Please critique this 7-years old

Discussion in 'Junior League & Tournament Talk' started by carnaval09, Jul 23, 2012.

  1. MethodTennis

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    All the top pros, the leading tennis associations and coaches everywhere in the world have pretty much accepted that this is the way forward however some members on here seem to think their one player home academy at which they coach is going to produce the next world number one using different methods.

    I'm pretty sure federer has stated that mini tennis is teh way forward on more than one occasion. Anyway this is not helping the OP, their are pleanty threads to debate this on here but this is not one of them
     
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  2. carnaval09

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    Just got back home.
    Once again thanks a lot for your advice. I really appreciate it.
     
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    Thanks a lot. I'll check it out.
     
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    He is about 51" tall. We play with orange balls, I can use red ones only for quick warm ups and volleys as he just started learning volleys.
     
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  5. carnaval09

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    I looked at the video over and stopped where you had mentioned and could clearly see that lazy one step footwork.
    I looked these drills over and they seem to be great drills. Thanks.
     
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    black screen-printed tshirts r for metalheads
     
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    minitennis or not

    Fact 1:
    most top players in the world as young played with regulation ball and heavy full length racket (but thinner grip size). Agassi, S Graf, Sampras, Federer, Sharapova, Nadal, Djokovic. (At least some of them even played at 7 with full size wood rackets at 400g)

    Fact 2: The coach with probably the best track record coaching young kids to top player i s Rick Macci (Roddick, Williams sisters, Capriati, and so forth). He says foam balls or slow balls and smaller rackets maybe good the first 6 months or so, but when they are 6-7 years old and have practice some time, for sure they should go with full size racket, to learn proper swing...

    Fact 3: according to a couple of posters here most kids in France has been playing minitennis, and that is a system that has been in place in that country for many years.

    And France has some of the best junior players in the world, according to that poster, in ages 12, 14, 16, 18.

    I checked this out a bit: last year in 14 u France girls did not qualify to world final 16 nations, the boys played for place 5-8. In 16 u France boys were in top 3. Agian girls didnt qualify to world finals. Present ranking in 18 under has no French boy in top 25, however 7 in top 100. Only one girls in top 100, ranked 97. (Not impressing at all, much less merits than I expected from a country like France.)

    Conclusion: for me I can t see any convincing arguments for letting talented tennis kids play minitennis all the way up to 10 years of age. Probably better after the first 6 months-1 year or so go full length racket, full court, especially from when kid is 8-9-10 years old.

    But it would be good with more evidence based facts and arguments here.

    Maybe both systems can work if that is the aim, to develop elite players. If the goal is to bring more kids to the sport, and let them have more fun and recruit talented kids that wnat to compete early and often, then minitennis serves that purpose very well.
     
  8. TeflonTom

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    say that looks like fun. let me try.

    fact 4: the majority of great tennis players grew up with wooden racquets

    conclusion: all players should learn to play with dunlop maxplys

    :rolleyes:
     
  9. Ash_Smith

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    Really? Not sure this is entirely true!

    Cheers
     
  10. MethodTennis

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    they have been tested pretty rigorously now although maybe a couple years ago it was more questionable.

    loved this post though
     
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  11. NLBwell

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    If they go back to grass with low skidding bounces as the primary surface, that might actually help.
     
  12. carnaval09

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    That's not quite the advice I was looking for:???:
     
  13. carnaval09

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    Thanks everybody for the comments.
    For the last 2 days we worked on his FH and changed a lot of things.
    Tomorrow I want to post another video of our homework when he rallied to see if we are going in the right direction.
    Being new here I'm not sure if I need to create another thread or just add another video link in the initial post. ???
     
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    Would you please take another look at him rallying with orange ball in the second video where we did some adjustments based on the comments here
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m-s25G8_zgo&feature=channel&list=UL
    Thanks in advance.
     
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    I'm not convinced that's true. There hasn't been enough time to evaluate. All the original research came from Belgium and hinged on Clijsters, Henin and Malisse, two of who didn't play mini-tennis and the other had nothing to do with the Belgian Federation at all!

    Personally, I don't have a problem with the equipment and modified courts etc (in fact I love it!), but I do have a problem with the competition mandate. Tennis is an individual sport, played by individual athletes, not all under 8's are alike, nor are under 9's etc etc. Coaches should be able to choose how their athletes compete based on their needs - maybe a 9 year old needs to play a Red match to practice a new technique, maybe a 7 year old is physically developed enough to compete on an Orange court. Implement this flexibility and scrap ratings and rankings for under 10's and you'd be spot on (actually, you'd be in Spain!!!) :D

    To be fair it doesn't matter as all countries are adopting the competition mandate so whether it is better or not is immaterial as all countries will be in the same boat...except Spain, who may well continue to dominate!

    Cheers
     
  16. gplracer

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    I think it is a good improvement. The backswing is shorter. See if you can get him to shorten the follow through as well so it does not almost hit him in the back each time. Also be sure he recovers to a ready position with the left hand on the throat of the racket. This will help with recovery time and readiness for the next shot.
     
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    Thanks, we keep progressing which is encouraging.
     

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