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  1. walton123

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    If score is 6-4 set one and 4-2 set two then player(this player lost set 1 and is losing in set 2) walks off in huff, I know they "default" but what do scores become? 6-0, 6-0 or is it just logged as default against player that walked and points played in "good faith" stand - can't seem to get an answer on rule sheet on how this is recorded.........help. THANKS!
     
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  2. woodrow1029

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    The score would be 6-4, 4-2 (retire) if it's a league match, and 6-4, 4-2 (default, refusal to play) in a tournament match.
     
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  3. woodrow1029

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  4. walton123

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    thank you........

    who puts the code in tennislink?
     
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  5. woodrow1029

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    Leagues or Tournaments?
     
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    If it's for leagues, I don't really know anything about leagues and who enters what into TennisLink. There may also be different rules in your league as to how defaults/retirements/etc. are recorded, so while in the USTA rulebook it would be recorded as I stated above, you may want to double check the league rules to verify that is actually correct.

    If your question is for tournaments, either the referee or the tournament director would enter it into TennisLink.
     
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  7. goober

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    In league tennis usually the winning captain enters the scores. The other captain is suppose to confirm. Generally if you don't say anything it automatically becomes "confirmed" after 48 hours. I am not sure if I ever seen a coded entry for league tennis (other than defaults due to not being played). Usually it is just a score i.e. 6-4, 4-2 without annotation.
     
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  8. NumbersGuy

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    I believe in Leagie when you enter the scores you would select Retired in the dropdown box.
     
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  9. goober

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    yes you have option of completed, retired, default (are there others?) for each match which will show up on scorecard, but on the tennis link listing for a players record it will just be a score. In tournaments they will put a notation next the score. BTW OP should definitely not let a 6-0 6-0 score be entered since games that were played will affect ratings.
     
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  10. woodrow1029

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    There should be a default option. This is a default situation, not retire (unless he was injured/ill/family emergency/etc.)
     
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  11. I Heart Thomas Muster

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    I want to hear more about this walking off in a huff!
     
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    As I understand it, this was his third match of the day. He had no problems with straw or stick, but was unable to defeat brick.
     
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    This is correct
     
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    That's hilarious! Made my day.
     
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    Great line, where did you steal that from )
     
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  16. Cindysphinx

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    I don't know, but I keep it now.
     
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  17. Bedrock

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    .....................
    6-4, 4-2 (huff)
     
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    What did you do to him ? why would a guy just walk off unless you were behaving ??? well I won't assume anything but did you behave badly ? or maybe he was injured and he just didn't tell you because he had to run to the emergency room.
     
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  19. sureshs

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    Could he really run if it was an emergency?
     
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  20. NTRPolice

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    It's NOT a default.

    It's a retire.

    (6-4) (4-2) Retired.
     
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  21. woodrow1029

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    In leagues, correct.
     
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  22. Cindysphinx

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    Before the league doesn't care why you didn't finish. If you start a match but don't complete it, it is a retirement regardless of why.
     
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  23. woodrow1029

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    Can you not be suspended for misconduct from league tennis?
     
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  24. NTRPolice

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    Read the rules again.
     
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  25. woodrow1029

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    LOL. ok.

    Definition of Retirement:

    A retirement occurs when a player is unable to continue playing a match or
    resume a suspended match because of injury, illness, personal circumstance,
    or adult discipline. Refusal to play for any other reason is treated as a default.


    Definition of Default (Refusal to Play):

    A default also occurs when a player refuses to play or continue to play for
    reasons other than injury, illness, or personal circumstance. Examples of
    this type of default include refusing to play in order to get home sooner or
    in order to participate in another sporting event.


    So, as I said, unless the OP comes in and adds to his story, based on the rules, how could you justify a player walking off court in a huff being a "retirement"?
     
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  26. NTRPolice

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    Oh, boy.

    1) If that is the angle you're going to play, how can you be right and I be wrong at the same time? Making a special case for your argument I see.

    2) 2.03M Retirement. A retirement occurs when an individual match
    has started and a player/doubles team is unable to continue due to
    injury, loss of condition, emergency or refusal to play.

    What you quoted does not apply unless the OP is a junior and getting "points" towards a suspension.


    Edit: PS: Instead of just Googling and posting what you read on Yahoo! answers, try looking up the USTA league regulations itself.


    2013 USTA league regulations glossary of terms..

    "Retirement: Occurs when an individual match has started and a player is
    unable to continue due to injury, loss of condition, emergency or refusal to
    play. Retirements are entered in TennisLink with the final game count for
    NTRP calculation purposes (e.g., 2-6, 1-3) and the system will automatically
    credit the individual receiving the retirement with sufficient games as to make
    them the winner of the match (i.e., 2-6, 6-3, 1-0) for determining standings."

    http://assets.usta.com/assets/1/15/2013_Regs_final_draft.pdf
     
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  27. woodrow1029

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    :) Touche.

    I'm glad I stated earlier in the thread that I don't know anything about leagues. LOL.

    However, it's still not clarified in the thread that this was actually a league question. Also, what I quoted does not only apply to a junior player.
     
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  28. woodrow1029

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    btw, I already edited my initial response.
     
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  29. sureshs

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    Maybe he has Alzheimers and forgot why he was on the court.
     
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  30. 3fees

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    No, its was a extended bathroom break.
     
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  31. walton123

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    just read through these responses...

    sorry, was away for a bit and just read through responses.
    our rules state "if any player leaves the court before a match winner has been determined, they default the match"

    That is what prompted my original question - I appreciate the responses, I will check with Local League person........they have been slow to respond.
     
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