Pete Sampras = class act

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  1. TheFifthSet

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    Not to butt in, but what does that have to do with anything? Sampras was a vastly superior player (nobody would deny that), so therefore Rafter is not qualified to question his conduct?

    I think Pete was an OK chap, BTW. Not an angel, but a good guy.
     
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  2. Azzurri

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    messing with TMF. I was pointing out their repsective h2h.
     
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  3. Gorecki

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    thanks buddy... i know i can always rely on good ol' Slapo...

    btw... dont waste your time debating with someone who call Federer by TMF... (the mighty Federer)

    it's definitely someone who is been skiping the medication...:)
     
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  4. TMF

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    I know it hurts but can you also handle the truth???
     
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  5. Gorecki

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    the truth? as in : It is true that you are one effin dork with no notion of what tennis is?

    yes.. i'm torn with such truth... in fact ill cry for a few minutes

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  6. Cesc Fabregas

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    Sampras apologised to Rafter for his comments about having 10 more slams, I've never heard Roger's apology to Nadal for his 1 dimensional comment.
     
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  7. TMF

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    And that's how TMF became the GOAT!!!

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  8. TMF

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    Federer said he's 1D a few years ago, which is true since Nadal was 1D since he can only win slam on clay. But did you hear him said he's 1D this year?

    Who are you trying to fool?
     
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  9. hoodjem

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    By doing TV commercials? Sorry but Fed is not the GOAT, and Sampras never was.
     
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  10. TMF

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    Yeah, but the Netjets commercial this year tells us a few things….

    1. Roger won a career slam
    2. Roger broke Pete’s 14 GS record
    3. Roger won slams in 3 different surfaces

    If Roger isn’t the goat, then who is?
     
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  11. Gorecki

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    yes my dear... tennis was invented before 2000!
     
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    No, No. Tennis was invented in 2003 when Rodg won his first slam at Wimbledon. Before that it was only sampras somebody . . . , and these guys were in diapers.

    Oh maybe someone who won slam tournaments 19 years apart, or someone who was world no. 1 for 8 years, or someone who led his country to 7 consecutive Davis Cup victories and won his national championship 6 times in a row, or someone who won 199 tournaments in his career and was world no. 1 for 7 straight years and won all slams on every surface on which it was played in a calendar year.
     
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    You guys don’t like Federer than just say so.

    I think what he’s accomplished in the modern day of sport is more remarkable than players in the past. Disagree all you want, but winning like 10 slams 30yrs ago is not as tough as it is today. Not even close.

    If I’m not mistaken, it’s been said all the players came from a total of 46 different countries competing in the 2009 USO. That speaks volume about the depth of talent we have on the tour.
     
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  14. World Beater

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    renshaw & doherty >>>>federer + sampras + lendl.

    Deal with it clowns!
     
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  15. TheFifthSet

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    Don't you guys, at some point, get tired of aruging who is GOAT?

    It's a fun exercise but a lot of it is just getting repeated ad nauseum.

    Too many compulsive raters on this forum, IMO.
     
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    I like, admire, and respect Fed a huge amount. I believe that what he has accomplished in tennis is undoubtedly remarkable. Does it make him the GOAT? Not IMO.

    from Tennis Week
    Who Is The Greatest Of All Time?
    by Andrew C. Smith
    Tuesday, September 29, 2000

    "So what then to make of the other argument, which looks at Federer’s record in Grand Slams? He has 15 Grand Slam singles titles, more than any other man in history, plus he has won on all four surfaces. If it were a simple matter of checking the record books and seeing who has won the most majors, the case would be closed. The record for most majors, by the way, is something that few people paid much attention to until Sampras emphasized it, by broadcasting that his goal (and measure of greatness?) was to surpass the record. The media picked up on it and has milked the concept ever since.

    But one wonders if Laver doesn’t bristle at this unfair accounting, for those who use Slam victories as the benchmark for greatness would likely be calling the Aussie the GOAT if he had played in Grand Slam events from ’63-’67. During that span Laver was between 25-29 years old, in his prime, dominating the pro tour, and missed 20 Grand Slam tournaments due to the ban on professionals playing in them. Had he competed during those years, a conservative estimate would give him, say, one victory per year. This gives him an additional 5 Grand Slam singles titles, which would bring his career total to 16. But it is by no means far-fetched to assume that he could have won 10 majors during that span, which would bring his total to 21.

    So for Federer to hold claim to the title of GOAT based on major titles, he would have to win, say, 18 at a minimum; equaling Steffi Graf’s 22 would be more convincing, especially given the depth of today’s global game. Until Federer reaches such totals, basing the argument for the GOAT on Grand Slam titles alone will remain unconvincing."
     
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  17. krosero

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    Unfair accounting in that article. Laver would not have won all of his first 6 Slam titles (the ones he took in 1960-62) if tennis had been open then.
     
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  18. krosero

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    And the author asks if Laver bristles over the accounting that puts Federer on top for his Slam titles, but you never get the sense that he does. He seems most self-confident and assured about his place in history.
     
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