on grass is a goat
     
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  17. Povl Carstensen

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    I think Annacone struck gold when Federer, after a comparatively bad run with dissapointing losses, from the fall of 11 went through a year that brought him back to nr 1.
     
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  18. martini1

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    One is coaching a guy close to the final 1/4 of his career, with 2 kids, and priorities in life shifting. One is coaching a hungry younger guy in prime.

    Can't compare at all.
     
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  19. TennisLovaLova

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    On tt boards, post a poll including Roger Federer.
    Regardless of the subject, Roger Federer wins.
    Fact.
     
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  20. Povl Carstensen

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    No, for instance in a poll of who was to win AO, Djokovic came up 1. Fact.
     
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  21. TennisLovaLova

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    Must have been a bug then
    Fed is always #1 at anything and everything
     
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  22. feisty33

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    Lendl would win. Just a way higher class of player than Paul.
     
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  23. feisty33

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    Is Paul even known for anything besides being coach of Sampras.
     
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  24. feisty33

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    I also had heard Paul and his ground game sucked which is the main reason he came in all the time.
     
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