Point of the Royal Family?

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  1. Kobble

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    Must suck to be famous.

    Rich, fine. But famous, forget it. Especially, some weird family with a long history of pretentiousness, that you must now live up to exactly as planned. Like Donald Trump's son. Does that not say, Mini Me? I know a guy who know looks and acts like the guy who put him into a retail business 30 years ago. They looked nothing alike when younger. Now, they dress alike, both are *******s, etc. It is a job. Can't people do a job and remain themselves? Disgusting.
     
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  2. sureshs

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    Royal family is a reassuring familiar concept in this world of rapid change.

    Apart from tourism and generating content for bandwidth (thus helping the communications industry), they are a bridge between the new UK and the Commonwealth countries, driving relations forward after the colonial days.
     
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  3. Ross K

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    This lot had the right idea in the 70's...

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    I like your analogy. But Ill take it a step further.
    Think of it as a zoo. This antiquated family being the odd nearly extinct creatures behind the bars.

    Only these caged animals are treated better and their inescapable cage is the paparazzi. They both have handlers though the royal families are slightly snootier.

    Like the real animals at the zoo, little girls and boys are the ones most mesmerized and captivated by them.
     
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    Congratulations to William and Kate. May they have a long, happy life together. BTW Kate's prettier than Diana. :evil:
     
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    Freddie and Corgies! Two of my favorite things!
     
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  9. sureshs

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    Well, they keep some traditions alive. Because of them, old palaces are preserved. Traditional shoe-makers survive on them by becoming designated suppliers. There are some fine things in life which are continued because of the royals which would otherwise be lost to mass commercialization. It is not enough to just have rich people - they may not have the sophisticated tastes.
     
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    Are both prince William and Harry intending to get a job? As far as I know, both have part time commitments to the royal forces but what do they do the rest of the time? They are both capable of working, I'm not in entirely "in the know" with regards to how the monarchy works. Are the princes even aloud to get a job? What is prince Harry going to do with the rest of his life since the chances of him being king are soo little?
     
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    i think its neat that britain is keeping tradition alive. they are doing away with the bad (Kate will be the first commoner) and keeping the good ( being a monarchy).
     
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    You would have thought this was already the case just by observation :lol:
     
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    I´m totally sick of the commercials, news and the other stuff all day on TV, on every single program..
    Incredibly annoying and I don´t even know who gives a dang about the whole wedding stuff and the "Royals".
    I mean it´s not like their doing anything special, their just some display dummies or figureheads or whatever.
     
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    The Queen is the Head of State so you'd have to seriously redesign the British political system absent the monarch, but the Royal Family is a circus act designed to advertise the national unity of the Great British People.

    In America this somewhat vacuous task is performed mainly by the President, who should really concentrate on political matters of more pressing import.
     
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    I hear this on CBC news today: "(Kate Middleton) has captured the hearts of millions".

    Really? Really? Captured the hearts? Of millions? I can't imagine why.

    Tv stations have been hyping up this wedding for weeks now and I can't can't begin to believe that anyone much cares.
     
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    Rich from someone who is currently getting his teeth fixed, people aren't as insecure as yourself thankfully.

    Can anyone answer this?

     
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  17. spaceman_spiff

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    Short answer: no.

    Their job is to be royalty, and their needs are taken care of. They will continue to serve in the military a bit, and they occasionally make appearances for charities and such, but that's it.

    Basically, they will be younger versions of Prince Charles. It's a nice gig if you can get it.
     
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    Their job is to look quaintly archaic and British for the tourist cameras.
     
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  19. Thud and blunder

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    It's difficult to quantify, but this royalty lark must surely be a huge net positive for the UK. Tourists aren't flocking there for the food, weather, breathtaking landscapes, beaches and sheer joie de vivre of the local populace...and yet the UK is one of the biggest tourist markets; the heritage card is huge, and the royals are a pretty big piece of it.
     
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    I see it like this:

    Economically:
    Cost of the royals to the British economy in 2010: 37 million
    Estimated tourist benefit of Royal attractions to the UK economy: 320 million

    Estimated "net worth" of the Royal Family: £600 million
    Estimated "net yearly income" of the Royal Family: £120 million
    Estimated tax paid as a %: 57% (£68.4 million i.e. more than the cost!)

    All figures are NAO study Nov 2010 (i.e. independent and credible).

    Economically they are value.

    The argument that we are paying for the wedding is essentially countered by the economic benefit. They (Treasury) reckon that retailers in London will pay in tax over 10 times the cost of the royal wedding over the several days due to extra sales.

    Socially:
    I think for some people (particularly the older generation) there is an element of social cohesion and a point of consisitency in a century (hell even 50yrs) of real significant change. For the rest of us I don't think it matters, there's certainly no negative.

    Morally
    Morally I don't agree with it. I just find the elevation of this one family above all others due to birth strange and uncomfortable. However I'm not sufficiently put out by it to really care and it seems to make a lot of people happy so I see that as of greater value than my minimal moral disquiet.

    Overall
    Really I see it as one of those things that seems to give pleasure to a large number of people and doesn't really impact everyone else that much. It also is good economical value and provides me with a day off once in a while so they can get married/have a jubilee/frolic with Corgis.

    Overall I'm not for it but I'm not against it. Happy to go with the status quo on this one

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  21. Bobby Jr

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    Nice post overall origmarm.

    I can't conjure up a reason for the royal family in this day and age but, likewise, don't think doing away with the monarchy just because it's a legacy of the past has much merit either.

    In many walks of life you can see people everywhere saying things aren't as good as they used to be - their street, the beaches, the parks, travelling, food etc etc... I think if the whole idea of the monarchy was gotten rid of in many years people would feel the same.

    Change for the sake of change is utterly pointless. A lot of good comes out of the things the English royal family (and other monarchies around the world) are involved in - running or being patrons of charities etc. It would be a shame to not have people doing those things with such dedication - and I assure you we'll never see whole hoards of Bill & Melinda Gates-type foundations popping up from ex-business people to do this sort of work.
     
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    No point really, just be there, look nice....
     
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    Whatever their net worth is it was simply handed to the current family in order maintain the political lynchpin that the English establishment has feared losing since the Commonwealth. The real necessity is to transform the family into simple citizens respected for its historical legacy but with no political functions whatsoever.
     
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    Thanks origmarm: interesting economic bit, but I'd feel very uncomfortable and appreciate your "moral" view here. I think that'd be the deciding factor for me.
     
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    The American Royal Family

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    Best post in the thread (by far).

    I wouldn't be getting all morally upset about it though. Just about every single family of wealth, power and prestige tries to preserve a lot of that for their kids, nothing out of the ordinary.
     
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    The American version of this (Snookie, Jenny McCarthy, Paris Hilton, etc.) is actually worse in many respects because they are typically so dumb, don't bring in any tourist money, think they know everything and actually have dedicated followers in every sense of the word.

    Scary factoid: 24% of parents say they place “some trust” in information provided by celebrities such as McCarthy about the safety of vaccines! :confused:

    http://healthland.time.com/2011/04/...xpert-a-quarter-of-parents-trust-celebrities/
     
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    All these stats are supportive of who is on tv right. Sounds fishy. Just watch a talk show, these entertainment people pump each others name up. I don't believe anyone cares. And I'll say this, good on the British for not having Oprah, J Lopez, Simon Cowell, Piers, Rachel Ray, Jerry Seinfeld, Chris Rock, Rosie O'Donnel, Ellen Degeneres, Sarah Palin, Howard Stern, Paris Hilton, The Kardashians, Kiss (the tongue creep), Charlie Sheen and all those trash figures out of the Royal Wedding.

    My hat is off to you for keeping that garbage out of your social events. Amazing job.
     
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    $163 million for this wedding? And who paid for it? The poor people of England....
    These kids could of gotten married in Vegas for $75 (marriage license fee) and Elvis could of been their minister in his personal wedding chapel there!
    At least "Prince" Harry didn't come dressed up as a German N A Z I, like he did at a Halloween party a few years ago. Mighty royal of him....
     
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    To be fair, when I saw the number of people lining the streets and the general good feeling around the Country over the past few weeks, it's made me think that the Royal family is maybe more important than I realised.

    I wasn't interested in the wedding at all but it's done alot of good, there were some amazing street parties with people and communities getting together etc.. There was also a high resolution picture taken at Trafalgar Square where you could see every individuals face, there must of been thousands at that spot alone, Brits of all different backgrounds and ages.
     
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    Yes i wonder too.. By the same token , why do we still pretend to have a democracy? The country seems by and larger and for some time now to be run by the big interest groups.
     
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