Please Tsonga, come back to your old racquet

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  1. 15_ounce

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    That Babolat racquet of his is just wild and less controllable. He played better with that old Wilson racquet.. (was it K Blade..) I reckon he would play well with Wilson Pro Staff 95 sq in.
     
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  2. CRWV

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    The unforced errors in the Murray match were him, not the stick.

    he was missing by 3 feet, not 3 inches.

    That said, I agree, especially if he plans on S&V'ing in the future (S&V on a stiff MP with poly?, don't think so...)
     
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    He's ranked higher now than he ever was, plus he had some big upset wins the last couple of years with the APDGT.
     
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  4. ZeroSkid

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    I have to agree with the OP, it suit his style of play much better
     
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  5. colan5934

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    I'm fairly sure that he uses Gut mains with ALU crosses (maybe ALU rough)
     
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  6. CRWV

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    my bad.

    Still, how cool would it be if he brought back the 6.0 85 and started serve and volleying? :lol:
     
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    I tend to think frames fit the player rather than the way he/she plays.
     
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    Does anyone actually have or have held his frame? You can customize just about any racket to play like somthing else, and Jo is with P1, im sure Nate and his boys rigged somthing up for him inside the hoop and the grip. No way does Jo-Willy play with that pool noodle of a stick
     
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    Somebody a year or so ago posted pictures of Tsonga's actual stick. I'm sure you could search it. And he's a pro, he can play with whatever he wants. He just made the Wimbledon semis and was very much in the match against Murray who played quite well. I don't think that if he was using his old Pro Staff that he would have necessarily done any better or worse. When you get to that level, equipment matters, but not as much as how you're playing on that given day.
     
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    I don't think he would switch if he didn't feel like it helped him or, if nothing else, he would be able to keep up his level.

    It's also not the playing style that a racket suits, but the player. I love serving and volleying, chipping and charging, crushing and net rushing, etc. I've always played with an APD and have recently switched over to a prince exo3 tour. Neither of them are rackets known for their net play, but they were what felt the most comfortable to me. Because of that, I played and still play m best twnnis with them.
     
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    What the heck? I think he's been playing great with the Babolat. Look at where his is now! He can somehow flatten out the ball really well and generate a ton of power with it.
     
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    Well APDGT are very powerful rackets and all pros and such can flatten out their hits regardless of what racket they use. He could go the same with a pure storm limited haha
     
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    asiank90, I should have specified. while that is his actual painted wilson (hps 95 i think), I was referring to his actual APDGT+
     
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    I agree, I think his play just looked better, more controlled and measured, with his old Wilson racquet. Yes, he's been very successful in recent years with the APDGT, but how do we know that is because of the racquet, rather than in spite of it? I've been puzzled by his racquet choice ever since he switched, I mean, a APDGT may suit a noob pusher like nadal, but for an aggressive player like Tsonga who already has tons of power?

    I think it worked very well for him on clay this year against Djokovic, but for his all-round game I think a Wilson suited him better. His game just looked wild in the semis against Murray this Wimbledon, and the racquet just looked kind of oversized for him.
     
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  16. colan5934

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    I find it funny that you view Nadal as a pusher. I'm not a ******* by any means, but if you've ever watched him play--in person, this is much more evident--he goes after the ball ferociously. He does use a lot of spin, but he hits the ball SO HARD. He uses angles and moves his opponent around until he can find an opening to hit a winner. His aggressiveness comes from his tactics. He does not bully the ball around the court like Tsonga does (not taking away from Jo's game at all). It's not "pushing" if your opponent is constantly on the defensive.
     
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    + 1 to that. Pushers don't bend a tennis ball around the net post for a winner. Also, *******? haha, is this the accepted name for Nadal fans now?
     
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    Seconded, and I don't even care for his play (respect it a lot though).

    I want to see Tsonga with Fed's blx 6.1 90 and string setup. I think Tsonga could be the bigger, stronger, faster Federer. (I don't really, but similar. stronger but with less elegance and fluidity of movement)
     
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    Haha, I've heard it used a bit to describe Nadal fans who feel he can do no wrong. They'll make excuses about his losses and praise him as the best player ever when he wins, regardless of who he played, even if he said in a press conference that there was no excuse for his loss. I'm certainly a Nadal fan, but I'm not utterly dismayed when he loses.
     
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    does anyone honestly believe that he will have better results with the blade? he is number 5 in the world right now; i don't think its a stick change that will help him overtake any of the big 4.
     
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    lol I was just kidding, I admire Nadal really, though I do think that racquet suits his very specific game

    Just courting controversy as usual :D
     
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    He's the only player in the top ten, currently, without a coach.

    If I were Tsonga, I'd be more concerned about finding another coach, instead of another racquet.
     
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    He used to play with the Wilson Kobra, I thought it was terrible. Can't argue with his racquet's results on the tour.
     
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    That new wildness since he switched to the APD+ is not from a racquet change as much as a spec change.

    His old wilson was very headlight; suiting his natural big hitting all court style.

    His current specs are more HH making it more difficult to change the direction of the ball, more reliant on the opponent's shot with the benefit of more power.

    He's now in essence using a more defensively spec'd frame.

    I agree he was nicer to watch with the old specs.
     
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  25. VAmazona

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    I think the racquet change to the Babolat and his change in game was dictated by his injuries. Sure with that Wilson (Hyper Prostaff 6.5) he made amazing plays (AO 08 highlights are insane), but he had to hustle around much more than I think his body could handle (he IS a big guy). This doesn't bode well for longevity, and longevity is what gives him more opportunities to do well (remember Taylor Dent?). Also, perhaps the Babolat handles the poly better?


    Or this is simply sports and it was the money...
     
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    At the end of the day Tsonga plays with an APD because Babolat pays him very well to do so. If Wilson, Head or Prince offered him a better $$ deal, I'm sure he would jump with little hesitation. Not saying the other brands are better or worse, it's just a money game and at his level he can adjust and play well with just about anything.
     
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    Can't he just use a smaller babolat frame, I swear he needs 95sq inch ...
     
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    Yeah, I thought the PST was the better fit. Can't argue with results though.:)
     
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    In his match against Murray he didnt hit a forehand winner until the end of the second set.

    Nothing to do with his racquet he wasn't using his strengths to any great effect.

    If he had started well he would have won imo
     
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    that's really ****in terrible...
     
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    I think you may be right, I have always been an all court player but I always like new modern tech, so I was never a fan of the six one tour, then I tried it and it was godly. Gong to get the six one prostaff 95. How do you use the aero at net, for me it was too unstable and I couldn't control anything.
     
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    I want to switch to a 95 wilson frame when my game improves, currently playing with a dunlop aerogel 4d (98 sq inch frame), but even now sometimes I feel like I need a slightly heavier/smaller frame. Dunno how a pro can play with a 100sq inch - I honestly couldn't play with anything more than 98sq inch with my 1HBH.
     
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    I'll tell you one thing, it won't be cool for his ranking.
     
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  34. Razoredge

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    Tsonga could be the GOAT if he just strung his racket a bit differently.
     
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    Overstatement of the year.
     
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    WPOAT worst post of the year @razoredge
     
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