Plantar Fasciitis and footwear

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  1. kennydoe

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    Is anybody else dealing with PF that resists all treatment?

    I'm suffering for months now. It seemed to come about shortly after I bought a pair of KSwiss shoes with the 60-day warranty. My podiatrist suggested maybe the more durable sole was less flexible and caused the problem. I wore Kswiss for years and was very happy with them, but my first "60-day warranty" pair coincided with the beginning of the problem. Maybe a coincidence, maybe not.

    I have since switched to Wilson (for hard court shoes), but the problems haven't dissipated.

    I have orthotics, and have always had them, going back before the injury.
    On a couple of occasions I have taken 2-3 weeks off the court (waah!), but have seen little improvement.

    I've used "the boot", stretching everyday, acupuncture, oils, physical therapy, heat (before), ice (after and between) and now I'm having a chiropractor work on my pelvis to work out any possible pelvic misalignment that might be causing it.

    I eat a super-clean diet and avoid pharmaceuticals as much as possible.
    Injecting cortisone into my system is a revolting thought for me.

    Any input (or sympathy) is welcome. Please share!
    Thanks
    Kenny

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    3.5-4.0 competitive player, played 4-5x a week before the injury. Fell back to 1-2x a week after the injury before stopping altogether for 3 weeks. Mix of hard courts and har-tru 65/35
     
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  2. hcb0804

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    Never heard of a 60 day warranty. 6 month warranty, yes. 60 day warranty, no. What K Swiss shoe was this?
     
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  3. kennydoe

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    D'oh! I mean 6 month sold warranty. Good catch.
     
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  4. FlameYo

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    Do you stretch your Plantar/Feet in the 12,3,9,1,11 o'clock direction?

    Most foot stretches only show you the linear 12 o'clock against a wall or steps. For tennis, the 3,9,1,11 o'c works better. This is due to side-to-side and diagonal movements on the court. Look for more tennis specific stretches from the USTA and etc. since general stretches is very ineffective for sport like tennis.
     
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  5. kennydoe

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    Interesting...part of my stretching regimen is "pumps and circles", which includes the other o'clocks you mentioned.
     
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  6. Vlad_C

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    I've had the same problem for the past 3 months. I do not think mine is shoe-related, as it is only in the left foot. It started after a pretty intense match I played in which I ran a lot. I did not notice anything at the time, but in the afternoon my heel was in pain, and it continued ever since.

    Now I spend most of my tennis time hitting the wall, since any running around the court makes it a lot worse.

    I also did all the stretches that I've seen online, but they did not help, so I kind of gave up on that. Like you, I also stayed off the court for about 3 weeks, not so much because I wanted to, but because the weather here in Vancouver totally sucked recently. Anyway, no significant improvement for my heel.

    Icing the sole helps, but it is only temporary. I use one of those bags with blue gel that you can freeze, they are much better than ice itself as they remain flexible and mold to the shape of the sole. I also use a 500ml bottle of water, frozen solid, and roll my foot over it. It really helps.

    I kind of doubt that a pelvic misalignment could be the cause of PF. I would expect it is more likely the other way around. Stepping the wrong way, in order to avoid putting weight on the painful heel, would definitely cause hip and back problems over the long term.

    Anyway, this has been going on for 3 months in my case, and it is very frustrating. At this point I am thinking of getting an x-ray, just to see if there is anything out of place in the foot that may be causing the problem.
     
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  7. WildVolley

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    Take my story for what it is, just a single example. I didn't have severe PF, but I was getting the traditional symptoms and my heels ached a lot. I switched shoes, did stretching, and iced my heel. Once the pain started to diminish, I did what you're not supposed to do and went barefoot as much as I could. My feet definitely strengthened, and now I've been a couple years without any of the symptoms coming back.

    Unless your foot is very standard, I think that a mismatch between foot shape and shoes can make things worse. So switch shoes and seriously consider trying the foot strengthening if nothing else is working.
     
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  8. SwankPeRFection

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    If your shoes are too small, you'll get it. Remember that your feet swell during hard footwork over your play time. You can't wear shoes that are snug when you normally try them on.
     
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  9. brownbearfalling

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    In my experience, Although PF may only act up during tennis it may not be entirely "caused" by your tennis shoes and playing tennis. It might actually caused from other aspects of your daily routine such as your casual foot wear (converse chuck Taylor, toms and other unpadded shoes are horrible) or occupational foot wear (tough boots) or your occupation (standing 8+ hours a day).

    I've had spurts of PF and for me it only occurs when I'm excessively walking in unpadded shoes and beach slippers. Then when I out on my tennis shoes, it feels better. Barricades and Nike court ballistics have done a pretty good job for me.

    But it sounds like you have already tried everything to cure your heels. I sympathize with you greatly and hope you can get back to tennis soon.
     
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  10. kennydoe

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    Thanks for your replies (and sympathy), everybody!

    Was at the chiro today -- she beat me up pretty good!
    She's finding my quads are especially tight, and my pelvis is "unbalanced".

    I had a USTA match last night, and a teammate told me he got thru it with Reflexology -- chinese foot massage. Here in NY there have been lots of these places popping up all over. It's not terribly expensive, and he said 2-3x/week over a couple of months and he's been pain free.

    I'll report back here with any good or bad results.

    Funny part is that despite my injuries, I'm having an excellent USTA season. Last year at this time, uninjured, I was 0-4-1. This year I'm 7-0.

    Maybe I shouldn't be so eager to heal! :-s
     
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    I found mime which still hurts gets worse as my calf & achilles gets tighter. I bought a small round pvc pipe to carry onto the court and roll my calf & achilles at changeovers. This has helped tremendously!

    Of course, I've since broken my other foot; the good non-PF foot. So now, I'm hopping and crutching around w/ all my weight on my PF foot and it's awful! After this, PF will feel like a mild headache.
     
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  12. kennydoe

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    You sir, have NO luck!

    :-(
     
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  13. ctromano

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    stretch the feet
     
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  14. tlimster

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    I had PF for a year and visited a podiatrist who also recommends shoes for a specialty shop. Last year, she was ironically recommending the K Swiss Big Shot, and the Asics Gel Resolution, both a half size larger and both with orthotics. Either shoe works for me, and I actually rotate hem. Overall though the Asics fit me better because they have better grip on hard courts. If you have the option to play exclusively HarTru then I'd recommend that. If nothing else works the. A cortisone shot, but I was warned it hurts like a mother.
     
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  15. Arthuro

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    Had pf in both feet. It is important to stretch the feet, but the most important thing to do is stretch the calfs. Trust me, if you wake up in the morning with pf, do some calf pumps then some serious calf stretching...it will clear up almost within the first or second stretch. Do this for a month or so and you should be fine.
     
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  16. Wilander Fan

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    Developed a terrible case of this from driving manual transmission in bad traffic for years. It lasted for years and was one of the things that kept me out of tennis for so long. You know what helped? I went along with my wife for a reflexology/footmassage session and the feel of relief was immediate. I went back once or twice a year and it the plantars was more or less gone after that. Then I first went, they did alot of pressure poking on the heel and that really seemed to ease the condition alot. Later as the condition eased, they did less and less of the pressure poking on the heel and focused on other things like the arch which was not really related to the plantars as I understand. Anyway, I never mentioned the plantars (language barrier) but they seemed to see the problem right away. I know it sounds a bit like nonsense but it really worked for me.
     
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    I know you said you don't want to take drugs but i was prescribed Indocin along with orthotics and it worked.
     
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    ^^^
    This. But the quality of reflexology/foot massage varies. You really need to find someone who knows what he/she is doing.
     
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  21. paulfreda

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    I tried everything to cure my plantar faciitis several years ago, but nothing worked.

    Then I thought about it for a while and realized the best thing for my feet would be if somehow they could walk on pillows.
    So I started stuffing Dr Scholls pads inside and quickly the shoe became to tight. So I bought some tennis shoes that were 2 sizes larger than my normal size and in the wide version, 2E.
    Presto, with several Dr Scholls pads inside it felt great and my PF was gone for good.

    It took a bit of getting used to these big things on my feet but in the end the problem was mostly in my head.

    Hope this helps someone.
     
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  22. hcb0804

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    You coulda just got some Superfeet replacement insoles for your right sized shoes. They work amazingly well.
     
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    YES! I did this for my soccer boots as well. all Dr Scholls did was weigh down your shoes like cement blocks.
     
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    Never heard of Superfeet.
    Thanks
    I will try them out.
    But I doubt they will feel as good as several gel soles.
    We'll see
     
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    Just got copper superfeet and they're so comfortable.
     
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  26. JGads

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    I had PF. Podiatrist taped up my foot for about a month to immobilize it during the worst of it, and recommended Superfeet, and I'm a total Superfeet loyal now. I wear the blues in my casual shoes and the more padded orange ones in my tennis shoes.

    The key to preventing PF is a certain solidity/rigidity to the sole and arch of your foot, NOT over cushioning/padding as so many insoles offer. Over-cushioning can lead to foot problems. Podiatrist said that, and a lot of my own research as well as the fact that I haven't had a recurrence of PF with the Superfeet. (I was using more cushioned insoles before). My two cents.
     
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