People who call "No!" instead of "Out!"

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  1. BHiC

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    I normally say no or nope. And if it is close, I will say no, just wide, or no, just long. I don't have a problem with what a person says, as long as I know what they mean.
     
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  2. BHiC

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    I agree, it really annoys me when you have to ask whether the ball was in or not. Normally you can tell by someone's body language what the call was, but it just makes it a lot more difficult and leads to more scoring disputes. My favorite is I was watching a junior match, and a ball rolls on the court. The two kids don't say a word, but catch the ball, look at each other, and play a let.
     
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  3. Say Chi Sin Lo

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    Really depends on my mood:

    1) Jump up in the air and pump my fist, two times!
    2) Make an "X" with my forearms and make a buzzer noise.
    3) Do the field goal sign like |___| so I can tell the opponent how much he/she missed.
    4) Yells "FAULT!" when the serve hits the net.
    5) Yells "OUT!" on balls that hits the fence, or flies into other courts.
     
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  4. TroutSc

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    My wife was telling about a lady that calls "no ma'am" in a southern drawl pretty good. I could see that being annoying.
     
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  5. JW10S

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    Only a mental midget would be bothered by what people are saying on another court--you've made my point for me. I feel very sorry for you. You must not ever have any fun when you play tennis. Again, maybe if you missed less often people saying 'no' wouldn't drive you so insane.
     
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  6. Say Chi Sin Lo

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    Since when do you get to pick and choose who you play and not play in "Adult League & Tournament"?

    That's like saying I won't ever play a pusher, a serve-and-volleyer, a grinder, a supreme moonballer, or play against a habitual flopper in basketball.
     
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  7. BHiC

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    I agree, it doesn't matter what the opponent says, as long as we both know that it means out. If my opponent wants to yell PLATYPUS every time I miss a shot, that is fine, as long as I know that platypus means the ball was out.
     
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  8. Wuppy

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    Happened at a recent match. I was watching two 4.5s playing. They never said a word, never called a shot, never announced the score. Unless they disagreed or were confused, which was basically on every point.

    "40-30!"
    "No.. it's 30-40"
    "Was that shot out?"
    "Yeah, by like 3 inches!"
    "Oh. Ok, 30-40."

    Every d*mn point LOL
     
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  9. Wuppy

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    I've played a couple of tournaments and never had anyone shout anything but "out," so so far that's not an issue for me. It's mostly the lamo club players doing it.

    Though now that I think about it there was a guy, an Australian guy, who was playing a 3.5 tournament and shouting "come on!!!" after every couple of points. It was so ridiculous that it was kind of funny though.
     
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  10. Say Chi Sin Lo

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    I think you're missing the point here. But hey, keep doing you.

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  11. Wuppy

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    ^^^ Thanks, I will. :twisted: If I ever do have to go up against someone who says "NO," I'm gonna start saying "NEIN! NEIN NEIN NEIN!" With a real gutteral German accent. Can't wait, that will surely be even more annoying.
     
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  12. Say Chi Sin Lo

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    On top of all the things and silent protest I'd would do, I'll bust out my Chinese/Cantonese and shout "bu hao!" And play into your head, clearly you aren't even thinking about the game. I'll keep you going on that path.
     
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  13. tennis tom

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    Now, now, no name calling it's only a thread and an opportunity to learn. I'm glad Wuppy started this thread and starting tomorrow instead of "OUT" I was going to say "PLATYPUS", but actually, in the interest of name calling, I'm going to say: "SAY CHI SIN LO"--what a great monicker and it sounds so dirty too! I'm going to be whispering it in my gf's ear tonight as we watch SNL.
     
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  14. Wuppy

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    I'm gonna mix that one in with my "NEIN"s. And I'm going to start shouting BANZAI!! right before each serve.
     
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  15. Say Chi Sin Lo

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    ... Do you even know what it means? Haha, it actually means something. And it's not dirty.
     
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  16. JW10S

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    Again, how a ball is called out is only an issue when you hear it over, and over, and over again. Clearly Wuppy misses a lot, so he hears 'no' a lot, and it bothers him, a lot. He is even bothered by calls on the next court. Everything bothers him. Someone with even the slightest bit of mental toughness would not be bothered by a ball being called 'no' instead of 'out'. But this guy takes the time to start a thread about it. This is a major issue for this guy. And in the end that is what is really sad. This poor guy is so easily distracted that the simplest of things can send him over the edge. As I said, I feel very sorry for him, not just because of his psychological issues, but because clearly he is just not very good and hears 'no' a lot when he tries to hit the ball in.
     
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  17. Wuppy

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    Umm.. ok now you're getting weird.

    I don't need an internet stalker thanks.
     
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  18. JW10S

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    And BTW, I once played a guy who instead of saying 'no' or 'out' would say 'bad'. It didn't bother me a bit--because I didn't hear it often. Wuppy hears 'no' a lot when he/she plays.
     
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  19. Say Chi Sin Lo

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    That's not right. hahahahahah :)
     
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  20. tennis tom

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    Just view it as free psychoanalysis by the Dr. Freud of the tennis internets--er, maybe gypsy fortune telling.
     
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  21. tennis tom

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    How disappointing, to me it will always mean "OUT!". OK, I give up, save me from googling, what does it mean?--get your racket back?--step into it?--toss the ball higher?
     
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  22. Say Chi Sin Lo

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    It's a Cantonese slang/saying for: "Stupid/Damn Crazy Guy!"
     
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  23. nickarnold2000

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    That's funny because here in Taiwan people say "outside" or "safe" (in English)for balls being out or in. I keep telling everyone that no one says that in North America but oh well. Nobody says, "bu yau" except, of course, my girlfriend!
     
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  24. tennytive

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    For me it's the other way around. I lose my voice easily, and yelling out strains my voice. I can yell no much louder without straining my voice, so that's what I do. I also signal out or safe if I'm running back for a baseline ball.

    As a former linesman I was trained to yell fault, and out. One of the training tips was to put an H in front of the word out so as to project your voice in a louder tone.

    But now that I'm back to playing instead of calling lines, I instinctively want to say no whenever the ball is out. So far, no one has complained.
     
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  25. J_R_B

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    I like to call "short" when someone hits the net, just to annoy them.
     
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  26. TheOneHander

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    Boy, you sure showed him! I bet you could beat him, because that makes you such a cool guy. You must be so good at tennis and a much better person than him. I hope I can be just like you one day. Honestly, do you see how ridiculous you're being? Your argument is basically "if someone finds something annoying, it must happen to them often". That's not true. If someone finds something annoying, it's because it is annoying. For instance, posters like you don't pop up that often, but when you do crawl out of your caves, you are all quite annoying-even if we (thankfully) don't have to deal with you lot that often.

    On topic, though, I can understand that some people might find it annoying. Most of the time, however, the way a call is made in all cases is not done to annoy or bother the opponent in any way-it may just be what they're used to, or what was normal for them, etc. I seriously doubt calling "no" is done with malicious intent. If anything, though, "bad" could be kind of borderline, but it's not like they're telling you "hey, your shot was technically and strategically flawed!"
     
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  27. Coach Chad

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    It honestly does not bother me Wuppy...I play a wide variety of people from all over the world, and it takes some time to get used to the verbage/hand signals...I do not find it offensive.
     
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  28. g4driver

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    Classic. :razz: I like your style.

    Courts 1&2 at Family Circle Tennis Center in Charleston, SC are almost underneath I-526 which has a shipping port across the river, and hence a lot of 18-Wheelers. The noise level in the daytime makes it nearly impossible to hear calls even for players with loud voices. "The finger" works for deaf players too. :)

    First time I played against a deaf guy was in doubles a few years back. We won, but the deaf guy played some nice tennis.
     
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  29. michael_1265

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    Overuse of emoticons has to be at least as annoying as calling "no" on an out ball.
     
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  30. JW10S

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    Not so, things only annoy you if you allow them to. I don't allow other people to have the kind of control over me to the point where something as trite as saying 'no' effects me so much that I have to write a thread about it and claim anyone who does say no is an egomaniac as the OP did. Again, the issue is with him, not the people who say 'no'.
     
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  31. TheOneHander

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    I should clarify-I should've put it is annoying to them. Whether it truly is annoying or not is not the debate; that's just semantics. My point is that it's illogical to assume that, if someone is annoyed by people calling "no", they must hit a lot of errors as you said. That's just as far of a stretch as deeming the no-callers egomaniacs.

    By the way, what about the rest of my post?
     
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  32. tennis_ocd

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    "I'm not sure... take two." Might be my biggest peeve.
     
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  33. r2473

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    I'm with you on this. I've had times when a ball will roll on our court from an adjacent court and settle at the net (or wherever). The guy will start saying "THANK YOU". I'll quickly tell the guy that we see the ball and will grab it when we walk to the net (or wherever) to retrieve our ball. Or after the game. Basically, "yes, I know your ball is on our court. I'll get it. But I'm not walking across the court to grab it right now. You have two balls. Just continue playing and I'll toss it over to you in a bit".

    Never works. They always continue to parrot "THANK YOU" (usually louder and more forefully). I've even had guys walk on the court while we are playing to get the ball in these cases.

    Do you REALLY need it back this instant? Isn't it enough to know that we know your ball is on our court and we will grab it in the next minute or two? Look, we aren't trying to steal your ball.

    Sure, if it happens to stop in the middle of our court or close to one of us, we'll grab it right away. But if it settles in a spot that isn't a bother, do we really HAVE TO stop what we ard doing and get your ball RIGHT NOW?

    Of course the answer to this is "yes".
     
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  34. jdubbs

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    This is a tough one. Because the guy wants to get it back now and not when they're in the middle of the next point. Easiest thing to do is just ask for it back. But I've left it be as well. So I'm one the fence on this one.
     
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  35. PrinceMoron

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    What do Trappist monks say?
     
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  36. bluetrain4

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    Yeah, it really doesn't matter at all to me. "Out", "No", "Nope", "Long", "Wide" whatever. As long as my opponent is making calls correctly, I don't care.
     
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  37. r2473

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    I'm not just going to toss it back while they are in the middle of a point. I can easily see when the point is done, get their attention, and toss it to the closest guy.

    We're talking about a minute or two normally. But if I'm just getting ready to serve, I'm not going to walk up to the net or into the far corner to retrieve their ball right away. Just let me wait until I'm retrieving my balls. Then I'll grab yours, toss it over, and everything will be OK.

    Of course in actual fact, I do retrieve the ball right away because I know that the other guys will stand there and call for it until I do. But it is a strange tennis custom that makes no sense to me.
     
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    I fart really loud. It's really a problem in mixed doubles........
     
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  39. vive le beau jeu !

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    i love this thread... it seems we have the same existential issues in different languages. :)
     
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    I yell "YOLO" loud enough for the surrounding courts to hear it.
     
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  41. dParis

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    Don't sweat it. It's not something the guys are going to get too sensitive about.
     
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  42. tennis tom

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    Does it sound like you're saying "OUT" or "NO"?
     
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    You need to change that to Vive le jeu bleu. You can have any colour as long as it is blue.
     
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  44. 3fees

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    People who say no , just want to be different or say it to irritate the player,, calling out or hand signal up or index finger up is good enough.

    Cheers
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  45. hcb0804

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    It sounds like "FFFFFFFAULT!!!!"


    I'M watching the BNL Italia now, the Delpo-Llodra match & the lines people are saying "NO!" on out calls.
     
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    Absolutely. I patently refuse to play this way. If they can not definitively call the ball out, then the lose the point. If I don't definitely see the ball out, I lose the point. "Not sure" is the same as "Good" according to The Code...
     
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    Quick solution to this problem (though I wouldn't have the chutzpah to do it myself) if they keep doing it after you have calmly explained that you will get their ball when it is convenient for you would be to walk quickly to their ball the next time they do it and hit it as hard as you can over the fence so that they have to go get it themselves. I would imagine that would instill a good bit more patience in them going forward.
     
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  48. jswinf

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    ^^^Of course, you would never allow one of your balls to intrude on another court, oh, no, that's for rank beginners. No mishits, no sideways hops off the net cord. :)

    I think this ball retreival thing is another 'peeve' (seems to me this thread and the pet peeve thread have gotten pretty incestuous) that just doesn't make a lot of sense. Just get the damn ball and give it back, already.
     
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    YES

    I also yell "NO" to my doubles partner to try to prevent them from hitting an "out" ball.
     
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  50. r2473

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    I will in a minute. Let me find a convenient break in my game. You have 2 balls. You can keep playing. I'm not going anywhere.
     

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