players who use eastern forehand grip

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  1. venusandserenafreak

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    i have come to like playing with an eastern forehand grip. i was wondering what players on the ATP and WTA tours use that grip. it dosent seem that popular but i would like to know so i can watch some videos of them
     
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    Stepanek is one, I think.
     
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  3. Andres

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    ToJo looks like he uses an Eastern FH.
     
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  4. venusandserenafreak

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    who the heck is to jo
     
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  5. Lotto

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    Well, it may not be an old fashioned full eastern grip but Federer does use a modified eastern grip. I can tell you that it's more eastern than "extreme". Sampras also used the eastern grip.
     
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    Henman used it. A lot of grass specialists used it before grass became to slow.
     
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    Thomas Johansson. Watch your language, newbie.
     
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    How abot Davenport?


    Henman used a Semi-western...he even says so on his website

    from http://www.timhenman.org/qa/default.sps?iType=5890&icustompageid=21645
     
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  9. hoosierbr

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    Thomas Johansson uses a western forehand. Plenty of pics with close-ups.

    Jonas Bjorkman uses an eastern.
     
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    Federer uses an eastern forehand grip.

    (And before anyone claims otherwise, read the article on Federer's forehand in the May issue of Tennis Magazine. It says he uses an eastern forehand grip and NOT a semi-western forehand grip.)
     
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    sampras, tim henman, connors (he's continental i think), mcenroe.
     
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    Because a magazine has never gotten anything wrong before.
     
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    I just saw him play vs Nalbandian on Davis Cup, and looked just like an Eastern. Nowhere near Western. Perhaps a veeeery mild SW, but that's about it.
     
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    McEnroe used a continental.
     
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  15. lordmanji

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    like anyone knows who "tojo" is. he wasn't being rude but you were so you should watch it.
     
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  16. iamke55

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    There won't be any in after a decade. It's improper technique and with the evolution of the game, it will no longer hold up to the rapidly improving level of competition, just like the one handed backhand, moonballs, and volleying.
     
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    Everyone is contradicting each other in this thread.
     
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  18. BreakPoint

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    Did you even read the article? They took close-up pics of his grip and analyzed the heck out of it. Have you? No, they did not get it wrong.
     
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    Well, Federer DOES use that grip on most of his forehands, so the magazine is right.
     
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  20. dirkgnuf

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    Breakpoint and some of you other posters out there,
    the OP asked for "eastern Forehand" He didn't stipulate if he wanted variants( extreme eastern etc) and In Yandell's acrticle in the tennis mag, he makes it clear it's an "extreme variant". So it does help to specify this so people don't get confused.
     
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    Connors used/uses a semi-western forehand
     
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    Go to getty images and type in his name. You'll find plenty of pics of his forehand grip. Might have looked different in person but clearly western.
     
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    Now I'm getting confused. What the heck is the difference between a western and eastern forehand. I know that a western forehand becomes the eastern backhand.

    But watching some coach who posted on youtube it looked like the eastern hold looked like semi western.
     
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    Read the article again. He never called it an "extreme variant".

    What he did say is that it's NOT a semi-western grip, and that it's a "modified Eastern grip" only because "Federer keeps part of his hand off of the end of the grip".
     
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    No, because a guy with over 17,000 posts has never been wrong before.


    ;)
     
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  26. JW10S

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    As far as I'm concerned the discussion of grips is a very ambiquous one at best. No two players hold the racquet the same. The notion that there is one Eastern grip and one Semi-western grip is very shortsighted. Almost everyone uses a variation or modification of a certain grip as some hold the racquet with their fingers close together, some with their fingers spread, some with part of their hand off the grip, some choke up, some with their knuckles aligned, some with their knuckles at an angle, and of course players use different grip sizes and different grip shapes which effect how they hold the racquet. Those variations make classifying a grip very difficult. Defining a grip as placing a certain knuckle on a certain bevel is useless. If you pick up a HEAD, Volkl, and Wilson racquet and place that certain knuckle on a certain bevel you'll find that your hand is in a different position relative to the racquet face in all 3 cases as all 3 racquets have different grip shapes. When I was coming up the term 'semi-western' meant any grip anywhere between an eastern and western grip, not just one particular grip. It's odd though that back when 3 of the 4 Slams were played on grass and continental and eastern grips were the norm no one who held their racquet between a continental and an eastern grip was said to have a 'semi-eastern' grip. There is not a more ambiguous term in tennis than 'semi-western'.
     
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    ^^^^
    True dat.
     
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  28. Mansewerz

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    If the magazine your talking about is "TENNIS", then read this. Yes it is old, but it shows how the same source can give out differing information.

    http://www.tennis.com/yourgame/instructionarticles/forehand/forehand.aspx?id=85482
     
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  29. dirkgnuf

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    Sorry Breakpoint, I had a quick read through the article, so you're right, he uses "modify". But for all intents and purposes, I know some on this board refer to a modified eastern with..(if i remember correctly the bevel diagram in the article is highlighted red on the bevel between eastern and western) and i think most people call that extreme eastern as well, just throwing that out there for people who may be confused...
    the article Breakpoint is referring to just came out in this months(may or june?) 2008 issue, which has hit some newsstands, but not the tennis website etc.
    Article is by John Yandell BTW.
     
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  30. BeHappy

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    IMO, since part of Federer's hand is under the handle, it's a mild semi wetsern, and he gets the benefit of all the hand and arm rotation that goes with that.For this reason I would say his grip is more like Agassi's than Sampras's.
     
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  31. Golden Retriever

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    Why even bother to find out what grip do they use? Just use the grip your hand tells you to.
     
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  32. JW10S

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    Let me see if I've got it...Federer definitely uses either a 'semi-mild-quasi-kinda-sorta-maybe-I think-western' grip or an 'extreme-exaggerated-strong-modified-kinda-sorta-maybe-I think-eastern' grip--am I right? At just what point does one become the other? Again, as I mentioned in my earlier post, defining a certain player's grip in exact terms is useless as illustrated by the many inexact, vague, and contradictory terms used to describe player's grips in this thread alone--there are too many variables to consider.
     
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  33. stormholloway

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    And I read a Tennis Magazine where it said he had a semi western. I believe the truth is in between. I think his knuckle is right on the corner of the two bevels.

    Someone has posted a photo here he's holding a full semi western. I don't believe he normally hits like this but sure enough it was a semi western grip.

    I think when people call it "extreme eastern" they're being accurate.
     
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  34. BeHappy

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    No, a grip like Sampras's was an extreme eastern, that is to say, a more extreme, ie, western, eastern than is normal.Federer's hand actually goes under the handle, which is where his hand and arm rotation come from, these two things make it a mild semi western.
     
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  35. stormholloway

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    Absolute and utter nonsense. It doesn't matter here the hand goes or anything else for that matter. It matters where the base knuckle is. Unless his knuckle is flush against that bevel then it's not a semi western grip.

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    Not a semi western grip, and he's obviously done with his grip change by this point in the photo.
     
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  36. stormholloway

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    Malarkey. Connors used continental.
     
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    what are you talking about?

    If yur hand is underneath the handle, it's a semi western, his is half a bevel under the handle so it's a semi western.
     
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  38. BeHappy

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    you have no idea what you're talking about and you're way out of your depth.
     
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  39. Fries-N-Gravy

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    mcenroe used continental and he had some ridiculous groundies...

    i really think the problem is people identify grips in too many different ways. i personally like to use the index knuckle and fed's knuckle is on the corner, between two surfaces. while i can see the other argument of people could use different places of their palm to power the racquet.
     
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  40. BreakPoint

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    This is an Eastern forehand grip, folks:

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    I agree with that.



     
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  42. stormholloway

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    I just heard Jimmy Connors say he used a "shake hands grip" on the 2007 Wimbledon final DVD.

    'Shake hands' is continental last time I checked. That's from his own mouth.
     
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    connors use the continental grip of EVERYTHING...
     
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    Aside from moonballing, you just described Federer, the world's number one tennis player. Good job.
     
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    Geez ! Connors went from using a Con't grip to a SW - amazing - this is getting like a PJ thread.:-?
     
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    I always thought Enqvist was an Eastern grip player - as was Sanguinetti...but I'ma little confused now. Perhaps they were more Continental?
     
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    all of them when they were youngins
     
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    'Shake hands' is an Eastern. Try shaking someone's hand and check the gripping :)
     
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  49. coloskier

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    Connors used a continental grip, that is why he hit with almost no topspin, just like McEnroe. He hit everything flat or with sidespin.
     
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    your a idiot. the eastern forehand may not be used as much as SW these days but 1HBH and volleying etc are still a big part of the game. you fail
     
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