Pete Sampras playing with a wood tennis racquet??!!

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  1. hyperwarrior

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  2. David L

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    I'm sure he'd still be a better player than all of them, even if there had been no developments in racket technology.
     
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    Should be "Pete Sampras serving with a wood racket"

    Good to see him hitting that same all time great serve with a woody. Im sure he could still hold most of his services. Too bad they did not show him hitting any groundies. Guess his serve was still so powerful with that woody that he did not even need to volley away any returns ;)

    Nice clips but a tease ... I want to see more. Whats the story ? Why was he serving with a woody ? Did he play any return games ?

    BTW, if there was a woody tournament tomorrow, Id seed Pete #1, Roger #2, and Johnny Mac #3. The answer to the posters question on how Pete would play against the greats of the 70s with wood is pretty much the same as with his ps60, he would dominate. It would be great to see him play Laver. Im sure it would be a SV duel.
     
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    Laver and Borg have already proven what THEY can do with a wood racket. Sampras and Federer have not though.

    In the same way, Sampras and Federer have displayed skill with modern frames, but now envision Laver and Borg growing up hitting with new frames from a young age AND playing in their primes with them.

    I think that mental exercise is quite illustrative.
     
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    I still find it odd that not a single clip of the Sampras - Agassi exhibition has been posted on youtube.
     
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    He was complaining about his racquet or something when a guy in the crowd said "Why dont you use mine?"...So Pete went up to him and said "Nah I got a better one" and pulled out the wood frame to play with. He played the game and held but then he switched back to his regular racquet for the rest of the match

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    Thank you for sharing. It appears that he can really serve well with that racket .. amazing.
     
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    It seems that he is serving a lot of doubles. I would assume, that he has to heavily reduce the pace of his second serve with wood, to stay in court. Also it shows on the second point, i think, that the forehand volley is a difficult stroke with wood. Sampras pops one simply into the net. With wood you have to guide your volley properly, play it with underspin, to get length. On the volley, the small wood rackets are much more unforgiving that the bigger graphite rackets. If you simply holds it in the way of the incoming ball, it will lifeless plop into the net.
     
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  9. helloworld

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    People don't realize how much heavier the ball today is compared to the 80s or 70s.
     
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    Any factual proof on that?
     
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    Thats funny that Sampras is playing with a wooden tennis racquet. If you think about the wooden racquet he's using is very similar to what he used during his playing days, the PS85. Both racquets have very similar characteristics.
     
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    thanks for the clip. An interesting experiment playing with wood against a modern racquet. Fun to watch.
     
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    yes, those guys are powerful. I haven't searched hard but it would be interesting to know how powerful.
     
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    I guess the "you" in youtube is no longer relevant -- not even a dodgy clip from a mobile phone has made it online.
     
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    Thats awesome and just proves how great the Sampras serve is. Pete did growup playing some woody tennis which some posters do not seem to realize. I dont think Federer played much wood but with his strokes, he would probaby not have much trouble getting use to a classic
     
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    Yes, todays game is about hitting extreme topspin and taking hugh low to high swings. The balls maybe "heavier" but bounce higher so that returners have more of a chance to run down and take another hugh return. Modern tennis is baseline blasting "heavy balls" with lighter stiffer rackets and poly string. I think Nadal was the most extreme and now the game is returning to flatter winners and more agressive allcourt play. Atleast on the hard courts.
     
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    lol. :) At least the doubles clip with harrison and the indian kid made it on there.
     
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    Looks like a Wilson Kramer Pro Staff 66 sq. in. I had one for years before switching to the PS 85 6.0 in the 80s.

    They don't play all that dissimilar in terms of flex and feel, but the PS 85 does allow a lot more power and a lot less vibration.

    And a lot better serving: watch how many service faults Sampras has.
     
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  20. borg number one

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    Thanks for the links Thor's Hammer. That court/facility looks very sharp and Sampras/Agassi look as if they are still hitting some very clean shots.

    Hoodjem, that's excellent analysis of the differences in frames as you're speaking from PERSONAL experience.
     
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    Yep. No proof, just fallible memory.
     
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    I have played with 70s balls before. They are extremely light and quick. The balls today are very heavy, making volleying exceptionally difficult.
     
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    Any differences in tennis balls over time are more difficult for me to discern vs. the changes in racquet technology.


    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tennis_ball (wikipedia on the tennis ball)

    http://wings.avkids.com/Tennis/Book/ball-01.html

    http://www.itftennis.com/technical/rules/history/ (ITF tennis ball history)

    From the above, tennis balls look to be about the same weight now as they've always been (about 56-59 grams from 1965 to today), but they seem to use different types of balls in terms of bounce depending on the Surface nowadays. I'm not certain of what they did say in 1965 as to "bounce", though weight seems to have stayed about the same. Perhaps an expert on the history of tennis balls can shed more light on this issue. I'll have to look into it more closely to have a better informed opinion.
     
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    I assume you read this somehwere...but what do you mean similiar?
     
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    This person you quote has no idea what they're talking about again and again.

    Its painful to witness and saddens me to no end to think people new to tennis may take his advice or believe what hes saying.

    Absolutely devastated.

    [​IMG]
     
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    isn't it? he never, ever played a wood racquet and Pro staff. While the PS 85 has a solid feel like wood, it shares less characteristics. I think he reads all sorts of stuff, gets evrything mingled in his head and literally (by use of a keyboard) throws up his information on the forum...none of it makes sense.

    you should see his facebook page...:shock:
     
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    To say a PS85 is similar to a wood Jack Kramer Prostaff is like saying sex with a man feels the same as sex with a woman.
     
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  30. borg number one

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    ^^^^LOL! JoelDali, now that's funny and a PROFOUND way of putting it, with the caveat that most folks that have played with both frames have NOT also had such varied experiences when it comes to love making. I'd agree 100%.
     
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  31. JoelDali

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    Glad you liked it.

    I for one, am shocked at what I wrote yesterday.

    Pretty gross.

    [​IMG]
     
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