Penn ATP Tour Balls ARE CRAP!!!!!

Discussion in 'Other Equipment' started by split-step, Dec 6, 2008.

  1. split-step

    split-step Professional

    Joined:
    Dec 6, 2007
    Messages:
    1,012
    I have had it with these balls. These are the Penn atp balls with 4 in a can.
    These were my balls of choice when the container looked like this:
    [​IMG]

    However, for some months now, the packaging has changed. THe lid is now golden and the quality of the balls have gone down the toilet.

    First of all, in every can there is at least one dud. WHAT AM I BUYING A 4 CAN PACK FOR IF I CAN ONLY USE 3??????

    Secondly these balls DON'T BOUNCE. I play on hardcourts for goodness sake. These balls make me feel like I am playing on slick grass.

    THe balls were never like this until they changed it.
    THEY SUCK ASS!!!
     
    #1
  2. i suck at tennis

    i suck at tennis Rookie

    Joined:
    Nov 21, 2008
    Messages:
    371
    Location:
    MS
    NOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!! I also like(d) these. I haven't hit with them in awhile only b/c I haven't been to the store in my area that sells them but this is very disappointing news
     
    #2
  3. supermario343

    supermario343 Hall of Fame

    Joined:
    Mar 16, 2008
    Messages:
    2,825
    Location:
    Chicago
    lol i never liked penn balls to begin with....i always use wilson or the slazenger wimbledon balls in the big purple can of 4
     
    #3
  4. Tofi

    Tofi Professional

    Joined:
    Oct 28, 2008
    Messages:
    918
    Location:
    England
    does this mean the HEAD balls are the same aswell??
     
    #4
  5. mikeler

    mikeler G.O.A.T.

    Joined:
    Sep 26, 2008
    Messages:
    19,816
    Location:
    Central Florida
    Try the Wilson 4 packs, they are fine for hard courts.
     
    #5
  6. Sleepstream

    Sleepstream Semi-Pro

    Joined:
    Mar 22, 2006
    Messages:
    471
    I've played with these balls recently, and they were fine.
     
    #6
  7. game set match 46 TIMES!!

    game set match 46 TIMES!! Hall of Fame

    Joined:
    Sep 18, 2008
    Messages:
    1,808
    Location:
    Reporting the score as two bagels!!
    i agree! the ball feels dead right when there from the can! and they dont even have that air when you open them! dont buy!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
     
    #7
  8. ls206

    ls206 Professional

    Joined:
    Aug 21, 2008
    Messages:
    1,138
    Location:
    UK
    Penn are such low quality... training/coaching balls have better bounce and play life.
    I too will add my warning to stay away from Penn.
     
    #8
  9. mikeler

    mikeler G.O.A.T.

    Joined:
    Sep 26, 2008
    Messages:
    19,816
    Location:
    Central Florida
    My favorite ball hard court or clay is Prince. The clay court version I can only buy online.
     
    #9
  10. Lendl

    Lendl Semi-Pro

    Joined:
    Aug 12, 2006
    Messages:
    519
    I played a travel match yesterday and used those balls. Agree, they were not good. I use these exclusively on my every day matches and recommend them highly:

    [​IMG]
     
    #10
  11. mtommer

    mtommer Hall of Fame

    Joined:
    Jun 18, 2008
    Messages:
    2,800
    I've gone through a case of the Penn ATP with the gold lid like the picture above and I never had any problems with them whatsoever. They do feel like they bounce low after first coming out of the can but within five decently hard hits they liven right up.
     
    #11
  12. J011yroger

    J011yroger G.O.A.T.

    Joined:
    Feb 2, 2007
    Messages:
    12,331
    Location:
    Long Island, NY
    I used to use Penn Championship, extra duties, but hitting with my bud Dennis they go dead 2 cans in 45 mins and they are shot.

    So I switched to the ATPs like Lendl posted the pic of, and they are a bit better.

    I don't like the Dunlop balls, so I use only the Penn ATP or the Wilson US Open.

    Mostly the ATPs.

    J
     
    #12
  13. mikeler

    mikeler G.O.A.T.

    Joined:
    Sep 26, 2008
    Messages:
    19,816
    Location:
    Central Florida
    Penn ATPs are good hard court balls. I don't like the Wilson US Opens because they go dead after a few games and fuzz up quite a bit.
     
    #13
  14. Hokiez

    Hokiez Rookie

    Joined:
    Mar 14, 2007
    Messages:
    287
    Dunlop Grand Prix. Best ball available IMO. I've used both the har-tru and hard court version and loved them both.
     
    #14
  15. vincent_tennis

    vincent_tennis Professional

    Joined:
    May 6, 2007
    Messages:
    973
    Location:
    Aussie (612)
    Club used aussie oepn ones and decided to change (the Penn ones were cheap (i wonder why :rollseyes:))
    Penn Balls DONT BOUNCE AT ALLL =="
    only good thing about that is when u have a Topspin freak, his usually high bouncing balls become floaters :D
     
    #15
  16. mikeler

    mikeler G.O.A.T.

    Joined:
    Sep 26, 2008
    Messages:
    19,816
    Location:
    Central Florida
    I played a tournament with Aussie Open balls. Maybe they got a bad batch, but those were the flattest balls I've ever played with. My opponent and I both had kick serves but abandoned them in the warm up when we saw what a sitter the serve was with those balls.
     
    #16
  17. tenis

    tenis Professional

    Joined:
    Oct 5, 2005
    Messages:
    848
    The Penns were very good years ago, before I think Head bought them and than the quality sinks.
     
    #17
  18. equinox

    equinox Hall of Fame

    Joined:
    Nov 19, 2004
    Messages:
    3,223
    Location:
    Cocos Islands, WA
    Not to sure about the dunlops quality. I opened a can of dunlop "club all court" this week and the ball was moving like crazy in the slight wind. The balls seemed to be underweighted compared to slazengers hard courts.

    I will not play with the DUNLOP "CLUB ALL COURT" balls again.
     
    #18
  19. 10ACE

    10ACE Professional

    Joined:
    Jul 19, 2009
    Messages:
    1,170
    Hmm I like Penn ATP never had a problem

    I use Penn Balls both regular and Extra duty because I can get a box of 16 cans for $29

    Dunlops I thought had a mistigue to them but they hit heavy and they fell out of favor with me.

    Wilson are fine to hit with, someone mention they fuzz up pretty good, and that is very true.

    Prince balls, now that is something I have never hit with, I will pick up a can.

    Slaz balls, are fantastic, I also like the Roland Garros.
     
    #19
  20. adista4

    adista4 Semi-Pro

    Joined:
    Apr 12, 2006
    Messages:
    489
    Location:
    Timisoara, Romania
    same thing hapened to the HEAD ATP Balls...they changed the package...and they break in the second hitting session...all of them:)))
     
    #20
  21. Gemini

    Gemini Hall of Fame

    Joined:
    Mar 1, 2004
    Messages:
    1,595
    Location:
    Atlanta, GA
    The Masters Series balls were the best.
     
    #21
  22. VamosRafa10

    VamosRafa10 Rookie

    Joined:
    Dec 23, 2009
    Messages:
    286
    My fave are slazengers.
     
    #22
  23. jazzyfunkybluesy

    jazzyfunkybluesy Banned

    Joined:
    Oct 20, 2009
    Messages:
    1,707
    I am switching to these balls. I used to play straight Dunlops but then most of the guys who play matches bring Penns which seem lighter and I end up hitting many balls long.
     
    #23
  24. J011yroger

    J011yroger G.O.A.T.

    Joined:
    Feb 2, 2007
    Messages:
    12,331
    Location:
    Long Island, NY
    I hate dunlops, they are too hard. I prefer soft heavy balls.

    J
     
    #24
  25. pmacino

    pmacino Semi-Pro

    Joined:
    Oct 29, 2008
    Messages:
    429
    Location:
    Newcastle, WA
    I've been a hardcore Wilson US Open ball user and have bought them by the case. But, for USTA (Team Captain) I was given a case of the Penn ATPs with the gold caps for match balls (Home Team use) and really like them. They seem to last much longer than the US Opens these days.

    Is it just me or are balls almost like the soup of the day? They seem to rotate as to who is making a good ball at any given time.

    And Jolly, I do agree on the Dunlops, we call them Dunrocks for a reason. :)
     
    #25
  26. jazzyfunkybluesy

    jazzyfunkybluesy Banned

    Joined:
    Oct 20, 2009
    Messages:
    1,707
    What brand do you mean?
     
    #26
  27. Fedace

    Fedace Banned

    Joined:
    Dec 10, 2006
    Messages:
    23,292
    Location:
    San Diego, CA
    Penn balls historically does not last as long as wilson balls but they are far Superior in consistancy and ball control. with Penn, you dont' have to worry about the ball flying off unpredictably. Penn will give you consistant predictable response but it does lose pressure quickly
     
    #27
  28. Tennisallday

    Tennisallday Rookie

    Joined:
    Oct 22, 2009
    Messages:
    115
    Location:
    Kentucky
    My favorites are the slazengers in the purple 4 pack
     
    #28
  29. JoelDali

    JoelDali G.O.A.T.

    Joined:
    Mar 30, 2009
    Messages:
    10,728
    The Penn ATP I think are soft n' heavy. The felt fluffs up nicely unlike Dunlops or Wilson's. I love them.

    Dunlops don't fuzz up and are very hard but keep their pressure the best.

    I have a drawer of old balls that I keep for the puppy, the Dunlops don't lose much pressure whereas the Penns and Wilson do.
     
    #29
  30. Fedace

    Fedace Banned

    Joined:
    Dec 10, 2006
    Messages:
    23,292
    Location:
    San Diego, CA
    i know those are top quality but nobody in the leagues wants to play with them. i break one open and they go what is that ? get another can..:???:
     
    #30
  31. J011yroger

    J011yroger G.O.A.T.

    Joined:
    Feb 2, 2007
    Messages:
    12,331
    Location:
    Long Island, NY
    I like Penn ATPs and Wilson US Opens. I will happily play Pro Penns or Regular Penn Championship.

    With a good partner, I have gone through two cans of Penn Championships in 45 mins, but who can complain at 2 bucks a can?

    J
     
    #31
  32. Blade0324

    Blade0324 Hall of Fame

    Joined:
    Jan 15, 2007
    Messages:
    3,568
    I'm with Jolly on this one. I like the ATP's and the Penn Championship extra duty's. My top choice is the Pro Penn but they are a bit more pricey.
    I really used to like the US Opens but lately have not had good luck with them, they have seemed to be a bit harder and not as much bounce as previously.
     
    #32
  33. OliverSimon

    OliverSimon Hall of Fame

    Joined:
    Mar 17, 2009
    Messages:
    2,172
    Wilsons always work for me!
     
    #33
  34. Richie Rich

    Richie Rich Legend

    Joined:
    Feb 24, 2004
    Messages:
    5,271
    you can name any ball and i'm sure there are people who won't like it. but generally penn balls are crap. although recently, dunlop grand prixs seemed to have gone down in quality
     
    #34
  35. J011yroger

    J011yroger G.O.A.T.

    Joined:
    Feb 2, 2007
    Messages:
    12,331
    Location:
    Long Island, NY
    I am still amazed that balls have been $2 a can for as long as I can remember.

    Especially since I went to the corner bagel joint and got two poppy bagels with cream cheese and a large coffee for $9.

    I thought I misheard the girl, but couldn't think of a number that sounded close to nine.

    J
     
    #35
  36. tenis

    tenis Professional

    Joined:
    Oct 5, 2005
    Messages:
    848
    Prince balls are not bad.
     
    #36
  37. nabbydian

    nabbydian Hall of Fame

    Joined:
    Aug 28, 2009
    Messages:
    2,033
    Location:
    Singapore
    i agree on the penn balls. it was so hard and the balls seems smaller as well. i never brought penn balls again after one can.
     
    #37
  38. myservenow

    myservenow Semi-Pro

    Joined:
    Sep 27, 2007
    Messages:
    429
    What?:wink:

    [​IMG]
     
    #38
  39. SystemicAnomaly

    SystemicAnomaly G.O.A.T.

    Joined:
    Feb 25, 2006
    Messages:
    11,180
    Location:
    Stuck in the Matrix somewhere in Santa Clara CA
    ^ I agree that Dunlop balls feel a bit harder/stiffer than Penn (and Wilson) balls. Penn Champs seem to feel the softest (the regular duty maybe even moreso than the XD). Dunlop Grand Prix balls are fine in warm weather but feel like rocks on cold nights (they are a bit better after the ball has warmed up a bit).

    Prince Tour balls are one of my favorites. Good bounce and they last a lot longer than any other pressurized ball that I've tried.

    I have noticed the same thing for 3-ball cans of Penn Championship balls. For a few years now, it appears that one ball out of every can is substandard. It is sometimes a cosmetic defect (often the lettering is crooked or offset). However, most of the time it appears that one ball bounces noticeably lower than the other two.

    Do you really use regular duty (red label) balls on a hardcourt? Extra duty is the norm for hardcourts unless you want a ball that is a bit faster.
     
    #39
  40. floide

    floide Rookie

    Joined:
    Aug 29, 2012
    Messages:
    164
    Bought 12 cans of Penn Championship two weeks ago. So far, so good.
     
    #40
  41. Tyler91

    Tyler91 Rookie

    Joined:
    Jul 10, 2012
    Messages:
    298
    Location:
    Indianapolis
    This is a very interesting thread for me. I've been using Penn Championship XD's all summer and they seem awesome. I bought two cases about May 1 and threw them in the garage...heat and all...but I think they're fine.
     
    #41
  42. mikeler

    mikeler G.O.A.T.

    Joined:
    Sep 26, 2008
    Messages:
    19,816
    Location:
    Central Florida
    Just played with the Penn Marathon balls again. I think I"ll be switching to them full time.
     
    #42
  43. GlenK

    GlenK Professional

    Joined:
    Mar 20, 2011
    Messages:
    814
    Location:
    St. Augustine, FL
    I got 9 cans of Marathon for buying my last racquet. They had a mail in offer from Head. I like these balls too!!!
     
    #43
  44. Eugene Choi

    Eugene Choi New User

    Joined:
    Sep 8, 2012
    Messages:
    35
    Location:
    Texas
    Wilson US Open balls! There the best!
     
    #44
  45. SystemicAnomaly

    SystemicAnomaly G.O.A.T.

    Joined:
    Feb 25, 2006
    Messages:
    11,180
    Location:
    Stuck in the Matrix somewhere in Santa Clara CA
    ^ No, that would be Prince Tour balls (too bad they are so difficult to get right now).
     
    #45
  46. Ramon

    Ramon Hall of Fame

    Joined:
    Sep 4, 2011
    Messages:
    3,576
    Location:
    Florida
    The Penn ATP balls are an upgrade over the Penn Championship balls. In fact, Penn sells an 8-pack where they include 7 cans of Championship balls and 1 can of ATP balls, and they advertise on the package that you get 1 ATP upgrade. You can tell right away that they have a different colored felt, which is supposed to be better under night lights. I thought they were better than the Championship balls in terms of consistency and durability.

    I do like the Pro Penn Marathon, which I think is their top-of-the-line ball. If you can past the fact that the regular felt fuzzes up early in the first set and wears down after that, it's a great all-around ball, but the Wilson US Opens last longer.
     
    #46
  47. mikeler

    mikeler G.O.A.T.

    Joined:
    Sep 26, 2008
    Messages:
    19,816
    Location:
    Central Florida

    Where I buy the balls, they don't fuzz up. Another player I hit with uses them too, but his always fuzz up. He bought it from a different online retailer than me.
     
    #47
  48. SystemicAnomaly

    SystemicAnomaly G.O.A.T.

    Joined:
    Feb 25, 2006
    Messages:
    11,180
    Location:
    Stuck in the Matrix somewhere in Santa Clara CA
    Are you both buying extra-duty (black label) balls?

    The ATP ball and the Marathon ball are both considered to be Penn's high-end professional balls. The Marathon ball was developed for durability/longevity for teaching pros. The ATP ball OTOH was developed for ATP pro tournament play where longevity is not a primary concern (since 6 new balls are put into play every 9 games). The ATP ball is indeed Penn's brightest ball and its precise, consistent bounce and quality control is superior to that of the Penn Championship balls.

    The Penn Champs seem to be a bit softer than Penn's pro balls and tend to lose pressure quicker.
     
    #48
  49. heartattack

    heartattack Semi-Pro

    Joined:
    Oct 20, 2011
    Messages:
    409
    Location:
    Worlds coldest place!
    i agree with `split step, doesn't bounce at all.. feel a dead ball but the felt where still in descent shape. i have to adjust my technique but still it was a piece of crap. i like the heaviness(weight) of penn because they are the same with Slazenger balls. but Penn is much a dead ball.
     
    #49
  50. mikeler

    mikeler G.O.A.T.

    Joined:
    Sep 26, 2008
    Messages:
    19,816
    Location:
    Central Florida
    Hmm, maybe my buddy bought extra duty by my mistake.
     
    #50

Share This Page