Performance Ratings

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  1. Wuornos

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    Although in many respects these ratings are more elementary in their calculation methodology than previous exercises they seek to better represent and model the thought processes of expert opinion in the field of tennis

    They are called Performance Ratings (PR) because the model developed is based around three factors which together measure the performance of a player by the quality of their results. The level of Domination of the rated player meaning the concentration of achievement within a limited time frame. Standard of Opposition that are currently active when achieving their measured domination. Tournament being competed in and its importance measured by the players attracted in recent years.

    The PR system is what I would describe as a double iterative process. We will come to exactly what this means shortly.

    Achievement is measured on a very basic formula, but should be fit for our purpose. i.e. Players in the majors receive points based on their round of exit. Each round they progress earns them double the points of the previous round. I have never been a believer in the official ratings approach of the progression of a round within an event being worth less than double achievement. If the player numbers halve in my eyes the achievement doubles, hence the above approach. The value of the numbers are irrelevant as this does not effect the relative rankings. Some will notice I am only looking at majors and this is because I have previously received feedback highlighting the fact that some players do not consider the lesser events as important and their performance given the heavy schedule is weakened within these events. Of course Achievements measured in this way would massively favour players like Connors and Agassi, who both had exceptionally long careers, while penalising players like Borg and Laver (who had short careers within the open era).

    Next we move onto Domination. Domination is calculated as rolling figure based upon achievement within recent events with more recent events receiving greater weight. Achievement points from the last 4 Majors receive the highest weighting while each year the weighting awarded to the event halves. As you can see more than half of a players dominance is made up of his/her performance in the last 12 months with the remainder being made up of performances over the previous years.

    It is importatnt to note that these ratings are not single year ratings and a players inactivity within a particular year would not lead to that player being removed from the ratings although the rating would decay over time. It is imortant to retain a players rating as their return to the game at a future point will impact on the quality evaluation of the event being participated in.

    These simple calculations generating a very simple estimate of a players domination ends the first iteration.

    The second iteration begins by calculating event weightings based upon the player dominations calculated as part of the first iterative process. Event weightings are reflective of the strength of the tournament. Of course the strength of any tournament is dependant on the players current strength of the world players multiplied by the events ability to attract them. This sounds very complex but in reality the calculation is simple. The average domination score for all players taking part in the event as calculated in the first iteration is sufficiently accurate for our purposes . Remember this implicitly includes player strength and the tournaments status. E.g. If the overall domination points reduce at the top of the player population then the tournament strength reduces proportionately. Likewise if a tournament begins to fail in attracting the top players while dominance levels amongst the top players remain constant, then again we see the tournament strength drop. The results from these calculation lead to the Australian Open receiving less weighting in the mid to late 1970s and early 1980s while the French has also suffered at times. Wimbledon and the US Open remain reasonably high in these calculations. Please note the above methodology ensures the weighting remains directly proportional to the domination of players attracted and therefore is self adjusting and free from human opinion.

    The next step in the process is to recalculate the domination ratings. These are calculated in exactly the same way as previously, i.e. achievement multiplied by the year weightings except each is then also multiplied by the relevant tournament strength. This figure then provides a basic indicator of current dominance adjusted by tournament status and dominance of other top players. One piece of feedback I have received in relation to this is that it is slightly self referencing. That is a tournament is stronger if Federer competes and therefore Federer always receives that benefit. I agree with this but do not see it as a problem, it is important that everyone receives the same credit for winning an event and therefore to exclude the player being rated from the strength calculation of that tournament would be equally unfair. The feedback is limited and results only in a slight damping of the rating changes at the top of the scale, which is not something I would necessarily see as a bad thing. The benefits are massive in that we have an independent measure which combines player strength with tournament status which is a big stumbling block in many ratings which give equal weight to all majors irrespective of era and their status at that time.

    For the very early periods following WWII it is necessary to use a standard statistical tool to provide a cautious estimate of the domination score had a full 4 years data been available. To do this we take the total weighting which is normally applied to players, i.e. 8*4events + 4*4evnts + 2*4 events +1*4events = 60. Where we have just three events (i.e after the US open of 1968 ), i.e. 8* 3 = 24, we apply a weighting of SQR(60)/SQR(24) on top of the basic weighting. Sounds complicated but it really isn’t.

    As we can see we now have an adjusted dominance rating for the point in time we have calculated. This gives an indication of the players strength in majors at that point and that point only. Most people assess players on their abilities when they are at their peaks and it is therefore necessary to recalculate the ratings after each major event to identify correctly their peak playing strength.

    In the real world an arithmetic progression in standard would yield a geometric increase in dominance. For this reason, ratings have been standardised to a linear scale. They have also been adjusted to reflect a particular standard. The standard used is the minimum level of play necessary to achieve a major quarter final when the standard or dominance at the top of the professional game is at its lowest. This standard has been set at 2200. By and large players who can exceed this standard by a clear 400 points, i.e. 2600, are those players who can expect to win 4 or more majors in an average length career. Of course some players over achieve while others under achieve so this is not a hard and fast rule.

    I have taken great time and trouble to ensure the adjustments for tournament strength, which are effected by the standard of the top players in the population and the respective tournament status, are precisely balanced. A player existing in the general population stands an equal chance of increasing or decreasing in rating following the arrival within the population of an outstanding player. Any increase is therefore due to a change in the actual players standard as the reduction in iteration 1 dominance points is balanced by the tournament weightings in the second iteration. A good example of this is Andy Roddick. When he won the US Open in 2003 he had a PR of 2661. In 2004 Federer’s domination of the mens’ game began, but at the end of that year Roddick’s rating had bearly moved at all despite the reduced opportunities in majors. His rating was 2665. 2005 and Rafael Nadal won his first major along with Safin, but Andy Roddick was improving slightly at this time and his rating edged up to 2675. 2006 saw Federer and Nadal take over the top of the men’s game completely. Despite this domination, Roddick’s rating was stable at 2670. In 2007 Roddick’s rating had declined slightly to 2665 but this shows little correlation with the rise of Nadal and Federer. 2008 was a disasterous year for Roddick despite and his fall in PR to 2630 was true reflection of the difficulties he was having at that time. His recent good performance in the Australian Open has seen his rating climb back to 2652. We can therefore see that Roddick's performance ratings remained reasonably constant despite reduced opportunities for success in the the face of Federer and Nadal's dominance of the game. His poor year of 2008 being very much one of true lack lustre performances and not due to any movement in the population performance distribution. Performance Ratings therefore show Roddick's peak to be after Wimbledon of 2005 with a rating of 2689, and not when he was most dominant in the years preceding that prior to the rise of Federer and Nadal

    I hope you all enjoy these ratings as much as I have in putting them together. Any questions please ask. Or should you just wish to know about an individual players peak rating or how their rating progressed over time, who were the top players at what time etc, then just ask away.

    I certainly don’t expect this to answer the GOAT question but at least it should help provide some informed discussion over and above personal opinion and based on ‘value added’ statistical data.

    Take care all

    Tim
     
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  2. Wuornos

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    The following data show peak career Perfromance Ratings for all players who have achieved a 2650 PR based on results since WWII up to and including Wimbledon of 2010.


    1 Roger Federer 2797
    2 Rafael Nadal 2779
    3 Rod Laver 2776
    4 Ivan Lendl 2774
    5 Roy Emerson 2768
    6 Mats Wilander 2763
    7 Björn Borg 2762
    8 Frank Sedgman 2762
    9 Tony Trabert 2760
    10 Pete Sampras 2757
    11 Ashley Cooper 2753
    12 John McEnroe 2751
    13 Jim Courier 2750
    14 Ken Rosewall 2742
    15 Lew Hoad 2741
    16 Stefan Edberg 2741
    17 Boris Becker 2737
    18 Fred Stolle 2733
    19 Neale Fraser 2731
    20 Jaroslav Drobný 2725
    21 Novak Djokovic 2724
    22 Jimmy Connors 2720
    23 Vic Seixas 2717
    24 Manuel Santana 2714
    25 Pat Cash 2713
    26 Andre Agassi 2708
    27 Ken McGregor 2703
    28 Dick Savitt 2703
    29 Juan Martín del Potro 2703
    30 John Newcombe 2703
    31 Tony Roche 2701
    32 Arthur Ashe 2698
    33 Guillermo Vilas 2697
    34 Andy Murray 2692 Player's Current PR equals their Peak PR. Strong chance of increase in the near future.
    35 Vitas Gerulaitis 2690
    36 Andy Roddick 2689
    37 Budge Patty 2688
    38 Lleyton Hewitt 2686
    39 Jack Kramer 2685
    40 Sergi Bruguera 2685
    41 Mervyn Rose 2684
    42 Stan Smith 2683
    43 Malcolm Anderson 2683
    44 Michael Stich 2682
    45 Juan Carlos Ferrero 2681
    46 Marat Safin 2681
    47 Ted Schroeder 2678
    48 Ilie Năstase 2676
    49 Cliff Drysdale 2674
    50 Alex Olmedo 2672
    51 Sven Davidson 2670
    52 Robin Söderling 2670 Player's Current PR equals their Peak PR. Strong chance of increase in the near future.
    53 Pancho Gonzales 2669
    54 Frank Parker 2667
    55 Michael Chang 2666
    56 Rex Hartwig 2665
    57 Miloslav Mečíř 2665
    58 Patrick Rafter 2663
    59 Yannick Noah 2662
    60 Nicola Pietrangeli 2660
    61 Tomáš Berdych 2660 Player's Current PR equals their Peak PR. Strong chance of increase in the near future.
    62 Chuck McKinley 2659
    63 Gustavo Kuerten 2659
    64 Yevgeny Kafelnikov 2659
    65 Jan Kodeš 2657
    66 Nikolay Davydenko 2655
    67 Eric Sturgess 2654


    WOMEN

    1 Martina Navratilova 2809
    2 Steffi Graf 2806
    3 Monica Seles 2805
    4 Margaret Smith Court 2797
    5 Chris Evert 2790
    6 Serena Williams 2785
    7 Maureen Connolly 2779
    8 Venus Williams 2770
    9 Billie Jean King 2768
    10 Martina Hingis 2763
    11 Arantxa Sánchez Vicario 2757
    12 Louise Brough Clapp 2756
    13 Maria Bueno 2755
    14 Doris Hart 2754
    15 Ann Haydon Jones 2752
    16 Justine Henin 2747
    17 Hana Mandlíková 2747
    18 Evonne Goolagong 2745
    19 Lindsay Davenport 2745
    20 Margaret Osborne Dupont 2743
    21 Jennifer Capriati 2739
    22 Gabriela Sabatini 2735
    23 Amélie Mauresmo 2727
    24 Maria Sharapova 2725
    25 Althea Gibson 2724
    26 Lesley Turner Bowrey 2723
    27 Nancy Richey Gunter 2720
    28 Shirley Fry 2717
    29 Tracy Austin 2715
    30 Darlene Hard 2712
    31 Jana Novotná 2711
    32 Helena Suková 2707
    33 Kim Clijsters 2705
    34 Andrea Jaeger 2700
    35 Mary Joe Fernández 2700
    36 Françoise Durr 2694
    37 Conchita Martínez 2690
    38 Iva Majoli 2689
    39 Rosemary Casals 2688
    40 Patricia Canning Todd 2687
    41 Zina Garrison 2686
    42 Ana Ivanović 2685
    43 Mary Pierce 2678
    44 Virginia Wade 2678
    45 Judy Tegart 2676
    46 Claudia Kohde-Kilsch 2675
    47 Kerry Melville Reid 2671
    48 Svetlana Kuznetsova 2671
    49 Pam Shriver 2671
    50 Anastasia Myskina 2670
    51 Dinara Safina 2669
    52 Olga Morozova 2668
    53 Christine Truman Janes 2667
    54 Angela Mortimer 2662
    55 Jan Lehane O'Neill 2662
    56 Yola Ramirez Ochoa 2660
    57 Jelena Janković 2655

    I will endeavour to keep these data updated quarterly as and when I receive database updates.
     
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  3. Wuornos

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    Current Top 10 Performance ratings following Wimbledon of 2010.

    It is importatnt to note that these ratings are not single year ratings and a players inactivity within a particular year would not lead to that player being removed from the ratings although the rating would decay over time.

    It is imortant to retain a players rating as their return to the game at a future point will impact on the quality evaluation of the event being participated in.


    Mens' Current Performance Ratings

    1 Roger Federer 2781
    2 Rafael Nadal 2772
    3 Novak Djokovic 2707
    4 Juan Martín del Potro 2694
    5 Andy Murray 2692
    6 Robin Söderling 2670
    7 Tomáš Berdych 2660
    8 Andy Roddick 2646
    9 Jo-Wilfried Tsonga 2638
    10 Marin Čilić 2611


    Womens' Current Performance Ratings

    1 Serena Williams 2738
    2 Justine Henin 2645
    3 Venus Williams 2637
    4 Francesca Schiavone 2637
    5 Kim Clijsters 2620
    6 Dinara Safina 2619
    7 Svetlana Kuznetsova 2616
    8 Maria Sharapova 2612
    9 Jelena Janković 2612
    10 Elena Dementieva 2607

    As Henin had been inactive and only returned to Tennis this year her PR had decayed by 100 points. Despite her limited success by her standards since her return this has been sufficient to arrest the decay but not to start increasing her rating back towards her peak of 2747.

    Decay is based upon average rate of decline of past players who have been inactive and returned to the sport.

    The ratings further down the rankings do not seem to be unusually low leading to the conclusion that there is strength in depth in the womens game but the top players are simply failing to dominate or commit to excellence in the same way as women have in the past. However all of this of course depends on where you draw the line for 'Strength in Depth'. If by 'Strength in Depth you are referring to the performances of the top 5 players then the standards do appear lower than usual. If however by 'Strength in Depth' you are referring to the strength of the 50th ranked player, then there seems little evidence that the standard is any weaker or stronger now than at any other point in history.
     
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    The following are the Major records for men since WWII for all players making a Quarter Final or better.

    The order the data are presented are Rank, Player, Titles, Losing Finals, Losing Semi Finals, Losing Quarter Finals.

    1 Roger Federer 16 6 3 4
    2 Pete Sampras 14 4 5 6
    3 Roy Emerson 12 3 4 18
    4 Rod Laver 11 6 1 2
    5 Björn Borg 11 5 1 4
    6 Ivan Lendl 8 11 9 6
    7 Ken Rosewall 8 8 9 5
    8 Jimmy Connors 8 7 16 10
    9 Andre Agassi 8 7 11 10
    10 Rafael Nadal 8 2 3 3
    11 John McEnroe 7 4 8 7
    12 Mats Wilander 7 4 3 6
    13 John Newcombe 7 3 6 12
    14 Stefan Edberg 6 5 8 7
    15 Boris Becker 6 4 8 5
    16 Frank Sedgman 5 3 2 4
    17 Tony Trabert 5 0 2 2
    18 Guillermo Vilas 4 4 4 7
    19 Jim Courier 4 3 4 4
    20 Lew Hoad 4 2 3 6
    21 Ashley Cooper 4 2 3 4
    22 Manuel Santana 4 0 4 2
    23 Jaroslav Drobný 3 5 6 3
    24 Neale Fraser 3 4 9 5
    25 Arthur Ashe 3 4 6 5
    26 Jan Kodeš 3 2 1 4
    27 Gustavo Kuerten 3 0 0 5
    28 Jack Kramer 3 0 0 0
    29 Fred Stolle 2 6 3 6
    30 Vic Seixas 2 3 5 10
    31 Ilie Năstase 2 3 1 6
    32 Lleyton Hewitt 2 2 4 7
    33 Marat Safin 2 2 3 2
    34 Patrick Rafter 2 2 3 0
    35 Nicola Pietrangeli 2 2 1 5
    36 Mervyn Rose 2 1 7 9
    37 Budge Patty 2 1 5 7
    38 Yevgeny Kafelnikov 2 1 3 7
    39 Stan Smith 2 1 2 5
    40 Frank Parker 2 1 1 3
    41 Sergi Bruguera 2 1 1 0
    42 Alex Olmedo 2 1 0 1
    43 Dick Savitt 2 0 3 6
    43 Johan Kriek 2 0 3 6
    45 Pancho Gonzales 2 0 2 1
    46 Tony Roche 1 5 7 8
    47 Andy Roddick 1 4 5 8
    48 John Bromwich 1 4 3 3
    49 Michael Chang 1 3 4 5
    50 Goran Ivanišević 1 3 3 7
    51 Ken McGregor 1 3 2 1
    52 Malcolm Anderson 1 3 1 3
    53 Vitas Gerulaitis 1 2 5 3
    54 Michael Stich 1 2 3 4
    55 Juan Carlos Ferrero 1 2 3 3
    56 Sven Davidson 1 2 2 5
    57 Pat Cash 1 2 2 4
    58 Novak Djokovic 1 1 6 6
    59 Roscoe Tanner 1 1 4 5
    60 Chuck McKinley 1 1 4 1
    61 Art Larsen 1 1 2 6
    62 Manuel Orantes 1 1 2 5
    63 Andrés Gimeno 1 1 2 3
    64 Carlos Moyà 1 1 1 5
    65 Dinny Pails 1 1 1 1
    66 Petr Korda 1 1 0 4
    67 Ted Schroeder 1 1 0 0
    68 Rafael Osuna 1 0 4 3
    69 Richard Krajicek 1 0 3 5
    69 Thomas Muster 1 0 3 5
    71 Adriano Panatta 1 0 2 3
    72 Mark Edmondson 1 0 2 2
    73 Yannick Noah 1 0 1 8
    74 Bob Falkenburg 1 0 1 4
    75 Adrian Quist 1 0 1 3
    75 Albert Costa 1 0 1 3
    77 Juan Martín del Potro 1 0 1 2
    77 Marcel Bernard 1 0 1 2
    77 Thomas Johansson 1 0 1 2
    77 Yvon Petra 1 0 1 2
    81 József Asbóth 1 0 1 0
    82 Andrés Gómez 1 0 0 5
    82 William Bowrey 1 0 0 5
    84 Brian Teacher 1 0 0 2
    85 Gastón Gaudio 1 0 0 0
    86 Eric Sturgess 0 3 7 2
    87 Herbert Flam 0 2 5 6
    88 Todd Martin 0 2 4 4
    88 Tom Brown 0 2 4 4
    90 Cédric Pioline 0 2 2 4
    91 Miloslav Mečíř 0 2 2 3
    92 Andy Murray 0 2 2 2
    93 Luis Ayala 0 2 1 5
    94 Àlex Corretja 0 2 1 3
    95 Kevin Curren 0 2 1 1
    95 Kurt Nielsen 0 2 1 1
    95 Rex Hartwig 0 2 1 1
    98 Mark Philippoussis 0 2 0 3
    99 Robin Söderling 0 2 0 2
    100 Steve Denton 0 2 0 0
    101 Gardnar Mulloy 0 1 4 8
    102 Tom Okker 0 1 4 7
    103 Cliff Drysdale 0 1 4 5
    103 David Nalbandian 0 1 4 5
    105 Dennis Ralston 0 1 3 6
    106 Henri Leconte 0 1 3 5
    107 Geoffrey Brown 0 1 3 4
    108 Harold Solomon 0 1 3 2
    109 Alex Metreveli 0 1 2 6
    110 Clark Graebner 0 1 2 5
    111 Nikola Pilić 0 1 2 1
    111 Wilhelm Bungert 0 1 2 1
    113 Ken Fletcher 0 1 1 7
    114 Fernando González 0 1 1 5
    115 Martin Mulligan 0 1 1 4
    115 Phil Dent 0 1 1 4
    115 Pierre Darmon 0 1 1 4
    118 Andrei Medvedev 0 1 1 3
    118 Brian Gottfried 0 1 1 3
    118 Dick Crealy 0 1 1 3
    118 Frank Froehling 0 1 1 3
    122 Guillermo Coria 0 1 1 2
    122 Jo-Wilfried Tsonga 0 1 1 2
    124 Istvan Gulyas 0 1 1 1
    124 Magnus Norman 0 1 1 1
    124 Marcos Baghdatis 0 1 1 1
    124 Patrick Proisy 0 1 1 1
    124 Tomáš Berdych 0 1 1 1
    124 Željko Franulović 0 1 1 1
    130 Rainer Schüttler 0 1 1 0
    130 Víctor Pecci 0 1 1 0
    132 Marcelo Ríos 0 1 0 5
    133 Onny Parun 0 1 0 4
    134 Kim Warwick 0 1 0 3
    135 Arnaud Clément 0 1 0 2
    135 John Lloyd 0 1 0 2
    135 John Sadri 0 1 0 2
    135 Thomas Enqvist 0 1 0 2
    139 Alberto Berasategui 0 1 0 1
    139 Greg Rusedski 0 1 0 1
    139 Juan Gisbert 0 1 0 1
    139 MaliVai Washington 0 1 0 1
    139 Mikael Pernfors 0 1 0 1
    144 Chris Lewis 0 1 0 0
    144 Ian Vermaak 0 1 0 0
    144 John Marks 0 1 0 0
    144 Mariano Puerta 0 1 0 0
    144 Martin Verkerk 0 1 0 0
    149 Tim Henman 0 0 6 4
    150 Ham Richardson 0 0 4 6
    151 Nikolay Davydenko 0 0 4 5
    151 Sébastien Grosjean 0 0 4 5
    153 Tommy Haas 0 0 4 3
    154 Roger Taylor 0 0 4 2
    155 Raúl Ramírez 0 0 3 6
    156 Bob Hewitt 0 0 3 4
    157 Ray Ruffels 0 0 3 3
    158 Cliff Richey 0 0 3 2
    158 John Alexander 0 0 3 2
    160 Bill Sidwell 0 0 3 1
    160 Michael Sangster 0 0 3 1
    162 Hank Pfister 0 0 3 0
    162 Thomas Gorman 0 0 3 0
    164 Tim Mayotte 0 0 2 7
    165 Eddie Dibbs 0 0 2 5
    165 Jonas Björkman 0 0 2 5
    167 Barry MacKay 0 0 2 4
    168 Bill Talbert 0 0 2 3
    168 Wayne Ferreira 0 0 2 3
    170 Aaron Krickstein 0 0 2 2
    170 Dick Stockton 0 0 2 2
    170 José Higueras 0 0 2 2
    173 Barry Phillips-Moore 0 0 2 1
    173 Corrado Barazzutti 0 0 2 1
    173 François Jauffret 0 0 2 1
    173 Giuseppe Merlo 0 0 2 1
    173 Jonas Svensson 0 0 2 1
    173 Ramanathan Krishnan 0 0 2 1
    173 Slobodan Živojinović 0 0 2 1
    173 Wally Masur 0 0 2 1
    181 Enrique Morea 0 0 2 0
    181 Jan-Erik Lundquist 0 0 2 0
    181 José Luis Clerc 0 0 2 0
    184 Owen Davidson 0 0 1 8
    185 Anders Järryd 0 0 1 4
    185 Nicolas Kiefer 0 0 1 4
    185 Sjeng Schalken 0 0 1 4
    188 Andrei Chesnokov 0 0 1 3
    188 Colin Dibley 0 0 1 3
    188 David Ferrer 0 0 1 3
    188 Dominik Hrbatý 0 0 1 3
    188 Jacques Brichant 0 0 1 3
    188 Magnus Larsson 0 0 1 3
    188 Mario Ančić 0 0 1 3
    188 Peter McNamara 0 0 1 3
    188 Ulf Schmidt 0 0 1 3
    197 Bill Scanlon 0 0 1 2
    197 Bob Mark 0 0 1 2
    197 David Wheaton 0 0 1 2
    197 Karel Nováček 0 0 1 2
    197 Karol Kučera 0 0 1 2
    197 Mikhail Youzhny 0 0 1 2
    197 Nicolas Escudé 0 0 1 2
    197 Robert Haillet 0 0 1 2
    197 Ron Holmberg 0 0 1 2
    197 Ronald Winston Barnes 0 0 1 2
    197 Ross Case 0 0 1 2
    197 Sandy Mayer 0 0 1 2
    209 Alexander Volkov 0 0 1 1
    209 Bernard Bartzen 0 0 1 1
    209 Bob Giltinan 0 0 1 1
    209 Butch Buchholz 0 0 1 1
    209 Eugene Scott 0 0 1 1
    209 Félix Mantilla 0 0 1 1
    209 Fernando Verdasco 0 0 1 1
    209 Filip Dewulf 0 0 1 1
    209 Gaël Monfils 0 0 1 1
    209 Ian Ayre 0 0 1 1
    209 Ivan Ljubičić 0 0 1 1
    209 Jimmy Arias 0 0 1 1
    209 John Fraser 0 0 1 1
    209 Marc Rosset 0 0 1 1
    209 Marin Čilić 0 0 1 1
    209 Nicolás Lapentti 0 0 1 1
    209 Pat Du Pré 0 0 1 1
    209 Patrick McEnroe 0 0 1 1
    209 Paul McNamee 0 0 1 1
    209 Robert Lutz 0 0 1 1
    209 Rod Frawley 0 0 1 1
    230 Allan Stone 0 0 1 0
    230 Ben Testerman 0 0 1 0
    230 Christophe Roger-Vasselin 0 0 1 0
    230 Darren Cahill 0 0 1 0
    230 Fernando Meligeni 0 0 1 0
    230 Franco Squillari 0 0 1 0
    230 Georges Goven 0 0 1 0
    230 Jan Gunnarsson 0 0 1 0
    230 Jan Leschly 0 0 1 0
    230 Jason Stoltenberg 0 0 1 0
    230 Jiří Novák 0 0 1 0
    230 Joachim Johansson 0 0 1 0
    230 Jürgen Melzer 0 0 1 0
    230 Karl Meiler 0 0 1 0
    230 Mark Woodforde 0 0 1 0
    230 Orlando Sirola 0 0 1 0
    230 Richard Gasquet 0 0 1 0
    230 Robby Ginepri 0 0 1 0
    230 Todd Woodbridge 0 0 1 0
    230 Victor Amaya 0 0 1 0
    230 Vladimir Voltchkov 0 0 1 0
    230 Xavier Malisse 0 0 1 0

    Regards

    Tim
     
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    Above Mens major records continued ...

    Robert Keith Wilson 0 0 0 7
    Lennart Bergelin 0 0 0 6
    Guy Forget 0 0 0 5
    Tommy Robredo 0 0 0 5
    Colin Long 0 0 0 4
    Eliot Teltscher 0 0 0 4
    Gene Mayer 0 0 0 4
    George Worthington 0 0 0 4
    Hicham Arazi 0 0 0 4
    Marty Riessen 0 0 0 4
    Vijay Amritraj 0 0 0 4
    Wojciech Fibak 0 0 0 4
    Younes El Aynaoui 0 0 0 4
    Andrei Cherkasov 0 0 0 3
    Christian Bergstrom 0 0 0 3
    Christian Kuhnke 0 0 0 3
    Earl Butch Buchholz 0 0 0 3
    Giovanni Cucelli 0 0 0 3
    Guillermo Cañas 0 0 0 3
    Hans Gildemeister 0 0 0 3
    James Blake 0 0 0 3
    Jarkko Nieminen 0 0 0 3
    Joakim Nyström 0 0 0 3
    John Cooper 0 0 0 3
    Mark Cox 0 0 0 3
    Pierre Pellizza 0 0 0 3
    Ramesh Krishnan 0 0 0 3
    Straight Clark 0 0 0 3
    Thomaz Koch 0 0 0 3
    Alexander Popp 0 0 0 2
    Balázs Taróczy 0 0 0 2
    Bernd Karbacher 0 0 0 2
    Bob Carmichael 0 0 0 2
    Brad Gilbert 0 0 0 2
    Byron Black 0 0 0 2
    Charlie Pasarell 0 0 0 2
    Don Candy 0 0 0 2
    Dragutin Mitic 0 0 0 2
    Earl Cochell 0 0 0 2
    Emilio Sánchez 0 0 0 2
    Feliciano López 0 0 0 2
    Felicisimo Ampon 0 0 0 2
    Goran Prpić 0 0 0 2
    Heinz Günthardt 0 0 0 2
    Jacco Eltingh 0 0 0 2
    Jaime Yzaga 0 0 0 2
    Javier Sánchez 0 0 0 2
    Jay Berger 0 0 0 2
    John Pearce 0 0 0 2
    Juan Ignacio Chela 0 0 0 2
    Lionel Brodie 0 0 0 2
    Mardy Fish 0 0 0 2
    Michael Green 0 0 0 2
    Michiel Schapers 0 0 0 2
    Mike Sangster 0 0 0 2
    Nicolas Almagro 0 0 0 2
    Pancho Segura 0 0 0 2
    Peter Rennert 0 0 0 2
    Raymond Moore 0 0 0 2
    Robert Howe 0 0 0 2
    Thierry Champion 0 0 0 2
    Tomáš Šmíd 0 0 0 2
    Abe Segal 0 0 0 1
    Adrian Voinea 0 0 0 1
    Alberto Mancini 0 0 0 1
    Alex Rădulescu 0 0 0 1
    Allen Fox 0 0 0 1
    Allen Morris 0 0 0 1
    Amos Mansdorf 0 0 0 1
    Andras Adam-Stolpa 0 0 0 1
    André Sá 0 0 0 1
    Andrei Pavel 0 0 0 1
    Andrew Lloyd 0 0 0 1
    Andrew Pattison 0 0 0 1
    Antonio Palafox 0 0 0 1
    Armando Vieira 0 0 0 1
    Billy Knight 0 0 0 1
    Billy Martin 0 0 0 1
    Boro Jovanovic 0 0 0 1
    Brad Drewett 0 0 0 1
    Brad Pearce 0 0 0 1
    Brett Steven 0 0 0 1
    Brian Fairlie 0 0 0 1
    Bruce Manson 0 0 0 1
    Butch Walts 0 0 0 1
    Byron Bertram 0 0 0 1
    Carlos Fernandes 0 0 0 1
    Chris Woodruff 0 0 0 1
    Clifton Mayne 0 0 0 1
    Clive Wilderspin 0 0 0 1
    Cristiano Caratti 0 0 0 1
    Ctislav Doseděl 0 0 0 1
    Dan Goldie 0 0 0 1
    Davide Sanguinetti 0 0 0 1
    Derrick Rostagno 0 0 0 1
    Don McNeill 0 0 0 1
    Donald Dell 0 0 0 1
    Drew Gitlin 0 0 0 1
    Eddie Moylan 0 0 0 1
    Ernests Gulbis 0 0 0 1
    F. Vrba 0 0 0 1
    Fabrice Santoro 0 0 0 1
    Fausto Gardini 0 0 0 1
    Florian Mayer 0 0 0 1
    Franco Davín 0 0 0 1
    Franjo Puncec 0 0 0 1
    Frew McMillan 0 0 0 1
    Galo Blanco 0 0 0 1
    Geoff Masters 0 0 0 1
    Gerard Pilet 0 0 0 1
    Gilbert Shea 0 0 0 1
    Gilles Müller 0 0 0 1
    Gilles Simon 0 0 0 1
    Gordon Forbes 0 0 0 1
    Graham Lovett 0 0 0 1
    Guillermo Pérez Roldán 0 0 0 1
    Han Jurgen Pohmann 0 0 0 1
    Harry Hopman 0 0 0 1
    Harry Likas 0 0 0 1
    Hendrik Dreekmann 0 0 0 1
    Henrik Sundström 0 0 0 1
    Igor Andreev 0 0 0 1
    Ingo Buding 0 0 0 1
    Ion Ţiriac 0 0 0 1
    Irvin Dorfman 0 0 0 1
    Isaias Pimentel 0 0 0 1
    Ismail El Shafei 0 0 0 1
    Ivo Karlović 0 0 0 1
    Jack Harper 0 0 0 1
    Jaime Fillol 0 0 0 1
    Jakob Hlasek 0 0 0 1
    Jan Siemerink 0 0 0 1
    Jan-Michael Gambill 0 0 0 1
    Jean-Claude Barclay 0 0 0 1
    Jean-Claude Molinari 0 0 0 1
    Jim Osborne 0 0 0 1
    John Andrews 0 0 0 1
    Jon Douglas 0 0 0 1
    Jürgen Fassbender 0 0 0 1
    Julien Benneteau 0 0 0 1
    Keith Diepraam 0 0 0 1
    Kelly Evernden 0 0 0 1
    Lew Gerrard 0 0 0 1
    Lu Yen-hsun 0 0 0 1
    M Belkin 0 0 0 1
    Magnus Gustafsson 0 0 0 1
    Marcello Del Bello 0 0 0 1
    Marcelo Filippini 0 0 0 1
    Mariano Zabaleta 0 0 0 1
    Mark Dickson 0 0 0 1
    Martín Jaite 0 0 0 1
    Max Bonner 0 0 0 1
    Max Mirnyi 0 0 0 1
    Mel Purcell 0 0 0 1
    Mikael Tillström 0 0 0 1
    Milan Šrejber 0 0 0 1
    Nicklas Kulti 0 0 0 1
    Paolo Bertolucci 0 0 0 1
    Patricio Cornejo 0 0 0 1
    Patrik Kühnen 0 0 0 1
    Paul Annacone 0 0 0 1
    Paul Chamberlin 0 0 0 1
    Paul Haarhuis 0 0 0 1
    Paul Kronk 0 0 0 1
    Paul Remy 0 0 0 1
    Peter Feigl 0 0 0 1
    Peter Fleming 0 0 0 1
    Philippe Washer 0 0 0 1
    Pierre Barthès 0 0 0 1
    Radek Štěpánek 0 0 0 1
    Renzo Furlan 0 0 0 1
    Ricardo Acuña 0 0 0 1
    Robert Abdesselam 0 0 0 1
    Robert McCarthy 0 0 0 1
    Robin Drysdale 0 0 0 1
    Rodney Harmon 0 0 0 1
    Ronald Agenor 0 0 0 1
    Sam Giammalva 0 0 0 1
    Sammy Giammalva Jr. 0 0 0 1
    Scott Davis 0 0 0 1
    Shlomo Glickstein 0 0 0 1
    Shuzo Matsuoka 0 0 0 1
    Sidney Schwartz 0 0 0 1
    Stefan Koubek 0 0 0 1
    Tim Gullikson 0 0 0 1
    Tim Wilkison 0 0 0 1
    Todd Witsken 0 0 0 1
    Tom Gullikson 0 0 0 1
    Tom Warhurst 0 0 0 1
    Tony Mottram 0 0 0 1
    Toomas Lejus 0 0 0 1
    Trevor Fancutt 0 0 0 1
    Victor Hănescu 0 0 0 1
    Vince Spadea 0 0 0 1
    Vladimir Zednik 0 0 0 1
    Wanaro N'Godrella 0 0 0 1
    Warren Woodcock 0 0 0 1
    Whitney Reed 0 0 0 1

    Regards

    Tim
     
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    The following are the Major records for women since WWII for all players making a Quarter Final or better.

    The order the data are presented are Rank, Player, Titles, Losing Finals, Losing Semi Finals, Losing Quarter Finals.

    1 Margaret Smith Court 24 5 7 7
    2 Steffi Graf 22 9 6 5
    3 Chris Evert 18 16 18 2
    4 Martina Navratilova 18 14 12 9
    5 Serena Williams 13 3 3 12
    6 Billie Jean King 12 6 8 14
    7 Monica Seles 9 4 5 13
    8 Maureen Connolly 9 0 0 0
    9 Evonne Goolagong 7 11 4 4
    10 Venus Williams 7 7 4 14
    11 Maria Bueno 7 5 8 9
    12 Justine Henin 7 5 5 2
    13 Doris Hart 6 12 6 4
    14 Louise Brough Clapp 6 6 9 4
    15 Margaret Osborne Dupont 6 3 4 7
    16 Martina Hingis 5 7 7 5
    17 Althea Gibson 5 2 0 2
    18 Arantxa Sánchez Vicario 4 8 10 13
    19 Hana Mandlíková 4 4 6 9
    20 Shirley Fry 4 4 6 6
    21 Nancye Bolton 4 1 3 1
    22 Ann Haydon Jones 3 6 12 9
    23 Lindsay Davenport 3 4 11 13
    24 Darlene Hard 3 4 5 5
    25 Angela Mortimer 3 2 2 5
    26 Maria Sharapova 3 1 6 3
    27 Jennifer Capriati 3 0 10 10
    28 Virginia Wade 3 0 6 14
    29 Nancy Richey Gunter 2 4 7 9
    30 Kim Clijsters 2 4 7 3
    31 Lesley Turner Bowrey 2 4 6 10
    32 Mary Pierce 2 4 0 8
    33 Thelma Long 2 3 2 5
    34 Svetlana Kuznetsova 2 2 1 6
    35 Amélie Mauresmo 2 1 5 9
    36 Pauline Betz 2 1 0 0
    37 Tracy Austin 2 0 3 8
    38 Jana Novotná 1 3 5 13
    39 Gabriela Sabatini 1 2 15 10
    40 Kerry Melville Reid 1 2 10 10
    41 Conchita Martínez 1 2 9 11
    42 Christine Truman Janes 1 2 6 6
    43 Mima Jaušovec 1 2 2 5
    44 Ana Ivanović 1 2 1 1
    45 Patricia Canning Todd 1 1 7 4
    46 Zsuzsa Körmöczy 1 1 3 4
    47 Virginia Ruzici 1 1 1 8
    48 Shirley Bloomer Brasher 1 1 1 5
    49 Françoise Durr 1 0 4 12
    50 Sue Barker 1 0 3 2
    51 Mary Carter 1 0 3 1
    51 Mary Reitano 1 0 3 1
    53 Beryl Penrose Collier 1 0 1 6
    54 Anastasia Myskina 1 0 0 5
    54 Iva Majoli 1 0 0 5
    54 Karen Hantze Susman 1 0 0 5
    57 Francesca Schiavone 1 0 0 3
    58 Nelly Landry 1 0 0 2
    59 Barbara Jordan 1 0 0 0
    59 Chris O'Neil 1 0 0 0
    61 Helena Suková 0 4 3 11
    62 Jan Lehane O'Neill 0 4 2 8
    63 Mary Joe Fernández 0 3 6 8
    64 Wendy Turnbull 0 3 4 7
    65 Dinara Safina 0 3 2 2
    66 Rosemary Casals 0 2 7 11
    67 Elena Dementieva 0 2 7 3
    68 Dorothy (Dottie) Head Knode 0 2 6 7
    69 Andrea Jaeger 0 2 5 3
    70 Helen Gourlay 0 2 3 4
    71 Olga Morozova 0 2 1 7
    72 Yola Ramirez Ochoa 0 2 1 4
    73 Renáta Tomanová 0 2 1 3
    74 Pam Shriver 0 1 8 10
    75 Jelena Janković 0 1 5 1
    76 Zina Garrison 0 1 4 10
    77 Beverly Baker Fleitz 0 1 4 7
    78 Sandra Reynolds Price 0 1 4 5
    79 Helga Niessen Masthoff 0 1 3 6
    80 Dianne Fromholtz 0 1 3 2
    80 Judy Tegart 0 1 2 12
    82 Vera Puzejova Sukova 0 1 2 5
    83 Anke Huber 0 1 2 4
    83 Renee Schuurman Haygarth 0 1 2 4
    85 Joyce Fitch 0 1 2 1
    86 Natasha Zvereva 0 1 1 6
    87 Lorraine Coghlan Robinson 0 1 1 4
    88 Angela Buxton 0 1 1 2
    88 Carole Caldwell Graebner 0 1 1 2
    88 Jennifer Staley Hoad 0 1 1 2
    88 Kathy Jordan 0 1 1 2
    88 Marie Toomey 0 1 1 2
    88 Nellie Adamson 0 1 1 2
    94 Betty Stöve 0 1 1 1
    94 Vera Zvonareva 0 1 1 1
    96 Florenta Mihai 0 1 1 0
    96 Samantha Stosur 0 1 1 0
    98 Nathalie Tauziat 0 1 0 6
    98 Nell Hopman 0 1 0 6
    100 Sylvia Hanika 0 1 0 5
    101 Ginette Bucaille 0 1 0 2
    101 Sharon Walsh 0 1 0 2
    103 Caroline Wozniacki 0 1 0 1
    103 Helen Angwin 0 1 0 1
    103 Julie Sampson 0 1 0 1
    103 Marion Bartoli 0 1 0 1
    103 Pat Ward Hales 0 1 0 1
    108 Betsy Nagelsen 0 1 0 0
    109 Mary Hawton 0 0 5 9
    110 Claudia Kohde-Kilsch 0 0 4 5
    111 Julie Heldman 0 0 3 6
    111 Karen Krantzcke 0 0 3 6
    113 Amanda Coetzer 0 0 3 4
    113 Annette VanZyl Duplooy 0 0 3 4
    113 Robyn Ebbern 0 0 3 4
    116 Kimiko Date 0 0 3 3
    118 Regina Maršíková 0 0 3 1
    117 Manuela Maleeva 0 0 2 12
    119 Nadia Petrova 0 0 2 7
    120 Betty Rosenquist Pratt 0 0 2 4
    121 Catarina Lindqvist 0 0 2 3
    121 Jean Walker-Smith 0 0 2 3
    121 Nicole Vaidišová 0 0 2 3
    124 Janet Newberry 0 0 2 2
    124 Jo Durie 0 0 2 2
    124 Lori McNeil 0 0 2 2
    124 Winnie Shaw 0 0 2 2
    128 Sheila Summers 0 0 2 1
    129 Dorothy Cheney 0 0 2 0
    129 Esme Ashford 0 0 2 0
    129 Zheng Jie 0 0 2 0
    132 Lesley Hunt 0 0 1 7
    133 Patty Schnyder 0 0 1 6
    134 Barbara Potter 0 0 1 4
    134 Nancy Chaffee Kiner 0 0 1 4
    136 Barbara Scofield 0 0 1 3
    136 Carling Bassett-Seguso 0 0 1 3
    136 Chanda Rubin 0 0 1 3
    136 Daniela Hantuchová 0 0 1 3
    136 Edda Buding 0 0 1 3
    136 Jelena Dokić 0 0 1 3
    136 Kazuko Sawamatsu 0 0 1 3
    136 Li Na 0 0 1 3
    136 Paola Suárez 0 0 1 3
    145 Anna Chakvetadze 0 0 1 2
    145 Annalisa Bossi 0 0 1 2
    145 Betty Hilton Harrison 0 0 1 2
    145 Christine Matison 0 0 1 2
    145 Donna Floyd 0 0 1 2
    145 Elena Likhovtseva 0 0 1 2
    145 Gigi Fernández 0 0 1 2
    145 Gussie Moran 0 0 1 2
    145 Helen Rihbany 0 0 1 2
    145 Helga Schultze 0 0 1 2
    145 Kathy Harter 0 0 1 2
    145 Kathy Rinaldi 0 0 1 2
    145 Mary Sawyer 0 0 1 2
    145 Rosie Maria Reyes 0 0 1 2
    159 Anna Kournikova 0 0 1 1
    159 Bettina Bunge 0 0 1 1
    159 Claudia Porwik 0 0 1 1
    159 Constance Wilson 0 0 1 1
    159 Daphne Seeney 0 0 1 1
    159 Hazel Redick-Smith 0 0 1 1
    159 Heather Brewer 0 0 1 1
    159 Irina Spîrlea 0 0 1 1
    159 Kerry Harris 0 0 1 1
    159 Mary Arnold Prentiss 0 0 1 1
    159 Mary Beavis 0 0 1 1
    159 Natasha Chmyreva 0 0 1 1
    159 Raquel Giscafre 0 0 1 1
    159 Sally Moore 0 0 1 1
    173 Alexandra Stevenson 0 0 1 0
    173 Alison Baker 0 0 1 0
    173 Barbara Breit 0 0 1 0
    173 Belinda Cordwell 0 0 1 0
    173 Betty Holstein 0 0 1 0
    173 Brigitte Simon 0 0 1 0
    173 Camille Benjamin 0 0 1 0
    173 Carol Hanks Aucamp 0 0 1 0
    173 Clarisa Fernandez 0 0 1 0
    173 Dawn Fogarty 0 0 1 0
    173 Deirdre Catt 0 0 1 0
    173 Diane Evers 0 0 1 0
    173 Dominika Cibulková 0 0 1 0
    173 Elisabeth Ekblom 0 0 1 0
    173 Fabiola Zuluaga 0 0 1 0
    173 Heather Segal 0 0 1 0
    173 Jeanne Arth 0 0 1 0
    173 Marianne Werdel-Witmeyer 0 0 1 0
    173 Marijke Schaar 0 0 1 0
    173 Meredith McGrath 0 0 1 0
    173 Mirjana Lučić 0 0 1 0
    173 Nathalie Dechy 0 0 1 0
    173 Nicole Provis 0 0 1 0
    173 Pat Jones 0 0 1 0
    173 Petra Kvitová 0 0 1 0
    173 Sylvana Lazzarino 0 0 1 0
    173 Tsvetana Pironkova 0 0 1 0
    173 Vicki Palmer 0 0 1 0
    173 Yanina Wickmayer 0 0 1 0
    173 Yvonne Vermaak 0 0 1 0

    Regards

    Tim
     
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    Above Womens major records continued ...

    203 Katerina Maleeva 0 0 0 7
    204 Jean Rinkel-Quertier 0 0 0 6
    205 Fay Muller 0 0 0 5
    205 Katja Ebbinghaus 0 0 0 5
    207 Madonna Schacht 0 0 0 4
    207 Norma Baylon 0 0 0 4
    209 Agnieszka Radwańska 0 0 0 3
    209 Anne Smith 0 0 0 3
    209 Brenda Schultz-McCarthy 0 0 0 3
    209 Ivanna Madruga 0 0 0 3
    209 Jane "Peaches" Bartkowicz 0 0 0 3
    209 Jean Bostock 0 0 0 3
    209 Joan Curry 0 0 0 3
    209 Julie Halard-Decugis 0 0 0 3
    209 Kathy May 0 0 0 3
    209 Loris Nichols Southam 0 0 0 3
    209 Magda Rurac 0 0 0 3
    209 Victoria Azarenka 0 0 0 3
    221 Ai Sugiyama 0 0 0 2
    221 Amy Frazier 0 0 0 2
    221 Angélica Gavaldón 0 0 0 2
    221 Anne-Marie Seghers 0 0 0 2
    221 Bonnie Gadusek 0 0 0 2
    221 Carla Suarez Navarro 0 0 0 2
    221 Clare Proctor 0 0 0 2
    221 Dominique Monami 0 0 0 2
    221 Dulcie Whittaker 0 0 0 2
    221 Erika Vollmer 0 0 0 2
    221 Flavia Pennetta 0 0 0 2
    221 Gail Chanfreau 0 0 0 2
    221 Gail Sherriff 0 0 0 2
    221 Greer Stevens 0 0 0 2
    221 Gretchen Rush 0 0 0 2
    221 Helen Kelesi 0 0 0 2
    221 Helen Perez 0 0 0 2
    221 Jill Blackman 0 0 0 2
    221 Judith Wiesner 0 0 0 2
    221 Kaia Kanepi 0 0 0 2
    221 Kathy Horvath 0 0 0 2
    221 Kay Dening 0 0 0 2
    221 Kay Menzies 0 0 0 2
    221 Kay Tuckey 0 0 0 2
    221 Larisa Neiland 0 0 0 2
    221 Linky Boshoff 0 0 0 2
    221 Lisa Raymond 0 0 0 2
    221 Lois Felix 0 0 0 2
    221 Maria Weiss 0 0 0 2
    221 Norma Marsh 0 0 0 2
    221 Pam Teeguarden 0 0 0 2
    221 Rita Bentley 0 0 0 2
    221 Rosalyn Fairbank 0 0 0 2
    221 Sadie Newcombe 0 0 0 2
    221 Sandrine Testud 0 0 0 2
    221 Shahar Pe'er 0 0 0 2
    221 Virginia Ruano Pascual 0 0 0 2
    221 Vlasta Vopickova 0 0 0 2
    259 Adriana Serra Zanetti 0 0 0 1
    259 Ágnes Szávay 0 0 0 1
    259 Alice Weiwers 0 0 0 1
    259 Alicia Molik 0 0 0 1
    259 Amouretti 0 0 0 1
    259 Anna-Lena Grönefeld 0 0 0 1
    259 Anna-Maria Cecchini 0 0 0 1
    259 Anne Minter 0 0 0 1
    259 Arlette de Cazalet 0 0 0 1
    259 Astrid Suurbeck 0 0 0 1
    259 Baba Lewis 0 0 0 1
    259 Barbara Gerken 0 0 0 1
    259 Barbara Hallquist 0 0 0 1
    259 Barbara Hawcroft 0 0 0 1
    259 Barbara Krase 0 0 0 1
    259 Barbara Schett 0 0 0 1
    259 Barbara Schwartz 0 0 0 1
    259 Barbara Warby 0 0 0 1
    259 Belmar Gunderson 0 0 0 1
    259 Bernice Carr Vukovich 0 0 0 1
    259 Beth Jones 0 0 0 1
    259 Betsy Abbas 0 0 0 1
    259 Bettina Fulco 0 0 0 1
    259 Betty Hilton 0 0 0 1
    259 Beverly Rae 0 0 0 1
    259 Candy Reynolds 0 0 0 1
    259 Carina Karlsson 0 0 0 1
    259 Cecilia Martinez 0 0 0 1
    259 Christianne Mercelis 0 0 0 1
    259 Christina Sandberg 0 0 0 1
    259 Corinne Molesworth 0 0 0 1
    259 Cynthia Doerner 0 0 0 1
    259 Dája Bedáňová 0 0 0 1
    259 Denisa Chladkova 0 0 0 1
    259 Dennis Bradshaw 0 0 0 1
    259 Dianne Balestrat 0 0 0 1
    259 Donna Fales 0 0 0 1
    259 Donna Ganz 0 0 0 1
    259 Dorothy Jenkins 0 0 0 1
    259 Dorothy Levine 0 0 0 1
    259 Dorte Ekner 0 0 0 1
    259 Elena Bovina 0 0 0 1
    259 Elena Subirats 0 0 0 1
    259 Elizabeth Smylie 0 0 0 1
    259 Elizabeth Starkie 0 0 0 1
    259 Eva Pfaff 0 0 0 1
    259 Eva Szabo 0 0 0 1
    259 Fay Robinson 0 0 0 1
    259 Fiorella Bonicelli 0 0 0 1
    259 Gretchen Magers 0 0 0 1
    259 Gwen Thiele 0 0 0 1
    259 Gwen Thomas 0 0 0 1
    259 Heidi Eisterlehner 0 0 0 1
    259 Helen Amos 0 0 0 1
    259 Helen Fletcher 0 0 0 1
    259 Ilse Buding 0 0 0 1
    259 Inés Gorrochategui 0 0 0 1
    259 Jan Wilton 0 0 0 1
    259 Jennifer Mundel 0 0 0 1
    259 Joan Gibson 0 0 0 1
    259 Joan Hartigan 0 0 0 1
    259 Joan Tuckfield 0 0 0 1
    259 Joanne Russell 0 0 0 1
    259 Joy Gannon Mottram 0 0 0 1
    259 Joyce Williams 0 0 0 1
    259 Julia Wipplinger 0 0 0 1
    259 Julie Albert 0 0 0 1
    259 Justina Bricka 0 0 0 1
    259 Karina Habšudová 0 0 0 1
    259 Karolina Šprem 0 0 0 1
    259 Kateryna Bondarenko 0 0 0 1
    259 Kathy Kuykendall 0 0 0 1
    259 Kimberly Po 0 0 0 1
    259 Laura Du Pont 0 0 0 1
    259 Laura Gildemeister 0 0 0 1
    259 Laura Golarsa 0 0 0 1
    259 Leila Meskhi 0 0 0 1
    259 Lina Krasnoroutskaya 0 0 0 1
    259 Linda Tuero 0 0 0 1
    259 Linda Wild 0 0 0 1
    259 Lisa Bonder 0 0 0 1
    259 Lucia Manfredi 0 0 0 1
    259 Lucia Romanov 0 0 0 1
    259 Lucie Šafářová 0 0 0 1
    259 Madge Vosters 0 0 0 1
    259 Magdalena Maleeva 0 0 0 1
    259 Magüi Serna 0 0 0 1
    259 Manon Bollegraf 0 0 0 1
    259 Margo Rayson 0 0 0 1
    259 Maria Kirilenko 0 0 0 1
    259 Marie Neumanova 0 0 0 1
    259 Marise Kruger 0 0 0 1
    259 Marta Marrero 0 0 0 1
    259 Mary-Ann Eisel 0 0 0 1
    259 Maryna Godwin 0 0 0 1
    259 Meghann Shaughnessy 0 0 0 1
    259 Melanie Oudin 0 0 0 1
    259 Melissa Brown 0 0 0 1
    259 Michaëlla Krajicek 0 0 0 1
    259 Michele Gurdal 0 0 0 1
    259 Mimi Arnold 0 0 0 1
    259 Miroslava Bendlova 0 0 0 1
    259 Miroslava Holubova 0 0 0 1
    259 Molly Blair 0 0 0 1
    259 Molly Van Nostrand 0 0 0 1
    259 Mona Guerrant 0 0 0 1
    259 Nany Basuki 0 0 0 1
    259 Naoko Sato 0 0 0 1
    259 Naoko Sawamatsu 0 0 0 1
    259 Norma Ellis 0 0 0 1
    259 Odile De Roubin 0 0 0 1
    259 Pam Southcombe 0 0 0 1
    259 Pascale Paradis 0 0 0 1
    259 Patricia Coleman 0 0 0 1
    259 Patricia Hy-Boulais 0 0 0 1
    259 Patti Hogan 0 0 0 1
    259 Patty Fendick 0 0 0 1
    259 Paule Courteix 0 0 0 1
    259 Peggy Dawson-Scott 0 0 0 1
    259 Petra Mandula 0 0 0 1
    259 Petra Ritter 0 0 0 1
    259 Pilar Barril 0 0 0 1
    259 Raffaella Reggi 0 0 0 1
    259 Rayni Fox 0 0 0 1
    259 Ruta Gerulaitis 0 0 0 1
    259 Ruxandra Dragomir 0 0 0 1
    259 Sabine Appelmans 0 0 0 1
    259 Sabine Hack 0 0 0 1
    259 Sabine Lisicki 0 0 0 1
    259 Sesil Karatantcheva 0 0 0 1
    259 Séverine Bremond 0 0 0 1
    259 Shinobu Asagoe 0 0 0 1
    259 Silvia Farina Elia 0 0 0 1
    259 Sophie Amiach 0 0 0 1
    259 Sorana Cîrstea 0 0 0 1
    259 Susan Chartrier-Partridge 0 0 0 1
    259 Sybille Bammer 0 0 0 1
    259 Sylvia Plischke 0 0 0 1
    259 Tamarine Tanasugarn 0 0 0 1
    259 Tatiana Golovin 0 0 0 1
    259 Terry Phelps 0 0 0 1
    259 Trudy Groenman 0 0 0 1
    259 Val Wicks 0 0 0 1
    259 Val Ziegenfuss 0 0 0 1
    259 Virginia Kovacs 0 0 0 1
    259 Yaroslava Shvedova 0 0 0 1
    259 Zenda Liess 0 0 0 1

    Regards

    Tim
     
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    Performance Rating for the winner of each major singles title for the past 10 years at the point in time when they won the major.


    MEN

    1999 French Andre Agassi 2584
    1999 Wimbledon Pete Sampras 2709
    1999 US Andre Agassi 2668
    2000 Australian Andre Agassi 2703
    2000 French Gustavo Kuerten 2609
    2000 Wimbledon Pete Sampras 2704
    2000 US Marat Safin 2601
    2001 Australian Andre Agassi 2700
    2001 French Gustavo Kuerten 2654
    2001 Wimbledon Goran Ivanišević 2632
    2001 US Lleyton Hewitt 2665
    2002 Australian Thomas Johansson 2532
    2002 French Albert Costa 2618
    2002 Wimbledon Lleyton Hewitt 2674
    2002 US Pete Sampras 2673
    2003 Australian Andre Agassi 2685
    2003 French Juan Carlos Ferrero 2639
    2003 Wimbledon Roger Federer 2555
    2003 US Andy Roddick 2661
    2004 Australian Roger Federer 2672
    2004 French Gastón Gaudio 2579
    2004 Wimbledon Roger Federer 2700
    2004 US Roger Federer 2729
    2005 Australian Marat Safin 2681
    2005 French Rafael Nadal 2590
    2005 Wimbledon Roger Federer 2738
    2005 US Roger Federer 2747
    2006 Australian Roger Federer 2752
    2006 French Rafael Nadal 2660
    2006 Wimbledon Roger Federer 2765
    2006 US Roger Federer 2773
    2007 Australian Roger Federer 2781
    2007 French Rafael Nadal 2719
    2007 Wimbledon Roger Federer 2789
    2007 US Roger Federer 2791
    2008 Australian Novak Djokovic 2719
    2008 French Rafael Nadal 2745
    2008 Wimbledon Rafael Nadal 2756
    2008 US Roger Federer 2784
    2009 Australian Rafael Nadal 2779


    WOMEN

    1999 French Steffi Graf 2723
    1999 Wimbledon Lindsay Davenport 2737
    1999 US Serena Williams 2663
    2000 Australian Lindsay Davenport 2743
    2000 French Mary Pierce 2665
    2000 Wimbledon Venus Williams 2705
    2000 US Venus Williams 2734
    2001 Australian Jennifer Capriati 2680
    2001 French Jennifer Capriati 2704
    2001 Wimbledon Venus Williams 2752
    2001 US Venus Williams 2763
    2002 Australian Jennifer Capriati 2739
    2002 French Serena Williams 2723
    2002 Wimbledon Serena Williams 2749
    2002 US Serena Williams 2765
    2003 Australian Serena Williams 2779
    2003 French Justine Henin 2698
    2003 Wimbledon Serena Williams 2785
    2003 US Justine Henin 2726
    2004 Australian Justine Henin 2740
    2004 French Anastasia Myskina 2670
    2004 Wimbledon Maria Sharapova 2649
    2004 US Svetlana Kuznetsova 2649
    2005 Australian Serena Williams 2748
    2005 French Justine Henin 2704
    2005 Wimbledon Venus Williams 2697
    2005 US Kim Clijsters 2688
    2006 Australian Amélie Mauresmo 2697
    2006 French Justine Henin 2712
    2006 Wimbledon Amélie Mauresmo 2724
    2006 US Maria Sharapova 2711
    2007 Australian Serena Williams 2668
    2007 French Justine Henin 2737
    2007 Wimbledon Venus Williams 2669
    2007 US Justine Henin 2747
    2008 Australian Maria Sharapova 2725
    2008 French Ana Ivanović 2685
    2008 Wimbledon Venus Williams 2681
    2008 US Serena Williams 2691
    2009 Australian Serena Williams 2702


    It is interesting to note the underlying trend in the Performance Ratings (PR) of Major winners over the past 10 years. Broadly speaking we have seen a gradual increase in the PR of the mens winners even in isolated wins like that of Novak Djokovic in the Australian of 2008, while the womens game seems to be have been on a gradual decline since the peak of the Williams Sisters in 2002 2003 with the only respite in this occuring as a result of Justine Henin's perfomances leading up to her peak rating in 2007.

    I hope to update these tomorrow Saturday 28th August 2010.

    Regards

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    You are back Tim, the legend is still alive!
    Welcome back!
     
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    Thanks Tennisfan.

    Your kind words are much appreciated.

    All I need to do now is to get a new job following my stay in hospital.

    Take care

    Tim
     
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  13. Tennisfan!

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    Missed you here really buddy, take care, don't fade away never again or we will kill you! :)

    Let's get wild "Former players" forums!!! :)
     
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  14. vive le beau jeu !

    vive le beau jeu ! G.O.A.T.

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    so a post is like a tennis court... we can reserve it ! ;)
    first time i see that here...

    welcome back, tim !
     
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    Yes. Sorry about that. I'm working on some additional analysis and wanted it to come close to the top in this thread as I want to try to keep all the stats and ratings up to date.

    Thanks for the welcome back.

    Appreciated.

    Tim
     
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  16. Wuornos

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    I'm sure many people would have felt that Amélie Mauresmo position of 10th in the world in the current Performance Ratings was to high.

    I believe in these ratings and felt the quality of her results over a significant period are sufficient to justify this position above players who's sample volume of good results are smaller.

    Based upon this rating we would expect her to make at least 1 major quarter final by the end of 2009.

    Regards

    Tim
     
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    That is impressive!
     
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  18. PimpMyGame

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    Tim, it's good to see you back and on the mend. Keep posting the stats for us!
     
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    Me too. I think this looks rather impressive:

    Maureen Connolly 9 0 0 0
     
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    Thanks for the welcome back Pimp and Hoodjem.

    I understand why people are so impressed with Maureen Connolly's stats. She was completely dominant during her career.

    Unfortunately, the women's game was less competitive then with many players not travelling as much as they do today and missing various majors.

    The Performance Rating are sufficiently sophicticated to pick up on this in its analysis of the spread of the performance population and adjust the ratings accordingly.

    As a result this domination is sufficient to see Little Mo make it to 7th in the list of highest Performance Ratings since WWII. Had she achieved this in the 80s or 90s she would undoubtedly be the highest rated player of all time. Even if she achieved this now she would still achieve a higher rating than Martina who is the current #1. However, back in the 1950s The PF system calculates that winning majors was not quite so difficult and therefore the rating is lower than one might expect had all majors and all periods of tennis has similar standards of play.

    The reason I post this is because I hope it may help people undersatnd the complexity of the statstical analysis behind an output that at the end of the day produces just a single 4 digit number for each player.

    Regards

    Tim
     
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  21. Wuornos

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    Post #8 now shows the Performance Rating for the winner of each major for the pasat 10 years at the time when the won the tournament.

    The underlying trend would would seem to indicate a gradual improvement in the men's game over the past 10 years with no player with a current rating less than 2700 having won a major since the French Open of 2006.

    The opposite would seem to be true for the women's game. With 3 of the last 4 major winners having current ratings less than 2700 when winning their respective titles.

    Regards

    Tim
     
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  22. Benhur

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    Thanks for your painstaking work. It is much appreciated.

    You had previously done some studies applying the ELO system to tennis. Could you give us some comments on the main differences between your previous ELO work and the peak performance ratings?

    I believe that the ELO system in chess has a pretty high level of success in the probabilistic determination of the outcome of a given game between two players, based on their ELO rating. I wonder if you or anyone else has done any work in determining the match outcome probability between two tennis players based on their official ranking, which would give an indication of the validity of ranking systems.

    Anyway, I think your work is extremely valuable, and I am very grateful to you for undertaking these projects.
     
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  23. pc1

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    I understand ELO ratings from chess but this is somewhat flawed considering that Emerson I believe is around number five and Pancho Gonzalez is not in the top ten.

    Ashley Cooper was an excellent player but he had problems winning in the Pro Ranks and yet he is rated ahead of Rosewall, Hoad, Kramer and Gonzalez.

    And even the ELO ratings in chess are somewhat inaccurate since a player in the past could win a tournament and yet lose rating points if they didn't match the expected point total. However nowadays a player would not lose rating points if they win first place and yet did not match the expected point total.

    Very interesting work though.
     
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  24. Henry Kaspar

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    Four comments:

    First, this is fabulous and provides the type of information I've been looking for for a long time. Thank you.

    Second, I would like to second other posters that your orginal ELO ratings do still provide interest, even if your rating methodology improves on ELO -- simply because ELO is an established standard. Any chance you could revive these?

    Third, I'd be interested how the ratings (both Performance and ELO) look now after Nadal sat out Wimbledon and some other tournaments, and after Murray and Safina added several more good performances.

    Fourth, and as an afterthought, if you're interested in how non-standard-tennis ranking systems work in tennis, I've made an attempt to apply the sumo-ranking system to open era tennis. I started a little webpage to this effect (www.yokozunatennis.blogspot.com). The update for Wimbledon 09 is still missing but the career stats are probably anyway of more interest in this context.

    Cheers, and let me express my admiration for a fellow stats and rankings nerd

    HK
     
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    Great work Tim! How about some updated performance rankings for Nadal and Federer? I reckon Nadal dropped following his RG 2009 upset and Fed went up? When was the peak performance rating for Federer? What about Laver - was it 1969 or 1967? On another note, I find it extremely interesting that Safin and Nastase are next to each other - I always felt like they were similar.
     
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    The trouble isy, good stuff makes hunger for more -- would it be possible to add when exactly players reached their peak? Or, create end-year ratings (performance and/or ELO) and compare them with the ATP? Say, top 20?

    Cheers,
    HK
     
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  27. World Beater

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    your ratings have confirmed many of my suspicions! interesting stuff...
     
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    Wow that is an impressive list you have got going. I was impressed to see that my coach was ranked as high as he was (114), it atleast gives me sort of an excuse for continually getting worked by a 60 something year old
     
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    Tim,

    Im very happy to see you are back and got your health back.
    I really respect the amount of work you have put into these performance ratings. They may not please many of the historians but they are based on statistics and math so better than most biased ways of rating.
    Could I include your lists on my woodtennis.com/goat.htm ? I think your data would help to provide another view that would only help these difficult goat considerations.

    Thanks again,
    Joe
     
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  30. Wuornos

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    Updated to now include Wimbledon 2010. I have no idea what I was going to put in the reserve slots but I'll keep them as I'm sure I will remember at some point.

    I'm still working 75 hour weeks for those of you that were aware of my circumstances but at least I'm now able to keep up payments on my mortgage despite my redundancy in 2008.

    Take care all.

    Tim
     
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