Play-test tension to allow you to recommend strings

Discussion in 'Stringing Techniques / Stringing Machines' started by Dags, Nov 8, 2010.

  1. Dags

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    I'm going to thinly veil this question as a 'stringing technique' as I would prefer it were answered by the posters on this sub-forum rather than in the 'strings' section...

    I've been trying out various string set ups for a couple of years now, partly to find out what's right for me and partly because I want to experience a number of different strings in order to best advise any customers. I have gravitated towards poly mains at 40lbs, with syn gut crosses at 44lbs.

    Whilst I'm pretty happy with this, the one type of string I have yet to try is natural gut (actually, that's a lie - I haven't tried kevlar, but I don't really have any desire to do so). Clearly, if I'm to have well-rounded knowledge then I need to hit with it, so I ordered a couple of sets of VS today. First off, I will be putting half a set in a poly mains/gut crosses setup, and I intend to stay with the 40/44 lbs tension so I can compare it directly to the other combinations I've been using of late. In another racquet I would like to use a full bed of gut so that I can play them side by side.

    Any advice on what tension to use for the full bed? I have two goals: to determine if I like gut so much I wish to use it as my own string, and to experience how gut plays so that I can discuss with customers who ask me for my opinion on it. Are there any 'rules of thumb' to consider when stringing gut, i.e. is there any consensus that it would usually be strung at a higher/lower tension than other strings in the same way that polys are usually strung at a lower tension than softer strings?
     
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  2. Gamma Tech

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    sorry can't help you out but like your line of thinking.
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  3. Nellie

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    If you don't pre-stretch, I like gut at about 5% more than a soft multi-filiment, 10% more than a polyester string (so about 48 for your all gut racquet) because gut stretches so much after stringing.
     
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  4. jim e

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    Nat. gut responds real well at high tensions. Not only myself,but the majority of my clients like all nat. gut strung in the low to mid 60's. Check around enough and you will get responses all over the place. Sampras had his strung in the 70's.
    My own racquets, I have 64 lbs. for my OS racquets, and 61 lbs. for the MP racquets.Its more of a preference thing, as no one way fits all players.You should try different tensions until you know whats right for your game.
     
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  5. Kevo

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    I've never been able to string Nat Gut high enough for me. I can play with poly at 50lbs, even lower is OK, but 50lbs seems to be the sweet spot for me.

    I've strung several different Nat Guts as high as 65lbs, and I've always wanted it higher. 65lbs. was actually pretty sweet with Klip gut, but after an hour it loosened up and I wished I had strung it higher still. It really feels great though even at high tension. It's completely unique in that regard compared to synthetic strings.

    If it wasn't such a waste of dough, I'd probably be happy to play with it at 70 or 75lbs. Especially a thin gauge. I can't afford it though and I'm pretty happy with poly at 50lbs.
     
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  6. Irvin

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    I am not so sure I would agree with Gamma Tech completely on this one. I am not a big fan of hybriding a multi with poly especially when the poly is in the main strings. The multi will not last long if you hit with much spin. The mains are going to give you the most of what you are feeling so the gut won't make that much difference.

    If you are going to hybrid gut and another string why not put the gut in the mains where it delivers the most feel? Unless of course you think some multi is better than the expensive gut you are trying.

    Oh and by the way if you have already tried stringing a multi hybrid in a soft stringbed being used to poly you have already experienced what it feels like to hit balls against the fence.

    But your idea of trying different setups is a good one.

    Irvin
     
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  7. tennis4josh

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    I am not a big expert in different string setups, but I have been playing with global natural gut for more than a year. For me the right tension for gut was about 10% higher than my favorite multi setup, and poly was at least 10% lower than the multi setup. This is what folks have been recommending on these forums.
     
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  8. Dags

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    Just what I was hoping for: considered responses from posters I recognise and have grown to trust, who not only make recommendations but give reasons for them. Thanks guys.

    You may have noticed that there's still half a set unaccounted for, and no prizes for guessing where that's going ;-). I will still be trying gut in the crosses first up, as poly in the mains is what I'm most used to and I think it will give me valuable information.
     
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  9. Dags

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    This, I fully agree with. I was mainly looking for a guide so I don't get it horribly wrong from the off. Due to the cost I may not be playing around with gut too much, so I'm hoping for a reasonably accurate idea of what the string can offer first time out. Fortunately, consensus here is to go higher, and so I am reasonably confident that I can achieve my goals. That's community at work!
     
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  10. jim e

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    A decent guide I would recommend,(does not fit everyone), would be to go up aprox. 10% over a syn.gut tension normally used,and tweek it from there. This works for many,but as I said not all, but is a general guide to start.Most of my gut users fit this category.I know some others here will not agree with this, but as I said fits many players but not all.You can safely start from this general guide.
     
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  11. Gamma Tech

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    that is what i meant to say.
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