Plantar fasciitis

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  1. danno123

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    I've had it for a while now but managed it ok. A couple of weeks ago, my kids wanted to go to a water park and I spent about 5 hours barefoot walking around on concrete and carrying my 3 year old and that did me in. I searched the threads and got some superfeet green inserts because I have high arches. I've been limiting my tennis and trying to lose a little weight (I'm 6'1" and 185 so I'm not terribly overweight but I could stand to lose a few pounds). Still, progress and healing have been slow.

    Yesterday, I did some googling and saw a youtube video about using "myofascial release" to help with plantar fasciitis. Essentially, they recommended that I put a tennis ball under my foot, put some weight on it and roll it around until I find a tender spot and work that spot with the ball for a while.

    I was skeptical but I tried it. It hurt like hell while I was doing it but afterwards my foot felt much better. Today my foot feels better than it has in weeks. It's not 100% but I think there might be something to this.
     
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    thanks danno
    I'm going to have to try that out
     
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  3. JoelDali

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    Its all in the shoes.

    Stop wearing flip flops if you do.

    I suffered terribly the past 1.5 years and I finally laid all blame on the CB 2.3

    Now I'm wearing CB 3.3 with Thorlo L3 and my feet are fine.

    I used to limp after 2 sets. Could barely walk. Seriously.

    Now I can play 3 sets and not suffer at all.

    Its all about the shoes.

    My feet still have occasional soreness but nothing nearly as bad as it was.

    Try the Thorlo L3. They make a huge difference.
     
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  4. dozu

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    danno i posted in another thread about stretching... have u tried?
     
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    stretching is very important but i agree with Joel, its all about what shoes your wearing and how much arch support they give u

    i had this problem for bat 1.5 years, and then started using orthotics that my doctor kind of customized for me and never had the problem again
     
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  6. danno123

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    Yes. I've done mild stretching but I can't do much stretching of my calves or foot right now because it feels like I'm injuring my foot when I do it. Unlike the pain that happens when I use the tennis ball on my foot, my foot pain doesn't seem to go away after stretching. I think stretching will be more important after I've healed a little more.
     
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  7. Carolina Racquet

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    Danno... what shoes are you currently using? I've found insoles didn't help me as much until I changed to a shoe that not only had the right fit, but also the right flex.

    My previous shoe was way to flexible in the sole. I went to the ASICs Gel Res 2 and I quickly felt relief. I'm now a huge ASICs fan because they are extremely comfortable.
     
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  8. dak95_00

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    Golf balls are also good. I've also filled old gatorade bottles half way, froze them, and used that to roll under my feet.

    However, the BEST METHOD is to sit down w/ a bent knee into your ribs, barefoot, and pull your toes back as far as you can and just hold it for as long as you can. No matter what you want to think, it is caused by an inflexible tendons that connect from your calf to your toes. Insoles will help but custom orthotics are the best. PULL THOSE TOES! I suffered for nearly 4 years and I am just now after 2 years "better" sometimes participating in basketball and tennis w/o my orthotics.

    I have done it all! PULL THOSE TOES!
     
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  9. SteveI

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    I have had a very bad case in the past.. and this stuff all works. Do a search and you will find on this site.. a ton of great advice.

    BTW.. Bingo!!! "No matter what you want to think, it is caused by an inflexible tendons that connect from your calf to your toes."
     
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  10. SteveI

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    Try these threads

    http://tt.tennis-warehouse.com/showthread.php?t=343865&highlight=Plantar+fasciitis

    http://tt.tennis-warehouse.com/showthread.php?t=350691&highlight=Plantar+fasciitis

    http://tt.tennis-warehouse.com/showthread.php?t=356540&highlight=Plantar+fasciitis
     
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  11. TennisCoachFLA

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    This worked for me too. The initial cause is tightness in the calf muscle and the tendon as you mentioned. Proper stretching for the calves and the toe pulls you have described will prevent and treat the problem.
     
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  12. Mike Hodge

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    All of the stuff that's been mentioned is good.

    1) Buy a pro stretch and use it. Straight leg and bent knee. Several times a day.

    2) Get some marbles. Lay them on the ground. Grab a jar. Pick up each marble with your toes. Put the marble in the jar. Repeat. IMO, this helps strengthen the muscles in the feet. I know it helps me.

    3) Ankle rolls with resistance band and/or ankle weights.

    4) Toe/calf raises.

    There's not a universal solution. Try some of the stuff and see what works, although, IMO, the pro stretch offers the most potential impact.
     
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  13. SteveI

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    I got a Slant Board...That really made the biggest impact in my case. Works like a Stair Stretch.
     
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    I've gone from being having feet so sore that I had a hard time walking in the morning to being fine by doing nothing other than doing a strict routine of stretching. I do it twice during the day at work and then for about 10 mins before I go to bed.

    I do: standing 'normal' calf stretches (gastrocnemius and soleus), Achilles tendon stretches, sitting calf stretches with band or yoga Down Dog position stretching (keeping heels on the floor) and then foot stretches - where you bend the toes up using your hand and pull the foot up (to stretch the plantar tendon).

    It literally took about a week to start working and has been a godsend. From the stuff I've read and people I've spoken to who've suffered similar calf stretching is a key inclusion in dealing with plantar fasciitis.
     
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  15. TennisCoachFLA

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    Wow, I do pretty much the same exact routine! Same deal, went from years of struggling with bouts of pain to total relief.
     
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  16. PED

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    Wow, I saw this post yesterday and tried it.

    I can't believe how effective it is to simple stretch that tendon by pulling the toes. This really helped me out and I've had foot pain for the last six months.

    Thanks for the great advice.
     
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  17. SteveI

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    Makes a big impact since you are helping not to tear the plantar tendon each time you get out of bed.. or out of chair. Helps to heal... Wearing shoes all the time when you are trying to heal really is also key. You would think going without shoes is the way to go.. but it is quite the opposite. Wear a solid shoe with very little flex all the time while you are trying to heal. Really works!
     
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    Two things helped my (minor) case:

    1) light stretching when i wake up, before stepping out of bed. Don't wanna tear those tendons.

    2) massage. Deep tissue. Use a tennis ball, golf ball, or your own hands/fingers. Find the spot that hurts and press it for a bit. Start easy and get progressively harder.

    Then I guess we can add 3) finding the right shoes/insoles.
     
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  19. GuyClinch

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    I have this problem too. I have very expensive orthoics from my Doc and these make the problem worse not better.

    Is there a video of the pull your toes stretch? How is the leg of the stretched foot supposed to be oriented?

    I'd also love to hear feedback about the best tennis shoes. I want to buy a new pair for the season and have no idea which one to get.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dMosf1HBWg8

    Is that the stretch the poster means?

    Pete
     
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  20. dak95_00

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    I'm glad I could help. I went through PF and didn't even know what it was at first. I had it for 3 years and it sucked. I tried everything and read everything.

    Custom insoles from my chiropracter friend for $15 and pulling the toes were the most effective.

    I got it from improper stretching after running and training for a marathon. I then had to take nearly 3 years off of running and now I'm back. I ran a 1/2 marathon last fall and I haven't had any pain nearly 6 years after the first occurence. I even wear normal insoles when I play tennis and when I'm at work and standing on me feet for hours at a time. I still stretch and usually do it the most when I get home and I'm reading the posts on TT. I also agree w/ the downward dog stretch as I do it when I'm doing the YOGA X part of P90X!
     
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    That's THE stretch! I do it while sitting at the computer. I also pull harder and hold for as long as I can take it. Do it! You'll feel the difference. Also, don't give up on your orthotics. They take a while for you to get used to. You are suppose to build up to wearing them by just wearing them for an hour a day for the first week and then two hours the next week, etc. Don't be afraid to increase those times. Your doctor or whoever sold them to you should've said so. Your feet WILL eventually thank you!
     
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  22. jchamilt

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    Get custom orthotics for your tennis shoes. They solved my problem and I heard that 95% of the pros ware them.
     
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  23. Rob1

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    My Method

    I got Plantar 3 weeks ago.
    This is the first time in 2 1/2 years.
    I think it is a weight thing as both times I was overweight when it occurred.

    I was in sevre pain 2 weeks ago and now more on the sore mode.

    I think you need to stop playing for 2 weeks and rest.
    Stretch 4 times a day.
    Ice with a frozen water bottle and roll it.
    Roll a Tennis Ball 4 times a day.
    Do Yoga or Pilates.
    I use Superfeet insoles.
    I have been using New Balance Wide Shoes.
    Get the weight off your body.


    I hear Night Splinters and Ultrasound helps for those in a prolong condition.
    See MendMeShop.com
     
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  24. LeeD

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    Thanks for the vid, will try.
    I love it when they post the vids, and the girl obviously has no foot problems.
    Just like the skincare stuff they sell, and the model is 16 years old.
    Sorta like the haircare models, the before's look better than the afters.
     
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  25. pdx_tennisplayer

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    Dak95:

    Thanks for the tip! It solved my PF (along with some inserts into my NB 655).

    Now onto my shoulder issues (another thread)!
     
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  26. GuyClinch

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    What inserts you get? I was thinking about getting the NB 1004s - because the PF 804's are supposedly bad this year.

    My PF is okay right now but it usually ton worse when I play. It makes me scared to play..and tennis season is starting up around here. I usually play once or twice a week in the winter but decided not too because of my PF. But it is still here. :(
     
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  27. PED

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    I'd never suffered from PF until last year. The toe stretches on here cured me along with a change of shoes. I run a good bit and switched last year to the Nike Free's-bad move for me. The "barefoot" style shoe just doesn't work for me. I moved by to my Mizuno's and am good to go.

    These toe stretches were a god send though :)
     
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  28. jdubbs

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    Hey guys, thanks for the tip on "stretching the toes"

    I've had PF on and off for the past few weeks, and last night it hurt again after 2 hours on the court. Concentrated on calf stretches and "pulling" the toes, and pain was gone, amazing!

    Have my bag with me today so going to take a tennis ball out and keep working on it.

    Great tips! Didn't even need the advil.
     
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  29. Rob1

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    Updated for Severe Cases

    Get custom othotics.
    Get new shoes with a good heal support.
    Ice 20 minutes X 5 times a day
    Walk hardly at all.
    No bare foot
    Strestch calves and foot 5 times a day.
    exercise using bike or swim
    Night Slpint
    Take 2-3 from Tennis and you should be fine.
     
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    Stretching the Arch

    Another version of the arch stretch involves standing next to a wall (or the net post) with you toes about 4-5 inches up the wall and and pressing the arch towards the wall. When I had PF this was one of the most helpful excercises, was easy to do and it felt great.
     
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  31. GuyClinch

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    For me personally any type of arch stretch seems to exacerbate the problem. I have heard that the tendon is actually naturally pretty inflexible.. I have tried both the toe stretch and the wall one suggested - and my pain increased.

    I get better results stretching my calf and hamstring - but PF is pretty bad I guess. I have custom insoles - have had cortisone shots.

    I was getting pretty good results from stretching and nightsplint.. But I swear my nightsplint has stopped working. I think I need to try a more aggressive one..

    I guess I have to see a doctor again though - maybe my first one sucked. I am jealous because everyone here seems to easily conquer this thing..
     
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  32. SteveI

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    Get rid of the NB 655.. and keep the insoles. The NB shoe gave me the PF.. The only shoe that ever gave me PF. I tossed those shoes. The heel and arch support blow!!!
     
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  33. BounceHitBounceHit

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    And now for me! Good advice gang. ;)

    BTW, TCF-would you happen to know my good friend I.D. who used to coach the Gators? Best, BHBH
     
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  34. BounceHitBounceHit

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    What's a Pro Stretch? Where do you purchase one? Thanks in advance, BHBH
     
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    ProStretch

    When I was going for Physical Therapy for achilles and plantar issues, they had me use one. When I saw that it was helping me, my Physical Therapist actually sold me one. You can buy them directly from the vendor at prostretch dot com. From time to time, I still use it for relief or for extra stretching before I go out to play.
     
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  36. BounceHitBounceHit

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    Thanks! I will check it out. Best, CC
     
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  37. Ronaldo

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    Try a pair of Crocs to use around the house in place of slippers, flip-flops, barefootin', whatever. Soft and has a sweet arch support. Had PF so bad had three cortisone shots 10 yrs ago. Pain-free now unless I wear the wrong insole.
     
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    Some Considerations on Plantar Fasciitis

    I had plantar fasciitis and tried to play with it. It slowly got worse over about a year. I did not see a doctor. I read that tendons and similar tissues take 3-6 months to heal. I finally took off from tennis for 3 months. The PF went away. A friend of mine had a similar experience and took off for a year.

    Along the way, I read about many of the other subjects mentioned in this thread.

    I tend to read and then make up a story that makes sense to me. I have been very wrong before so check out any of my opinions independently. ……..one mistake could be a show stopper……..

    The term “plantar fascia” as used here means all muscles, tendons, fascia, etc, on the bottom of the foot – This structure has not been clearly defined in what I have read.

    As discussed on the websites one main cause of plantar fasciitis is tight & short calf muscles. The calves connect to the heel through the Achilles and the heel connects to the plantar fascia - all in one chain. There are two calf muscles, the gastrocnemius and the soleus. Both the gastrocnemius and soleus connect through the same tendon to the heel, the Achilles (also another potential injury spot if the calves are tight).

    Bent Knee or Straight Knee? An important point is that the gastrocnemius connects to the bone above the knee. When the knee is semi-straight the gastrocnemius contributes a lot of force but as soon as the knee is bent a little the gastrocnemius becomes slack and contributes much less force. The soleus is connected below the knee and can apply force through the heel whether the knee is straight or bent. Only the soleus works when seated.

    During Tennis Gastrocnemius or Soleus? During tennis which of the two calf muscles is causing the most strain on the Achilles and plantar fascia? I don’t know and have not seen it discussed. On one hand maybe some very stressful straight-leg move such as changing direction while coming down might be the most damaging. ? On the other hand it seems that tennis is being played mostly with a bent knee. Therefore it seems reasonable that the soleus might be the muscle most often causing too much strain on the plantar fascia. ?

    Life Style. Most people spend a great deal of time with the calf in a much shortened state: sitting at the computer with bent knees and pointed toes (pointed toes = short calf muscles), watching TV with pointed toes, sleeping with pointed toes, etc. Sitting around, sleeping, etc. for 120 hours a week and then playing tennis for 8 hours a week sets up the problem. If the calves have become too short or tight during tennis they overstretch the plantar fascia and put excess strain on it.

    Strengthening Exercises. Exercise both calf muscles with straight leg calf raises. Exercise only the soleus with seated calf raises.

    General Stretching. 1) I have read that you should warm up the muscle before stretching. That is easy to do for calves, run a little or do calf raises on steps. 2) Also, that you should not stretch when injured……….this is problematic for most tennis players because they don’t want to quit………..?

    Calf stretching
    – There are straight knee stretches for both gastrocnemius and soleus. There are bent knee stretches for just the soleus. My favorite bent knee soleus stretch is - while seated - to place a thick telephone book under the front of my foot, heel off the floor, cross the other leg over for a little added weight and do a gentle stretch. After a warm up, this stretch is easy to do while watching TV.

    If you only do straight knee stretches and the gastrocnemius is tight does the soleus get a useful stretch?

    Night Issues- You play tennis and afterward the PF hurts more or less. You go to bed and point your toes for some hours. During sleep healing occurs. The calves and plantar fascia are in a shortened state. You wake up and get out of bed, ouch! I speculate that your tight calves are tearing up some of the new healing of a short plantar fascia. ?? Help, Doc. (Mine would hurt for a minute or two just in front of my heel.) Night splints stretch both your calf and the plantar fascia so that any healing is done with the plantar is more elongated.
     
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  39. kelawai

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    I have the same problem a few years back. Wasted so much on cheap shoes cushion until I get a pair of Superfeet Green and 2 pairs Sof Sole Orange I think it call Stability. After 3-4 months PF is gone. Never regret to pay a little more to get rid of the pain. Superfeet still in good shape after 3 years. I am athletic but Sof Sole is comfortable but only last about a year. Happy customer with 1 Superfeet and 3 Sof Sole for every sneakers.
     
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    I got PF about 18 months ago...it was really painful at first, the pain came out of nowhere one day (at first I thought I had a nail in my shoe!). The pain in the morning was in 8 or 9 (out of 10) range. It was really bad for about 4-5 months.

    I tried all those quick solutions: insoles for my shoes, night splints...nothing worked until I started doing calf stretching exercises. That reduced pain down to 6.

    Then I started doing P90X and Yoga as the part of it...and I couldn't imagine a relief in my calf (and heel) after doing downward dog position. After several sessions of Yoga X, my pain went down to 2 or 3. I rarely get the pain after cooling down after playing tennis, and I used to be in a lot of pain before it...

    I hope that this helps someone, it's one of the most annoying chronic issues out there!
     
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  41. Chas Tennis

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    Is "downward dog position" a straight knee or bent knee strectch?

    Is this the downward dog position that you are referring to?

    http://www.yogajournal.com/poses/491

    I have been interested in the fact that the calf has two muscles and straight leg stretches may not be effective for the Soleus. I think it would depend on which calf muscle, the Soleus or Gastrocnemius, is tight (too short).
     
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    yes, that's the position!
     
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  43. Mike Hodge

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    The company that makes the Pro Stretch is called medidyne. Do a search on the internet or Youtube and you should be good to go.
     
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    I've also gone back to using the Strassburg sock, which serves as a soft night splint of sorts to keep the foot stretched. First time I tried it I didn't like it, too uncomfortable; I think I pulled it too tight.
     
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  45. got spin?

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    go to an orthopedist and he gave me some heel elevators for my problem, also compression in anyway numbs the pain. How you get compression is up to you, I used a tight ankle brace (non ASO) I used a Mueller that you get from CVS or any pharmacy
     
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    Plantar Cures

    I had Plantar for 5 months and injured it 3 times.
    My injury was more in the middle towards the outer right foot.
    It took me 5 months to discover this.
    When it is in the heal, it is an easier solution.

    You have to get good cushion shoes like Prince 22 brand.
    Get custom orthodotics from Road Runner Sports.
    Get a Boot to sleep at night with.
    Calf Stretches 5 times a day.
    Get Heel Seats to use as your playing tennis then.
    Ice after you play.
    Get some weight off so it won't pressure your feet then.
     
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  47. BobaFet

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    So what shoes are you guys using? I have a wide foot and average arch height.
     
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    that is same as my foot. i have $400 custom orthotic from my podiatrist. you can get something similar from mail order, i think. but the custom orthotic is the only thing that had helped me. i tried everything else.
     
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  49. BobaFet

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    So the orthotic improved your symptoms? I saw some insoles that cook in the oven and then mold to your foot shape. Is that a similar idea to the custom ones made by a foot specialist?

    Also, I just wondering if my foot pain is from the shoe or the fact that I need better insoles. Maybe both?

    Fed...what shoe are u using?
     
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  50. Fedace

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    I wear Yonex SHT 307 and or Nike 2K10. I am saying that orthotic actually Cured my PF. I have virtually NO pain now. before the orthotic, I had trouble walking straight. and Not just after i have been with my girlfriend.
    so this orthotic is Better than the pain killer. It Cures your PF:)
     
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