People who call "No!" instead of "Out!"

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  1. Wuppy

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    Am I alone in not being able to stand people who yell "No" instead of "Out?" Every single person I've played with or seen playing who did this was an egomaniac. :( I saw some guy doing it today and it was obnoxious.

    Discuss.
     
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  2. DANMAN

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    I do it and am an obnoxious egomaniac. Your sweeping generalization holds true
     
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  3. JW10S

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    Is it really that easy to get under your skin? Boy, would I have a field day with you. And yes, you are alone...
     
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    Then the question becomes: WHY do you call "no" instead of "out?"

    (And don't say "to annoy people like you" ;) )
     
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    Oh you have no idea. There are so many things that people do which annoy me that it's a challenge getting through the day.

    But you wouldn't have a field day with me because I no longer play people who say "no" instead of "out." I was recently playing with a chick who was calling "wide" and "long" and she was getting them mixed up so she'd go "long! I mean wide!" I had to tell her just to call "out" or I was leaving. It was silly. :shock:
     
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  6. JW10S

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    I could tell that from your post--you saw someone saying 'no' earlier in the day and it bothered you so much that later in the day you were still so rattled you had to sit down at your keyboard and write about it. You will probably be thinking about it when you go to bed tonight. Without even trying I would have you pulling your hair out by the 2nd game. Your issues have issues. Some people have real problems--but you are bothered by people who say 'no'. Wow.
     
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    How about people who say "sorry" instead of "no" or "out"?
    But really, try not to sweat the small stuff, life's too short.

    Nice looking avatar btw
     
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    A lot of the people I've seen play say "No!", and I do it as well.

    Doesn't bother me one bit.

    I actually think "Out!" is more obnoxious when they try to get under your skin and yell it really loudly...
     
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    I don't say "out", nor "wide", or "no". When I see a shot go out (or close enough to the line to give myself the benefit of the doubt), I just shout, "BONK!".
     
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    I yell Wuppy.
     
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    No and out both imply a negative result to the opponent so I can't see there being a discrepancy. I tend to say "no" more often than "out".
     
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    I say no about 80% of the time. I guess I must be an egomaniac about 80% of the time.

    From my experience, lot of players have the word "out" stuck in their tongues. I have also noticed, every player who tends to make calls before the ball even lands or make shady calls seem to love to yell "out." But that might just be me.

    To be fair though, I rarely ever even make calls, which tends to really bother my doubles partners since I tend to continue playing shots that are a good foot out at times. If the ball is way out, I kind of just point my index finger up and that's about it. I only like saying the scores out loud. I want to play to improve more than to win. Winning is a bonus which usually comes more often as you get better.
     
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  14. Topaz

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    I yell 'no', but I'm doing this from now on!
     
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    Well, "no" means not good, or not in. What's the problem?

    I think that, mechanically speaking, it's easier to say "no" than "out," not that it makes much difference.

    And lots of people like saying "no," it's a big part of their lives. I once knew some girls like that...
     
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  16. DANMAN

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    It comes out easier especially on fast first serves and it also doesn't sound like a beginner who yells out at the top of his lungs. At my level, I'm much more concerned about someone calling an in ball out then how they call it out. Usually I know without a call
     
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    Just when you thought it couldn't get more banal...
     
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    I do this. I never say "out", but rather "long" or "wide" depending on the shot. On ones that could be either I just say "no". Alot easier to say no on the serve too.

    Not obnoxious about it though :)
     
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    It seems more in-your-face than "out."

    NO your serve wasn't in. NO. NO.

    I think I'll start shouting "NEIN!" each time.
     
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    I like to underhand serve and then when the opponent can't make it to the ball or hits it long or wide I yell vamos and pump my fists repeatedly. I also never apologize when I hit the net cord, because I meant to do it.
     
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    I yell "FAIL, SUCKER!" and then I laugh. I do this on every ball my opponent hits out.
     
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    Who yells "out"? I don't think I have ever used "out", and don't play against anyone who does...

    I'm another "no" man :)
     
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    I do that when the opponent is a 70 year old woman and she double-faults.
     
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    There have been a number of threads over time in this sub-forum where I've thought, 'man, people get annoyed by lots of fairly inconsequential things on the tennis court.' But this seems to set a new standard.

    Congrats!
     
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  25. LanEvo

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    I say "second".
     
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    I sometimes call "BACK" on serves. Otherwise it's "NO."
     
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    i scream NEIN! when the ball is out. is that better?
     
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    I say either and agree that OUT seems more derogatory than NO.
     
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    I have a teammate who, often in her sweetest voice, says "no, no" just like one might to a small child. I'll admit it sometimes is a little irritating but then I just laugh and when I hit a winner, I'll say "yes, yes," to myself. And I get over it.

    Life's too short.
     
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    Was she blond? My girlfriend who is blond comes up with blondism's all the time. To me they are hilarious, I'm going to compile a blond dictionary of them. The other day she was trying to say pomeranian dog and she called it a pomegranate dog.

    Thank you for this thread Wuppy, it's a great warm-up thread for the long week-end to come. No one will risk any serious brain damage replying to this thread--a little kinesic tape on the forehead should take care of any lost brain plasticity.

    I am a minimalist, I prefer "out", it covers so may circumstances. Why add more to the tennis vocabulary then is absolutely necessary? "Wide" and "long" each have four letter and over the course of a long match on a hot day, the burden of these superfluous letters may make all the difference in winning or losing.

    What really irks me, is servers who announce "second serve" when everyone on the planet knows that after you miss your first serve, the next will be a second--why, why is this needed? It goes against all attempts to preserve matter. Thanks again for this warm-up thread, I hope I didn't derail it, but it was probably time to. I'm now ready to do a hot-tub and then who knows?
     
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  31. gavna

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    NO NO NO NO NO NO NO - get over it - if someone gets under your skin just by saying no you must lose a bunch. Man up and just keep the damn ball in! :twisted:
     
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    OMG, I'm reduced to quoting myself! I just reread the title of the thread and realized I've been living a life of hypocrisy to my minimalist credo. "NO" has fewer letters than "OUT"! From now on I'm saying "NO"--sorry Wuppy.
     
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  33. Wuppy

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    OUT is easier for the human mouth to generate than NO so...

    Look up the hindu chant-word "AUM," it's supposed to be the vibration of the soul itself.
     
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    Perhaps physically. But I'm a mother of two small children. Not only is "NO" really easy to say, I say it a lot! LOL
     
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  35. Wuppy

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    Exactly, and that's my point, it sounds like you're shouting at a little kid when you call "No" instead of "Out." It seems very confrontational and rude to me.
     
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  36. gavna

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    Jeez man up dude......I've been playing for over 45yrs and have been and playing with people using NO or NON or NYET or NOOOOOOO! Man this attitude is the kind of sissy and pansy a**ed stuff that gives tennis such a soft reputation.
     
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    It is neither confrontational nor rude. It is the answer. Unless you say it like Rafa, no?
     
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    I think NO is much easier to say quickly than out. YMMV.
     
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  39. iantrevor

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    Ah! Count the phonemes. "No" is mathematically easier to say than "out."
     
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    Seems this question has been pretty thoroughly answered in the affirmative. Sorry about your lonliness.

    I like 'no' because when a floater's coming that I'm pretty sure will be long I can quietly start with the "nnn" part and only unleash the "O" when it lands out. If I try to do that with "ow" people think I'm in pain.
     
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    I just give them the finger.
     
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    Well the only people drawn to post in the thread were folks who yell "NO," to justify their behavior. Players who yell "OUT" simply read it over, gave a silent, knowing nod, and moved on. :twisted:
     
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    Let's cut the OP some slack. This has got to be way cheaper than therapy. :-| :cry: :lol: :-(

    Here's one that's really annoying: Playing a match and we hear "THANK YOU! THANK YOU!" from one of the guys on the adjacent court. Their ball is rolling onto our court. "THANK YOU!" My opponent looks at the slowly rolling ball, looks at me, scrapes the ball back to Mr. Thankful. We just kind of shrug our shoulders. 3-4 more times during our match, "THANK YOU! THANK YOU!", but never after we actually hit the ball back to them. It was a little too assuming and it came out like, "HEY, STOP WHAT YOU'RE DOING AND GET MY BALL!". If it came out like a warning during our point, to be careful because there is a loose ball on our court, it would still be annoying, but understandable. But this was between points and once during a change over. I think this guy must come from one of those tennis environments where they load the robots with the d@uchebag program.
     
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  44. michael_1265

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    I don't think anyone has anything to justify. If you're going to find fault (no pun intended) with something as benign as a "no" call, you might be better served (again, npi) by making the acquaintance of a nice ball machine, or lacking that, a wall.

    I don't want to play outhouse shrink here, but I think this may be a control issue.

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    At times I say out and at times I say no.
     
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  46. JW10S

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    LOL, dream on. Face it, you are a mentally weak little man. All someone has to do is say 'no' when you hit one of your many serves that go out and you freak out. BTW, I don't know many players who yell anything, they simply say out, no, wide, long, back, and I even heard bad, none of which bothered me a bit. The fact that some people choose to say 'no' bothers you so much says much about you than it does about them. You are the freak.
     
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  47. li0scc0

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    I often call it 'wide' or 'long' on a serve that is near a corner. I might say "out, wide" just so the player knows. Old habits die hard, my first jobs were as a baseball umpire, and I used to do this for the youth players so they knew where the pitch missed "ball, high" or "ball, outside" for example.
     
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    It's weird you should mention that, because I heard old dudes do this all the time. Not young guys, all old guys. I agree it's perplexing, but maybe they don't have enough testosterone left to yell "HEY BALL ON COURT."

    Last time it happened to me, the guy had to repeat it about a dozen times because I had my back turned and I didn't realize he was talking to me. It's definitely a strange situation.
     
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    Well at least I don't sit at home in my boxers calling random people names on the 'net :confused: What kind of person does that?
     
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  50. li0scc0

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    Better to say 'no' than the 5.0+ guys who say nothing, assuming you know that the ball moving 100mph that they think missed by 1/10" was really out. And you assume it was in because they didn't call it. And you get ready to serve and call out 30-0 and they say "no, it is 15 all, that was out". Sigh. Say something to indicate the ball is out! If it is 'no', that is fine.
     
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