Peak Level over Five Years

Discussion in 'Former Pro Player Talk' started by pc1, Aug 1, 2014.

  1. Dan L

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    Tilden could occasionally put on a good show until the early forties, but his heyday was the twenties.
     
  2. BeGreat

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    ughhh
    stop it already
     
  3. pc1

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    He was still pretty tremendous for a decent part of the 1930's also Dan. For example he was runner up in the French in 1930 despite perhaps serving an ace on match point against Lacoste that Cochet (the lines judge!!) called out. He also won Wimbledon that year. He won his last Pro Major in 1935 and finished second to Nusslein in his last three Pro Major finals. He won his last tournament over Nusslein in 1938.

    He also was great enough at age 41 to battle Vines fairly closely in losing 47 to 26 in their head to head World Championship tour in 1934.
     
  4. Dan L

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    Tilden was "carried" by his achievements of the 1920's and the commercial value of his name on the billboard.

    Kramer suspected that Vines did not put out a full effort against Perry, and perhaps that happened with the Tilden series, too.

    Sorry to say this, but it was all about money.

    Vines should have played against Nusslein in the 1934 tour, as Nusslein had already won the "world series" against Tilden.

    But commercially, Tilden made more sense.
     
  5. pc1

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    Dan,

    You're correct that Nusslein should have been the challenger to Vines but that wasn't the point I was trying to make. My point was that Tilden, age 41 was still a very dangerous opponent for anyone and that he was strong enough at that late age to win a decent amount against the powerful Vines.

    I doubt that Vines carried Tilden since Vines himself wrote that he was in awe of Tilden's game and that he never saw (and this statement was written in 1978 ) anyone who could do more off both sides than Tilden.
     
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  6. BobbyOne

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    pc1, Tilden did not have a matchpoint in the 1930 French final. He lost in four sets, the third and fourth clearly.
     
  7. pc1

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    My error Tilden had a match point in the 1927 French. Memory was incorrect here. I believe Tilden won 18 tournaments and as I mentioned earlier, Wimbledon. Not bad for an old man.
     
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  8. BobbyOne

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    pc1, Thanks. Yes, Tilden was very strong in 1930. I even give him a tied No.1 place with Cochet as he also reached SF of the US Championships.
     

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