Please help Need: Broken or discared machine

Discussion in 'Stringing Techniques / Stringing Machines' started by AznRamenDude, Aug 18, 2008.

  1. AznRamenDude

    AznRamenDude Rookie

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    Ok, this sounds weird, but i need a broken or discared machine. Actually i will take any machine, as long as someone didnt completely warped the machine (dont melt it, shread it, tear it from limb to limb, i will be doing that :)) If anyone cared to donate a working machine, i will be too tempted to keep it for myself XD

    Ok, the reason:
    I'm want to major in engineer and my high school has a VERY good engineer program. We have CAD classes that teaches collage level stuff and an engineer room which we could build stuff too! (we have made from Japanese tea houses to a motor cart using a helicopter frame with a jet engine)

    Well CAD is a 3D computer software that makes parts, basically blueprint and such. I'm trying to get an orignal idea (from my school at least) and tried asking to make a 3D racquet, but my teacher said it was too simple. So after much thinking, I have deciding to make a 3D string machine, outlining parts and all (so please dont throw away that one nut that you thought was useless).

    If there is anyone who can kindly donate a cheep machine, a drop weight or something, perferbly with a 6 point mount but i will take any! I will pay for the shipping! Please help out a future engineer. Remember, chances are i will be designing the house or office you work at :)

    THANK YOU
     
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  2. Mansewerz

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    Wow, strange request. Good luck though it sounds interesting.
     
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  4. radigan

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    Interesting request. But as a instructor myself, I would suggest learning to spell check before even beginning on a CAD drawing. You will get people to take you more seriously if your request is written correctly.

    "Well CAD is a 3D computer software that makes parts, basically blueprint and such. "

    CAD will not make anything. You draw and design it and then print it. Maybe you are referring to CAM.
     
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  5. hollywood9826

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    Why dont you just try to design your own machine. Aint that what engineerig is all about.
     
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  6. AznRamenDude

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    Ah, sorry about that. Yeah, as Radigan said, CAD allows you to draw 3D models. Sorry about that.

    I would, but I honestly dont really know where i would start first. I don't own a machine, so I dont know how to string or how to make one. My teacher wanted us to take an object, measure it, then build it out. We also use this to compete with other schools.

    Thanks a lot LittlElvis! Will send an e-mail!
     
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  7. hollywood9826

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    If the deal with Elvis dont work out, just go to a tennis place and talk to the dudes and they will probably let you check it all out and do what you gotta do.
     
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  8. eunjam

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    why are you all over this kid?

    "Interesting request. But as a instructor myself, I would suggest learning to spell check before even beginning on a CAD drawing. You will get people to take you more seriously if your request is written correctly."

    he's obviously a kid......but he's stoked on tennis and engineering. give him a fricking break. you obviously got his intention.

    does someone want correct my grammar or my train of thought? do you not get my point?

    oh, and by the way, it is

    'an instructor' with an 'n'. not 'a instructor'.

    where were you educated? maybe people take your smack on other people seriously if you didn't make 4th grade writing errors.
     
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  9. AznRamenDude

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    uhmm...not to be rude to anybody, but I'm 16, incoming 11th grader in high school. Please dont call me a kid :) but thank you for helping.

    I dont think they will be too happy letting me literally taking apart thier machine 1 bolt at a time. It's also going to take a while because i got to dimension all the parts for it. :twisted:
     
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  10. flash9

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    Some Thoughts

    Which CAD System will you be using:
    • ProENGINEER
    • SolidWorks
    • SolidEdge
    • AutoCAD Inventor
    Not that it really matters, but just curious?

    Somewhere I saw where someone had posted some detailed drawings of the Serrano No-Awl Stringing Machine. It would be a good challenge to try to create a new version of this design. It is a foot activated drop weight. The weights we quite large, and it would be neat to see if this basic design could be simplified and made to work with lighter weights similar to what is used in today's modern dropweights.

    Maybe this guy will donate this to your school?
    Vintage Serrano No-Awl Tennis Raquet Stringer
     
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  11. AznRamenDude

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    I will be using AutoCAD 2008 to draw up the machine.

    And yeah, after i figure out how the machine works and all, i suppose it would be a fun challange to design a new machine. :)
     
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  12. flash9

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    Sorry to Hear This

    I am truly sorry to hear that. :confused:

    AutoCAD 2008 is not a true 3D Solid Modeling CAD system and is not used by companies that are doing any real Mechanical Design. It is too bad that even in High School that they are still teaching this for Mechanical Design. The way that youth today think in three dimensions the CAD systems I listed are all very easy to use and very powerful design tools. Just the way they support assemblies and automatic drawing creation is so powerful vs a predominantly 2D drawing tool like AutoCAD.
     
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  13. diredesire

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    It's ok to be called a kid ;) I'm only 22, and I don't take offense to that statement. You'll quickly realize that age and experience are things worthy of great respect ;)

    As far as a machine: you'll probably be paying ~$40+ shipped for a machine minimum!. You may even consider buying a klippermate (working) and disassemble it, reassemble it, and use it :)

    (You could try an ATS portable, or a silent partner). I think the return on money spent would be greater.
     
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  14. Mansewerz

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    Since you don't need a working machine, you could probably call up some companies like silent partner or something.

    Also, eagnas sells really cheap klippermate knockoffs (under $100)
     
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  15. radigan

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    I don't believe I was all over him. I did not insult him or his education as you chose to do with me. Rather, I was telling him that to be taken more seriously, as he will need to do to become an engineer, he needed to correct the major spelling errors. Look at the real world and you would see the need.

    Personally, I think it is a great idea. He can use ACAD 08 and extrude the parts, but it would be easier to do with Inventor. Also, he could test and manipulate the parts with it. Unfortunately, most schools don't have access to it nor the funds to buy it or lease it.
     
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  16. kirtar

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    Don't know if it's still available, but Autodesk provided free 1 student yr licenses for Inventor over the summer. (students.autodesk.com). You'll need either a school issued email or an invite from a teacher who has one. I don't particularly like Inventor, since it likes to complain about non-issues, but w/e.

    Good luck :p

    Oh, and you can get stuff like viz from the student zone as well (no 3ds)
     
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  17. AznRamenDude

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    They changed it. It's now only a 1 month trial. :(

    and yeah, if you dont know, California is kinda broke. Schools are seriously lacking funds.

    Calling up at companies to see if they got a broken machine to use is a good idea. Cant believe i have never thought about that...
     
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  18. kirtar

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    "After you have downloaded the software, you will need to activate it with Autodesk using your unique serial number. If you do not activate your software, it will time-out after 30 days. Once activated, you will have a 13-month license to use the software."

    They give you a serial to use (I have one for inventor 11, 2008, 2009, though I didn't use all of them...The DLer was messed). It's only 30 days if you don't activate with their key. The only program only available in 30 day trial is 3ds MAX [They give out 13 mos for Viz instead].
     
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  19. Mansewerz

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    By the way radigan, are you a teacher? Or a professor or the like?
     
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  20. radigan

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    I teach HS kids. Didn't want to get the PhD to do the professor thing so I stopped after getting my masters. :)
     
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  21. Mansewerz

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    LOL you make it sound like you half assed it. Masters is pretty darn good in my book.
     
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  22. Zach

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    What part of Kansas are you from Radigan, the only reason I ask is because I live in Salina.
     
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    "I have been meaning to throw this machine away because it is so antiquated, but I am glad I kept it to show these pictures."

    Definitely don't throw it away. I bet you could get at least $50 on fleabay (not including shipping) for your machine. It's pretty nifty how it operates. The fact you have all the pieces and the original box is a plus.
     
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  24. AznRamenDude

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    I have sent emails to Gamma and Klippermate asking for a kind donation for a used, older model. Anyone got another company that they can reconmend for great service?

    Thank You
     
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  25. kfactor/all/the/WAY!

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    hey azn ramen dude, how is the n95 going out for u?

    ur stringing machine delema is pretty radical, good luck!
     
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  26. radigan

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    I am around the Wichita area. I will be in Salina sunday for a mixed doubles league match though.

    AznRamenDude, talk to Mark at Alpha. With the high quality customer support they give, you may have a chance there. Maybe, if not a full machine, you could get some parts to get you started. Mathews archery company sent some compound bow parts to us for measuring and drawing.
     
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  27. AznRamenDude

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    Going great. :) Thanks for the sell. I keep forgetting to ask you, but do you remember what was that it was that you strung it with?


    radigan: i be sure to send an email to Mark. thanks
     
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    gosen polyon comfort at 59( tension not sure)
     
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  29. Mansewerz

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    Silent Partner probably has some broken machines and they could help you out.
     
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