Poly in an old stick...

Discussion in 'Classic Racquet Talk' started by vwfye, Apr 5, 2013.

  1. vwfye

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    I just restrung both my Pro Borons, one in synthetic at 55lbs and one with poly at 48lbs and took them both out for a hit. I never, ever thought I would say this, but I like a full bed of poly at this low tension in a flat beam stick!!! It is awesome! I tried it once before at 55lbs and didn't care for it at all, but this sub 50lb version actually has feel as well as spin.

    Okay, back to your regularly scheduled racket talk...
     
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  2. gtshark1

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    The old classic racquets with newer tech poly has left an impression on me recently as well. Still ongoing some testing but this combo feels great. Kind of confirms new racquet technology isnt the answer.....
     
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  3. Sanglier

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    The bestest, sweetest, crispiest frame I've hit with so far, strung with poly at 50 lbs:

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    It came to me unstrung; this is the first set of strings I've put on it (Kuebler frames of this type and vintage are very experimentation-friendly: their orientation-agnostic holes are perfectly aligned for both conventional and diagonal stringing). Even though I don't have a non-poly, conventionally-strung control to test this setup against, I would go out on a limb and predict that it cannot be bested using a higher tension nylon string job. :)

    Everyone has his/her own "Goldilocks" zone when it comes to frame and string bed stiffness, weight, balance, etc. This racquet is a tiny bit too light for my liking in stock form, but in all other respects, this frame/string combination is about as close to being dead center in my Goldilocks zone as I've ever experienced. Plus, it makes a wonderful "shhhhh-Tweeng" sound on impact :)
     
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  4. v-verb

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    Bad *** stick!!!
    :):)
     
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  5. joe sch

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    Love that string job, very cool pattern.
    Would really look awesome with a hybrid or tribrid !
     
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  6. Sanglier

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    Thanks for the comments!

    This one took nearly as long as the modified spaghetti Superform I did last year, mainly because it got pretty confusing in some spots which string was supposed to go over which. It's a one piece job that began conventionally with the mains. Like Autodidactic Player and his GeoStar, I too had to rely on starting and floating clamps in a couple of places to make the transitions.

    The pattern that I originally drew up on paper had no shared holes and formed a perfect 'star' (making me suspect that Kuebler had tested this exact setup at some point), but the sides looked a little too 'empty' once everything was in place. As it turned out, there was just enough residual string left to add those six peripheral mains and diagonals, which ruined the visuals a little, but might have contributed some additional stability to the string bed.

    Regardless, I was pleasantly surprised by the deep-fried buttery feel of the end result. :)
     
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  7. spinovic

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    A tribrid. Now that would be cool. Has anyone ever tried it?
     
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  8. Sander001

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    I have a Professional Staff 85 strung with a full bed of Professional Line II 1.20 @ 53lbs and it plays pretty nicely. The racquet is so dense and heavy it absorbs all shock so it's very comfortable even with this full poly.

    I also strung my Prestige Classic 600 with Black Code but have yet to have a hit.
     
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  9. gtshark1

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    If possible please post a review of the Prestige/Black Code setup. That's a string I'd be interested for some of my old ones...
     
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  10. OTMPut

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    My Borg Pro is strung up with Big banger original 16g.
    I do play some club league games with it every now and then.

    I strung it up at 40 lbs. Must be in the early 30's now. Complements the super-flexy frame.

    Funny, if you think about it, Borg Pro is rated as a "stiff racquet" on the frame! I got the stiffness rating measured and it was about 28!!
     
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  11. retrowagen

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    The Kuebler Elves made some sweet racquets!

    His earlier models resembled the early Kneissl monoshaft mids. And you just have to love the fact that these were, indeed, designed by a rocket scientist. :)
     
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  12. Bobby Jr

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    Stringing my PS85s with a hybrid of poly/sun gut has given them a new life. I still get the feel I like but with even more spin/control.
     
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  13. eman resu

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    Are the weight, HL balance and foam filling from these 80s racquets enough to compensate for the harshness of a full poly set up (and I mean dead poly)?
     
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  14. Tamiya

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    Poly ok with low tension in heavy older frames... but no huge benefit or me.
     
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  15. Sander001

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    Well it may not be what you're looking for because I actually strung up the Prestige in an 18x10 pattern. It's strung at 60/65 with Black Code 16[supposed to be very stiff] for experimentation. If I strung it normally, I would've used the 18 gauge and strung it in the low 40's. I'll probably do that later.

    I only play with the Pro Staff very rarely. The full poly has been in there for months but has seen only 2 or 3hrs of court time. Doesn't feel dead and is one of the most comfortable racquets I have[I use full poly in nearly all my racquets]. I tried one of the newer 6.0's from a few years ago and they feel much less comfortable so your mileage may vary but I wouldn't want to use full poly in those.
     
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  16. jimbo333

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    Yes, when Kuebler started designing tennis rackets, he found it easy and was heard to say on many occasions, when challenged with design/manufacturing problems, it's not rocket science lol:)
     
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