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  1. ShankServeAce

    ShankServeAce New User

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    Being new to TTW, I really enjoy reading member experiences on a number of subjects. Thought it would be a great idea if members posted their league/tourney/recreational match experiences in one section. So since I started this thread....

    I play in a USTA 3.5 league. Lost today 4 and 2. The heat is starting to pick up here in FL. Despite the score, decently even match vs the top team in the city. Scary moment... Partner really moving sluggish and starting to look pale. Forced him to down liquids and luckily that did trick. Too bad we couldn't douse our game with liquids to help us win.

    How did the rest of you all out there fair?
     
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  2. roman40

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    Super hot day today in Nor Cal, I thought I'd start cramping or get a heatstroke. Won my 4.0 singles match 7-6, 6-2, but both me and my opponent were barely hanging on.

    Restrung my rackets before the match, but put syngut in the mains, and co-polys in the crosses (did it the other way around before). More power, less control, so it took some time to adjust. I will try not to experiment like this before the match again.
     
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  3. J_R_B

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    Won 7-5 6-0 today vs a previously unbeaten doubles team. Now 6-0 on the season (5-0 doubles, 1-0 singles) at 4.0.

    4.0 #1 SINGLES GOAT, BABY!
     
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  4. OrangePower

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    I am unbeaten over the last few years at both 4.0 and 5.0!!!
     
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  5. gmatheis

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    me too, and at 6.0 and 7.0 as well

    no pro has ever beaten me
     
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  6. Cindysphinx

    Cindysphinx G.O.A.T.

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    I'm having the worst season in the history of tennis seasons.

    I cannot remember the last time I hit an overhead winner. I hit overheads like I dread hitting overheads, 'cause I dread hitting overheads.

    I am struggling to win against 3.5 players I could have beaten easily last year.

    The team I captain has had *three* horrific disagreements on court, complete with people crying, refusing to shake hands, and announcing they are through.

    I am dreading the summer 8.0 mixed season, but maybe I won't have to hit any overheads.

    My ankles hurt. I think I have tendonitis and I have no idea why.

    I need a drink.
     
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  7. cll30

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    Check your shoes. Do some research - you may not be wearing the best ones for your type of feet (or perhaps the ones you're using are just worn out). Custom insoles can also help. In addition, stretching is very important with respect to tendonitis.
     
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  8. Fuji

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    Cindy, it's okay. I'll come play 8.0 mixed with you this season and we'll win Nationals.

    Cheer up, it's just tennis after all! :razz:

    -Fuji
     
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  9. WhiteStripes

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    Don't want to scare you, but you should definitely have your affected ankle(s) checked out. I had soreness in my right ankle for several weeks, but nevertheless played through the discomfort. Initially, I thought I had tweaked the ligaments somehow, although my ankle never rolled over like with an ankle sprain. I figure it would go away eventually, but it lingered on. Ended up being a stress fracture.
     
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  10. Gut4Tennis

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    63 63 me vs him
     
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  11. cluckcluck

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    I played a 4.5 on Friday night, singles. It was a warm evening, won 6-4, 6-2.
     
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  12. floydcouncil

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    Won 6 & 6... summer USTA 5.0+ league.
    Lost 1 & 2... mixed troubles :(
     
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  13. leroy_sunset

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    Played a pretty good singles player on Saturday (he came in to our match undefeated this season). I won 2 and 3.

    The thing is, he was the quintessential "head games" opponent. He wouldn't warm up properly: hitting winners to the corners when we're at the baseline, hitting angled put-away volleys when he's warming up at net, lobbing over my head and passing when I am warming up at net, then hitting terrible lobs for my overhead warmup, then hitting more than 3 serves during his turn.

    Then he really starts the headgames - randomly serving as I turn to face him, taking a lot of time between serves then no time at all. He would only verbally call the score when he was ahead in his service game (had to discuss game score twice because of this). He'd flip the score card after every game he won, just as I walked up to serve. He'd go off to other courts to collect the errant 3rd ball and take his sweet time. He never gave me a courtesy 1st serve when I would have to clear a ball from the adjacent court (I gave him at least 3 1st serves like this). On one of my service games, I hit a 1st serve long. He turned around, walked back and collected the ball from the curtain, then hit it back to me! Just to mess with me.

    Then the bad calls. First he started by calling the lines very close, I would say unsportsmanly. Pretty cheap, but whatever. Then he started making terrible calls on winners. Once, I blasted a winner DTL on a 2nd serve in the ad court. I cheered my clear, inside the line winner, then he waited a second and called it out. Unreal.

    I took my revenge by body serving him and disrespecting his 2nd serve by blasting it at his feet. Oh, and winning.
     
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  14. dizzlmcwizzl

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    I am a brand new 4.5 this season ... yesterday had a match against a couple 4.0's playing up. We won with breadsticks.

    Seems to me the gap between 4.0 and 4.5 is bigger as a 4.5 looking down than it is as a 4.0 looking up.
     
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  15. J_R_B

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    That's because you were a 4.5 playing 4.0 last year. LOL.
     
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  16. dizzlmcwizzl

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    I have you know, I earned that computer rating ... through many years of getting my but kicked.
     
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  17. Cindysphinx

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    Yeah, I'm going to see the doc tomorrow. Booked the sports podiatrist rather than the OS -- hope that was the right decision.

    I don't think it is shoes. I changed my running shoes twice, and I've been rotating through four pairs of tennis shoes that are in good condition. It responds very well to icing, which is weird. It is most pronounced when I am on the ball of my feet, e.g. split step. I haven't been on a run in six weeks. :(

    You think my reluctance to split step, push off, chase anything down or move my feet during points has anything to do with all this losing? ")
     
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  18. J_R_B

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    I am the 4.0 #1 Singles GOAT and you kicked my butt, so therefore, you had to be a 4.5 player. QED. Everyone who has beaten me in the last 5 years has been bumped.
     
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  19. roman40

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    You can only be 4.0 GOAT for one year, then you get bumped, otherwise you're not a 4.0 GOAT. Sorry.
     
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  20. JoelDali

    JoelDali G.O.A.T.

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    The Donnay sponsored 4.0 GOATs are GOATing this year in Eastern. Several bagels and breadsticks VS 3.5 unsponsored Wilson shoe wearing newbs.
     
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  21. sureshs

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    Age taking its toll?
     
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  22. ralentor

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    Played my final USTA 3.5 singles match yesterday against a guy who had beaten another player I had lost to in straight sets last fall. Despite being at least 20 yrs my senior, he could move quite well and I had to move corner to corner several times to win points. I hit a ton of DFs and ended up breaking myself twice but served well enough when it mattered. Won the match 6-3, 6-2 to finish the season 6 and 2.
     
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  23. The Isomotion31

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    3.0 singles on Saturday 6-4, 6-4

    3.5 doubles on Sunday 6-7(7-4), 6-4, 10-8(tiebreak 3rd set)

    It was a good weekend of tennis for me.
     
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  24. OrangePower

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    If you think the gap is bigger looking down a level as opposed to looking up... try your hand at 5.0 :)
     
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  25. J_R_B

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    Come back and talk to me when your 4.0 video has 40,000 views. I AM THE 4.0 #1 SINGLES GOAT!!!
     
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  26. OrangePower

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    Grasshopper, you have much to learn...

    Part of being your level's GOAT is knowing how to dominate while still avoiding the bump :)
     
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  27. J_R_B

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    AND to punish those who dare to beat you by being bumped. That is the key. If you get everyone bumped who beats you, eventually, you're the GOAT!
     
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  28. dizzlmcwizzl

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    I can only go with what I know .... I worked really hard to become a 4.5. So when I was at the top of 4.0 in our section it did not seem like much of a jump to be competitive at 4.5.

    However, the two guys we played yesterday are near the top 4.0s. However, they obviously were intimidated before we even began. They played timidly and could not handle the pace or our movement at the net.

    I have seen you write of being disappointed to show up for 4.5 matches only to get matched up with 4.0's playing up. I felt that for the first time yesterday.
     
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  29. J_R_B

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    OK, so I've talked about this a couple times in the past, but I had a match last year where I played a young guy who played in high school but not in college who was getting back into competition for the first time in 5 years last year. I won 0 & 0, but at the time I said that was deceiving, he had a better game than other people I didn't double bagle and better results against people better than me, and I didn't feel like I should beat him that badly. I just happened to win all the important points.

    I played the guy again tonight and won 6-1 4-6 6-2, so in the span of a year, our results went from double bagel to a three set fight. He did improve (especially in his mental game), but enough to turn a double bagel in to a dogfight? This is how just a couple points here and there can make a world of difference in a box score. Tonight, in the second set, I was winning fairly easily on my serve and had a TON of chances on his serve, but instead of converting every one like I did last summer, he saved every one of them. This is really THREE points we're talking about. I had about 7 or 8 break chances in the second set. Last year, I converted three, this year none. Suddenly, serving at 4-5, I made a couple errors, he hit a winner, and now I have a big problem on my hands. Three break points. That's the difference between a 6-1 6-0 match similar to last year's line and a three set battle.

    Tennis is a funny sport sometimes.
     
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  30. OrangePower

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    Agree... just saying maybe now you are ready for the next challenge... to try on some 5.0s for size.

    I have yet to beat a legit 5.0 in singles, although I have come 'close' (being a bit charitable here). And my 4.5 partner and I have a few wins at 9.5 combo vs 5.0/4.5 pairs.

    And of course the 5.0s probably feel about playing me the same as I feel about playing a 4.0 :)
     
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  31. chatt_town

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    "what chu saiiiid"...:) You are telling the truth about those shoes. I guess it came with age but at 44 I have to buy real good shoes now. I use to go into the outlet...pick up a pair of nike size 10's and purchase them without trying them on...none of that anymore. :) I've switched to barricades. That cut down on back problems.

     
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  32. roman40

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    You can spin it any way you like, if you lose to other 4.0, you ain't a 4.0 goat. And if you avoid 4.5 bump on purpose, that just makes you a wimp.
     
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  33. J_R_B

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    I've been trying to get bumped for years. I've gone undefeated for whole seasons, played up, killed people. I was 14-2 last year with a double bagel, two 1 & 0 matches, and two 0 & 2 matches. The only thing I've succeeded at is getting anyone who dared beat me bumped. 4.0 #1 SINGLES GOAT!!!!
     
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  34. roman40

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    If 0,1,2 matches are against weak 4.0 players, it doesn't really help with the bump. You have to beat decent 4.0 players with those scores to get more notice. 14/2 is a great record, any success at sectionals/districts/nationals?
     
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  35. JoelDali

    JoelDali G.O.A.T.

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    I have found that if I add lead tape and silicon to my handles, and wear legacy Vapour 6 to matches it increases my chances for getting bumped up. You have to intimidate the computer with other factors to enhance your bumpness and bumpability quotient.

    4.5 GOATness requires new levels of sophisticated equipment prowess both on the court and within the Internet tube infrastructure.
     
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  36. J_R_B

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    I can only play who I play. I can't demand high rated opponents to blow away. My teams were unfortunately out-ringered last year, so I didn't play in districts. One team in particular should have gone, but lost to a self-rated powerhouse that subsequently flamed out after three guys got DQ'd at sectionals.
     
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  37. g4driver

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    Last year I beat two 3.5B players who were both bumped end of the year to 4.0 -- Both players had two losses at singles last year and were still bumped end of year. I lost one match at doubles and no bump. I am one of the greatest sandbaggers in SC according to many. :( Sorry, I didn't like that accusation so I vowed to get bumped by playing better than last year.

    So my 2013 Record:
    23-2 USTA League Overall Record (both losses to unbeaten self-rated players, a 9-0 3.5S and a 5-0 4.0S) --the 3.5S was clearly the better player.
    17-1 Men's 3.5 (5-0 at State in singles - The only loss to the 3.5S during the regular season)
    1-1 Men's 4.0 (Loss was to the 4.0S)

    So 19-2 is my resume for my new DNTRP. If I am not bumped, I have to believe USTA DNTRP's system is completely broken.

    I am adamant a win-loss percentage factor could help flatten out the ratings pushing more 4.5s to 5.0 and creating a real 4.5 /5.0 distinction to get many young ex college players out of 4.5 where they completely dominate other 4.5s. Can't figure out why the USTA can't see this. There is a thread about the 4.5/5.0 dilemma---

    When a player as to tank a court to keep his rating down, and their team loses 2-3, the tanking might ease up a bit. But I guess, the guy could simply tank against a weaker team when he knows his team is going to win. Pathetic - but it happens
     
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  38. dizzlmcwizzl

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    Hey ... we beat them at sectionals before any of their guys were DQ'd!
     
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  39. J_R_B

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    1. You guys were 4.0 GOATs last year, too.
    2. They were also missing both singles players from their districts lineup, one of whom (C rated) had already gone back to college in Miami and the other who certainly would have been DQ'd had he played sectionals.
    3. They were also missing one of their top doubles teams who were mercenaries that were playing for their home team from S Jersey instead.

    Nevertheless, beating that team pre-DQs was still a fine accomplishment, and I tip my hat to you. We tried twice and failed.
     
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  40. JoelDali

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    I watched the top 3.5 Eastern GOAT last night practicing at Roosevelt and he was very intimidating and solid. Would crush most rising 4.0s all day.
     
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    FWIW...Quickest way for you to get bumped is to play at 4.5.
     
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  42. dizzlmcwizzl

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    How would he do against a former 4.5 with a 6.0 lefty serve that is now a falling 4.0? What if that same player used to play in A/opens in the 70's?
     
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  43. dizzlmcwizzl

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    He knows ....
     
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  44. ShankServeAce

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    Won 3 and 2 today. Played only match this season on hard court, all other matches on clay. Being in Florida and temperatures rising you really appreciate clay courts. After match we to make a call and apparently phone overheated as a warning message appeared on the lock screen. Word to the wise... Put your iPhones on the INNER pockets of your tennis bags!
     
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  45. Brian11785

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    Played in my first USTA tournament this weekend. 3.5 singles.

    Lost in the first round against a self-rated player who plays in the Champ (2 levels above 3.5) non-USTA singles league at the club. 4 and 1. I was up 4-1 in the first set and had two break points to go up 5-1. Playing out of my mind. Then we had a bunch of long games.....none of which went my way. But the second set, I was emotionally spent. The guy went on to lose in the second round to the eventual winner of the tournament.

    Played the consolation bracket.
    Match 1: Was down a set and 0-3 against this player with no groundstrokes, but a sound strategy: don't go for anything, wait for a short ball, hit an inside-out forehand to the corner and wait for the backhand lob. For some reason, he stopped coming forward as much and, when he did, my lobs became magically on point.
    Match 2: A guy with very good strokes and a good serve. I didn't try to go for too much. About this time, the heat really started doing things to my string tension, and I felt like I couldn't keep a ball in if I tried to hit winners. Outsteadied the guy 4 and 2.
    Match 3 (semi): The moonballingest pusher I have ever seen. The guy was in his 60s (I'm 28 ), so I decided to try to beat him at his own game; I hit a few winners here and there, but mostly I just stayed back and lobbed the ball back to him as he did me. After two hours and 15 minutes, we had a ten point superbreaker. I resigned myself to "not hit a winner." Sure enough, we had about a dozen 20-shot rallies. I got pulled in to the net and could have gone for a putaway, but I decided to just keep grinding, to make the point that I was in no hurry and could do this for hours. The strategy worked. 10-6 in the third. I don't think pushers like to be outpushed. He left the court pretty coldly.
    Match 4 (final): I had only one hour in between matches, so I was pretty spent for this. My opponent had won in under an hour, 4 and 0, in the semis. So I assume I am in trouble. He ends up calling three balls out before they landed (in) within the first three games, so I call over an official. He stops hooking but at one point i hit a backhand down the line, six inches from the line. He looks over to the official looking for the call. Really.....
    Anyway, I was up a break 6-5 about to serve it out. We were sitting in the small sliver of shade on the court during the changeover when another official told us that were taking changeovers that were twice as long as they should be. Upon hearing this, my opponent immediately said that he was feeling lightheaded and was forfeiting the match.

    So yeah, winning consolation....not a bad first tournament.
     
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