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Discussion in 'Stringing Techniques / Stringing Machines' started by Kal-El 34, Dec 22, 2008.

  1. sstchur

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    Yeah, I kinda suspect you are right. That's sorta how it feels like it's going so far. I'm not quite as fast on the Babolat right now, but I'm not a lot slower. Where I'm maybe just under 20min on the Gamma, I'm just a few min over 20 on the babolat. But I'm pretty sure I was more efficient and smoother with it today than yesterday, so improving already. We'll see. I'll keep you posted.
     
  2. zapvor

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    i agree with you as well-the price point doesnt justify it. i wonder who they market the sensor to.......

    edit: the gammas offer such a incentive to buy but i just cant decide you know
     
  3. sstchur

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    What do you have now? Or do you not have a personal machine yet?
     
  4. zapvor

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    i got nothing:(
     
  5. diredesire

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    No, seriously. I'm first in line.

    As far as the banana rails, I think you're right, though. The only time you will struggle with actually moving the base (where it's awkward) is re-positioning from having a clamp base pointing towards 12 vs towards 6. The banana style rail will actually be much better in this case, as the base swivels out of the way without having to reposition the top-side as well. If you want to keep the clamp head in the same position relative to the frame edge, the curve should also help. I think re-learning the muscle memory is probably the biggest pain here.

    Hey sstchur, can you take a picture of the manual release method? I'm not mentally picturing this taper release.
     
  6. zapvor

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    lol its yours man
     
  7. Roger2003Wimbledon

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    Can FSK get his ban overturned? All he did was troll the troll.
     
  8. diredesire

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    This would be a question for an admin, try the "Contact Us" link at the bottom right corner of any forum page. Good luck with that one, though ;)
     
  9. Roger2003Wimbledon

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    Thank you for replying. Hopefully FSK reads this.
     
  10. sstchur

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    Yeah, I'll try to do that in the not-too-distant future for you.
     
  11. ProStringing

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    Hi diredesire,

    The taper that I am describing is on the bottom edge of the levers on the base clamps. It is curved and allows enough purchase to release the base clamps with moderate finger pressure.

    The pictures below show it quite well:

    Hope this can be of help,

    ProStringing
     
  12. zapvor

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    amazing pictures. how much does it weigh
     
  13. Kot_Bigemot

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    Thanks for pictures. I am not sure I would be comfortable using those release knobs at the bottom of the clamps.
    I like my Star 5. Or may be I am just too used to it :)
     
  14. struggle

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    you need to paint that dresser/stand. c'mon dude.

    otherwise, i'm jealous.
     
  15. sstchur

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    It's heavy! I had to pick the thing up myself because I had no one to help me get it from the apartment where I bought it to the elevator and down to the garage into my car. VERY heavy! Of course I took the machine off the stand and did it in two trips, but the stand is not the heavy part.
     
  16. diredesire

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    Hey PS, thanks! You can wedge a finger in the bottom dimple to pop the release up, basically? Sounds like a good backup option... I wonder how usable it is in practice, though.
     
  17. sstchur

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    It's actually pretty easy to do. I've used it a few time when the string clamp was sorta stuck and wouldn't fall on its own. Either that, or your method of punching the clamp down. Either one works.
     
  18. diredesire

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    diredesire method of releasing locked clamps:
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    So you just wedge a thumb down there and lift up? Is there any latching feel, or will it just pop? I should have played with the clamps some more when we were out there...
     
  19. sstchur

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    You don't even really have to "wedge" your thumb in there. You can just use a finger at the base of the lever and lift up and it releases fairly easily.
     
  20. diredesire

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    Sounds like it's very usable, in that case. PS above mentioned to remove the gravity release pin (which seems to be a simple mechanical release mechanism). Can you manually release the clamp with the pin still in place? Is there a necessity to remove the pin, or is it just for consistency's sake in the work flow?
     
  21. sstchur

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    You can manually release it whether or not the pin is in there. If you remove the pin (which is trivial) then the only way to release is manual.

    Thing is, it bugs me that it doesn't auto release all the time. I feel like, if you're gonna have that feature, it should work!
     
  22. diredesire

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    A machine design expert would have to correct me if I'm wrong here, but I think the reason clamps get stuck in the up position is due to ANY slop in the shaft/sleeve of the clamp. It costs significant amounts of money to improve mating tolerances, so if there's any play in the base or the string shifts back and tilts the clamp shaft, there'll be frictional sticking. I actually preload my clamp to do this on purpose (to a certain extent). I generally release my bases slightly earlier than the clamp head (although it's probably simultaneous enough to say it's at the same time). I imagine this would also be semi-aggravating behavior for my muscle memory/habits, as well.

    Edit: it might make sense to move this to its own thread, I'm probably contributing to a huge off-topic mess in this thread...
     
  23. sstchur

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    Things are looking up for DD! I am just not feeling this machine. I can't deny that the build quality is fantastic (better then the Gamma for sure). The string clamp "feel" is amazing, and the sturdiness of the table and mount system are excellent as well.

    In fact, the support system is so good, that I don't think I can go back to my Gamma after seeing how well the Sensor supports racquets.

    But beyond that, I'm really really underwhelmed by this machine. While the string clamp "feel" is great, the design is, IMO, inferior to Gamma's. Gamma's thin-profile 5-tooth clamps fit well in any string pattern. I hate the Babolat angled 3-tooth design. It's terrible. I want the Babolat feel in the Gamma design.

    The brake on the Sensor is truly pathetic.

    The pull speed on the Sensor (and it's a shame that there is only one) is too fast.

    The it DOES overshoot ref tension. Always, and sometimes by a lot!

    The bases system is terrible too. That gravity release thing only works 50% of the time and the rest of the time you have to do it manually. It's trivial to do it manually but it doesn't "feel" as smooth as it does with the sideways switch action style clamps.

    This machine is a real disappointment for me so far. Still going to try hard to give it more of a fair shake. I'm trying really hard not to rush to judgment, but it's getting harder and harder to think this machine is worth $3500 (let alone $6200 or whatever ridiculous price it goes for new!!)
     
  24. zapvor

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    agreed wouldnt pay that much for the sensor. looks like DD getting a new machine!
     
  25. sstchur

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    Congrats to DD on his new Babolat Sensor!
     
  26. zapvor

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    whatttttt!!!!!!!!! DD post pics!
     
  27. sstchur

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    He doesn't have it yet, but he will soon. And I will post pics of my P6000 once I have it :)
     
  28. diredesire

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    I might post nude pics, even. I will probably at some point take the machine apart for my own curiosity's sake. (I'm an electrical engineer)

    I'll probably pick the machine up in <2 weeks, Looks like I might need to find a buyer for my 5800 soon :(
     
  29. J.Lee42

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    ;)

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  30. zapvor

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    hahhaha that would be awesome
     
  31. zapvor

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  33. zapvor

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    sick machine. how does the tilt work?
     
  34. oest10

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    Not a Baiardo but it seems to do the trick for me ;)

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  35. chuckd

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    Posted this in the "tennis gear" thread- figured I'd post it here, too. Once I got the slipping clamp bases sorted out, it's worked perfectly for me. Please, pardon the mess.

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  36. ls206

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    ^^ I noticed you've got one of those wheely string straighteners, is it any good?
     
  37. djNEiGht

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    ^^^is that a Rane underneath those hats?
     
  38. chuckd

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    It works better on some racquets than others, but it works.

    Why yes it is. A 56.
     
  39. sstchur

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    I have one. I didn't pay for it -- I insisted that it be given to me free with a large order. Let's just say I'm glad I insisted and didn't pay for it.
     
  40. Irvin

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    Steve that does not sound like a resounding endorsement.
     
  41. sstchur

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    Yeah, I would not give it a ringing endorsement. If you can get one for free, go for it. Otherwise, save your money,
     
  42. vinigrando

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    My Sensor "Carbon Fiber Edition":

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    It was covered with carbon fiber vinyl because I bought it used (+-US$2k) and it has various signs of use. I already have to complete the work to make it looks better in my home.
     
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    ...I actually have to...
     
  44. zapvor

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    wow very cool! how did you do this
     
  45. Hankenstein

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    Search the electronic bay for carbon vinyl. Does not cost so much. For example item nr 200940747434

    Then you just place it over the machine and heat with a hairdryer or heat gun and add some pressure to it. There are heaps of instruction videos on youtube how to do it. It take some practice to get it so good as on this machine though.
     
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    BTW; Just got this machine. A Pro´s Pro P-100

    Have strung 2 frames so far. No problem at all. Very good and easy to use machine. For the price it´s nothing that beats this machine

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  47. sstchur

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    Goodbye Sensor. Hello Prince 6000!

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  48. zapvor

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    very cool! thanks for the info. how many machines do you have??
     
  49. Dags

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    We don't have access to the photo! (you little tease, you)
     
  50. sstchur

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    Ack! Sorry, I will fix momentarily
     

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