Playing USTA = 2-3 matches a day - need drugs for endurance

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  1. borisboris

    borisboris Semi-Pro

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    :lol: I need some drugs that would help my endurance. I'm not on the ATP tour - so I won't be tested. I just played a tourney = 3 matches in 20 hrs = I 40 yrs old and need some energy. What are some drugs that are banned from the Tour but amatuers like myself can pop to help my performance?
     
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  2. Mark55

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    The "drug" you need is called fitness...learn how to workout and get stronger/fitter that way like everyone else. Hell I have school everyday till 3:30 then I play at least 2 matches for 3+ hours and then every other day after hitting I work out for 45mins to an hour and then I still have 2 hours of studying after that...


    Btw I am in pretty good shape and I know even 40 year olds who are in better shape then me, who train everyday and you can always look up to Agassi.
     
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  3. perfmode

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    Welcome to America. People are always trying to take shortcuts.


    Just do some fitness training and build up your stamina. Stop looking for the easy way out.
     
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  4. joe sch

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    Both of the replies above are right on the money.
    Todays society wants quick fixes and instant improvement.
    Practice and hard training are what will build up skill level and endurance.
    Even the players with the most talent, like Andre Agassi, relize the importance of training, especially when you start getting older. Make a plan to improve your game by setting up a training routine. Try to do add some cardio and strenght training to your weekly schedule. Running, jumping rope and doing situps, pushups and squat thrusts can be done 3 days/week for 30 mins each day and will greatly improve your condition.
     
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  5. sanitarium

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    Ironically, after all the spewing of personal opinion the question was never close to being answered.

    If he had asked if you agree with altering performance through drugs, or some physical methods of increasing endurance you'd be great at replying!

    Now, on topic, these drugs are banned for a reason, they can do significant damage if misused and damage the body regardless, hardly a sacrifice a non professional 40 year old should endure.

    Drugs like ephedrin, steriods would increase performance - while ironically damaging the body it improves.
     
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  6. Ronaldo

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    Need a stimulant, that's all. Played two USTA singles matches each lasting over 3 1/2 hrs each, one at 9:00 pm, final next day at 8:30 am. Welcome to weekend tournaments, bring the pain
     
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  7. joe sch

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    The american stimulant is caffeine and starbucks is the fashionable way to get the fix. Be careful since stimulants like caffeine lead to dehydration so can be counterproductive when taking for energy when warn out and dehydrated after a tennis battle.
     
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  8. jun

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    3 matches in 20 hrs is a lot. Obviously we don't know how fit this guy is. But at some point, it doesn't matter how fit you are. If you keep pounding on your body, it's going to get bruised and get sore.

    How hard do YOU guys "TRAIN"? I am not talking about 5 mile run or 1~2 hour at the gym.
     
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  9. borisboris

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    Well -- my tennis is my training. I played 14 matches in Aug & 13 in Sept along with practicing against the wall - wk on serve - ball machine. I do leg lifts and some curls along w/ fly's with low weight. I hate doing cardio because it will involve my knees which I save for matches. It seems the more I would train = the less I could play for ex. train Mon take Tues off to let muscle rebuild then play Wed. :x
     
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  10. arosen

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    The healthy answer is CREATINE MONOHYDRATE. Yep. Liquid form the best 30 min before the match, o,5 ml, and right after. Plus, liquid carbs during the matches, like soy drink or rice drink with sugar in it. This way you will stay hydrated and with plenty of ATF in your muscle tissue. Its not going to make you a champion but it works and it's actually healthy.
     
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  11. borisboris

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    :p Thanks Arosen: That's the info I wanted - I'm already a champ..... :wink:
     
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  12. kevhen

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    lots of lean meats with protein leading up to a big event so you have the muscle reserve and then sports drinks like powerade during the event to keep your energy level and sodium levels up. Bananas can help with potassium too. You can be a winner with a good diet and good fitness plan that is healthy in the long-term too. Be careful when putting any new chemicals in your body and lookout for any side effects.
     
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  13. Fred132

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    Careful with the creatine...when I used it, I seemed more prone to cramping. Stopped using it, and the cramping went away.
     
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  14. Type40

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    I think that at 40 years old, and I my self am the same age, you should accept that trying to play 3 matches in 20 hours, is just asking a bit much.

    The way these USTA tournaments force you to play so many matches in such short time frames, is why i don't bother with them. They don't test your tennis ability, only your recovery time.
     
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  15. vin

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    How about trying more productive exercises like squats, deadlifts, chin ups, bench press and overhead press? You don't have to use heavy weights.
    Try an elliptical machine. Less impact. Find a hitting partner that you can have long rallies with, set up the ball machine to go to a corner and practice recovering towards the center of the court after each hit, or use the random feature on the ball machine if it has it.
    Muscle typically takes more than one day to fully rebuild, especially the larger ones. Tennis players don't have the luxury of waiting around for complete recovery though. There's a fine line between highly productive training and overtraining. Up to a certain point, the more you train, the better your body will be at recovery and handling more abuse. But if you go beyond the line of overtraining, you'll crash. Everyone is different and you have to figure out where the line is for you. It's certainly good to have at least one day off per week from strenuous activity.
     
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  16. RacquetDoctor

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    Liquid Creatine is NOT stable. Nor are you getting the amount of creatine listed on the labels. It is a waste of money. The only way to get levels of creatine in to your body is through powders.

    Here is a short article on the BS claims of liquid creatine.

    More independent tests reveal liquid creatine contains no creatine.

    by Paul Cribb, B.H.Sci HMS
    AST Director of Research

    Recent, independent tests on many of the novel creatine supplements reveal they fail dismally to deliver results. In an independent assessment, supplements such as liquid, effervescent and chewable creatine were shown to contain minute amounts of creatine or no creatine at all!

    Tests were conducted on 22 muscle-enhancing supplements by ConsumerLab.com. They found no problems among creatine-powder products. However, the liquid creatine products were found to contain less than 1% of their label claims for creatine. One chewable wafer product was found to contain less than 10% of its label claim for creatine.

    The liquid creatine products tested contained virtually no creatine and were contaminated with a creatine breakdown compound (creatinine). Just remember, the marketers of liquid creatine products all claim “100% stable, pure” creatine. These tests, conducted at an independent facility revealed that liquid creatine contains no creatine! The two liquid creatine products tested actually contained more creatinine than creatine!

    When creatine is metabolized in the body, it creates the waste product creatinine which is normally removed from the body by the kidneys. Creatinine also appears in impure creatine supplements as a result of improper manufacturing or breakdown of the creatine. Creatine sold in liquid form breaks down within the product into creatinine. Creatinine is useless and must be eliminated through the kidneys.

    These results on liquid creatine come hot on the heels of a study performed by highly respected scientists Richard Krieder and Darryn Willoughby that revealed participants using 8 times the prescribed dose of one liquid creatine product failed to increase muscle creatine levels any better than a placebo that contained only colored water.

    Several studies have revealed that liquid creatine products not only fail to meet label claims for creatine content, most of them contain no creatine at all! If you want to pay big bucks for small bottles of colored water, that’s your choice.
     
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  17. netman

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    Stay away from creatine. It is really only useful if you are trying to increase the volume of your muscles. Creatine does this by helping muscle fiber retain water. Study after study has shown that creatine provides no benefit to fast twitch fibers in terms of recovery or stamina. And cramping is a significant problem. Unless you are training for a bodybuilding competition, it is just a waste of money.

    40 is old. You won't recover as fast and your injuries will take longer to heal. Recovery time is key at your age. But hey, sounds like you believe the BS pumped out by the sports industry that "pain is good" and you are not really an athlete unless you run yourself into the ground. So by all means keep denying your age. Means more money for the sports medicine industry. Quick fixes for aging athletes is the bread and butter business of the sports doc. :D
     
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  18. borisboris

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    :lol: Thanks Vin for program. I have an unusual body mass make up in that if I do Bench or Military Press even w/ low weights my muscles enlarge to the extent of stunting a fluid ground stroke motion. Squats seen to put too much torch on the knees. The one sport I guess I should start again would be swimming = works all muscles + stamina. :wink:
     
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  19. Trey

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    I just played 7 sets in a span of 7 hours and it was pretty much insane. 1 warmup set with a friend. I had a break of 30 minutes. Then 2 matches that both went 3 sets with only a 30 minutes in between. I was sore for 3 days after and the 7th set I was so tired I pretty much was just slicing and pushing.

    Although I am not in my 40's I am in my mid 30's and pretty much decided that is the end of Tournament play for me.
     
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  20. Marius_Hancu

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    Check the
    Fitness and cardio, the OUTSIDE series, in
    in this posting:
    Great fitness sites
    http://tt.tennis-warehouse.com/viewtopic.php?p=129712#129712
    it's very well thought by world class triathlon athletes and decathlonists and feasible. It has some weights too.

    Adapt it for your time and taste.
    You should try it at least during the winter/off-season.
     
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  21. itsn3o

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    the least you can do is take vitamins and watch your diet for best performances on and off the court.
     
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  22. dogman

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    Maybe not a drug but....

    If your looking for a little more improvement in your stamina.
    I'm 52, I've been playing tennis since I was 17 and it's accually been getting easier as I get older, I enjoy beating up on the younger kids, (I'm talkin' 18-30 yr olds) It really does have everything to do with fitness and diet not just tennis for fitness, add some weight training. I play 3-4 times a week with 4.5-5.0 players and am ususally the last to leave when everyone's pooped out.
    And my secret is pure and natural, "Bee Pollen" 1000 mg everyday whether you play or not, along with vitamins of course. This is what bees use for energy, Flower pollen is purer if you can find it because it's harvested without the bees, but more expensive, bee pollen is fine. Try it an hour before you play, you'll be surprised.
     
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  23. Marius_Hancu

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    Re: Maybe not a drug but....

    This stuff is for real, I heard it for many years.
     
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  24. Marius_Hancu

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    This article might be somewhat related:

    Enduring a Five-Set Singles Match (& the Next Match): Physiology of Preparation, Competition & Recovery
    Michael Christmass - The University of Western Australia, Nedlands, Australia
    http://www.coachesinfo.com/category/tennis/204/

    even if it's sometimes difficult for the non-specialist.
     
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