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  1. dozu

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    2 official announcements before I go play 'real tennis', you know the kind with 'winning' as the goal.

    1 - official hats off to LeeD, that 3.0 was dead on.

    2 - official apology to fellow TWers, my initial guestimation of 4.0-5.0 was really off base... shame on me.

    ok, will be back in a couple of hours...
     
  2. HunterST

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    This is seriously and utterly out of hand. You guys are saying that sennoc is immature and stupid, yet you're the ones bullying people over the internet. Looking up his results to embarrass him, making fun of his language skills, and disparaging his playing ability are purposefully malicious acts. Yes, the guy said some things that were a little silly, but you're all acting just as childishly by ganging up on him and making hostile remarks. Now, someone will point out that he has posted combative remarks as well, but you have to consider that the guy has dozens of posters ganging up on him and saying he sucks at tennis. It would be hard not to feel personally attacked. If he's really so silly, shouldn't you all show a greater level of maturity and disregard his comments? You all know and agree that his volleys are not superior to Nadal's, so what is to gain from attacking this guy?
     
  3. TennisCoachFLA

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    sennoc, thank you for the lesson. But I am covered. I learned the game from Rick Macci, Sekou Bangoura, Emilio Sanchez-Vicario, Nick Saviano.

    Perhaps we don't have you 'expertise' on technique, but we produce winner after winner. That is why our students play tennis, to win, using whatever form the competition requires to get the job done.

    The world is full of guys who can use fancy words and brag about their technique. I would rather hang out with the winners, despite their form....they attract a lot better looking women.
     
  4. Power Player

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    No, none of us have ever played in the sun at noon. Especially not in Florida.

    And how dare they use those Prince balls? Are they insane? Hitting partner of mine DARED to pull out used Dunlops last night and I beat him senseless for thinking to insult my tennis gear like that. After a ride to the local hospital to get patched up, he called and thanked me for the life lesson and promised to never do it again.
     
  5. sennoc

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    Yeah. I do not play at noon of the hottest day of the year, I do not play at sunset on west-east oriented courts and I do not play ill.

    You do? That doesn't sound reasonable.
     
  6. TennisCoachFLA

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    He drew first blood. Lighten up, you are taking an internet forum way to seriously.
     
  7. theZig

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    this thread makes me wonder why i bother coming back to these forums sometimes.. then i'm reminded to get some popcorn and coke.
     
  8. Ajtat411

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    I agree, a lot of people here are immature, like me, although I'm in my 30s. I believe there are men that will be immature until the day they die regarding ego's. Everyone has an ego and when someone claims they are better then that is a direct challenge to the ego.

    I don't have a problem with the guy, but I think people are just bored and it's easy to bully someone through the computer. When you're face to face, people are different.
     
  9. Automatix

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    His results are public info at least from the journalist cups (those 1st round losses).

    I am a recreational player and because of my work I play 1-2 times a month and currently I am not playing at all. It's pure fun for me. I try to attend our forum tournament (I am one of the administrators of TenisNET, the biggest internet tennis discussion board in Poland) which was usually held once a year and currently takes place 2 times a year. However due to lack of time I simply cannot travel to Warsaw.

    I've never seen him play live. I just now his results and what kind of a person he is because he was banned from our forum.

    I wouldn't say that. I remember his statement that he's going to win some tournament and he lost in the 1st round of the main tournament and in the 1st round of the "cheer up tournament" (it's a side tournament for the people who lose in their first matches).

    Nah! He posts the same rubbish on the country discussion boards and is the laughingstock of the country. If I remember correctly he lost in the 1st round of the last journalists cup and lost in the 2nd round of the "cheer up tournament".
     
  10. arche3

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    Sennoc is a grown man. He can defend himself.
    If I ever cone on here and say I have equal form as pros feel free to bash me.
    For the record I know I am not that good.

     
  11. Power Player

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    He was banned from your forum?

    That's weird, because according to Hunter he is a really nice guy.
     
  12. HunterST

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    Are you serious? Go back and read the statements you have made in this thread. They have been laden with hostility and reek of "taking an internet forum way too seriously." You personally attacked the guy's abilities and even his personal life. You said that a poster who defended sennoc was "defending the indefensible." That's a phrase better suited for someone who is arguing in support of racism. So basically, it's fine to take the forum seriously if you're trying to put someone down, but not if you're against it.

    Finally, just because you guys are ganging up on a guy and making of him over the internet, doesn't mean you're not still ganging up on a guy and making fun of him.
     
  13. Hewex

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    Agree

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  14. theZig

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    I think a lot of it has to do with the idea that they don't respect the person challenging their ego. IE, if Gordon Ramsay came up to you and said he was a better cook than you, you'd have no qualms, but the moment someone you disrespect (at least in your own mind) says something that steps on your toes, people go ballistic. It's sorta like "If I don't even respect YOU, and YOU think you're better than ME, then what does that say of myself?", hence leading to a defensive, perhaps offensive, stance to be taken. They almost have to prove to themselves that the person they are disrespecting is worth no respect, and in doing so make the disrespected person's statement of "I am better than you" meaningless... or maybe I should have stayed in my college psych class, instead of dropping it so long ago.
     
  15. Automatix

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    Ummm he was banned from most forums except the one he helped create.
     
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    It makes sense to me, I was just being sarcastic. This is a laid back forum where people have great discussions. I have never seen anyone just get picked on for no reason.

    If you really want to talk about a cool guy who get ragged forever on here, look up jo11yroger.
     
  17. TennisCoachFLA

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    Ha, man, you need to switch to decaf. The dude called me and others idiots and clueless. I batted some softballs back at him.

    You sound trollish, yawn.
     
  18. sennoc

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    Oh, I forgot to say. Mr. El Diablo has never seen me on the court. He knows about my matches because he reads my tennis blog (why he is doing that if I'm a loser? Hmmm... strange, don't you think?). I have balls to write there about my loses too and I present my personal point of view. He thinks that he knows everything just after reading. Maybe he should ask journalists what they think, as example, about my serves.

    Did I? Really?

    Next post and still no answers. So, let's assume you ARE a coach and you have real tennis knowledge.

    You said that my take back is wrong. Could you explain, why take back is so important? Why we are doing it?

    As a coach you should know at least 3 reasons.
     
  19. 35ft6

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    haha. Good one.

    There have been plenty of other delusional people here. Tennis attracts these kinds of people. It's the only sport where people can lose all the time and still believe in their mind they're better than others. What sets Sennoc apart a bit is that he's so combative about it. I remember a guy on here who said he can hit like Federer on his best days, with all the power and precision of a pro. I actually met the guy. He's a weak 4.0 at best, possibly 3.5. But in his mind, I think he thought losing pretty was better than winning ugly, and in the long run that's what mattered. He would miss 10 balls and hit one clean shot, and I think that one clean shot is all he remembered. It was truly bizarre. But this guy sort of backed down when people pointed out he was being delusional.
     
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  20. Automatix

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    Nope. Not me.

    Hmmm... let me summarize your loss explanations: the balls were crap, the lighting was bad, the surface was bad and the opponent didn't know how to properly hit the ball. I think I covered most of the issues. :)

    Wish you all the best.
     
  21. Hewex

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    It's the mean girls/lord of the flies' syndrome. And if you aren't taking part, you're not one of the cool kids.

    Personally, I'm more interested in posters engaging Sennoc regarding technique than making fun of his english.
     
  22. sennoc

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    Should I find posts from your "amazing" forum before I was banned? They are still in my archive and the language is so primitive that Google should translate it without problems. It would be interesting for people here to know the level of discussion on Polish forum you helped to create. It was an amazing reading, as far as I remember. The atmosphere was so great that many players left your forum and created another one. And none of them writes on your forum these days.

    Just ask, I find these posts. People here could compare, are they as creative as you and your friends or not.

    And, btw, why did you change the style of discussion on your forum? Why did you copied many ideas from our forum? Come on, man, if you want to show people how amazing you are, I can help you.
     
  23. sennoc

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    So, you are not a journalist. You do not play at their tournaments. You do not read my blog, where I post about my matches.

    But you post here about the reasons of my loses.

    Poland at its best.
     
  24. Automatix

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    I don't know what you're talking about.

    We change and update our forum with new threads and options such as larger emoticon base and so on.
     
  25. Automatix

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    I don't follow your blog.

    I have friends who send me info from time to time for example if one of our forum members reaches a final, semifinal or even wins a tourney I am informed about it.

    As for your loses at first rounds I did receive e-mails because of your explanations - balls, surface, lighting etc.
     
  26. mtommer

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    Hey now, nothing wrong with that. Granted, I'm not pretending to be a good player but when one would never have a chance at being pro, those great "TV moment" shots are "to die for darling".
     
  27. sennoc

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    Come on, you don't know? What about vulgar words? Why did they disappear? Why don't you humiliate new members? It was so "funny", a tradition, a mark of your forum... Why don't you instruct new members in rude manners as before? What's wrong with you? Short memory? You know, I'm a journalist. I save a lot of things on my disks. I can help your memory to work longer.

    It would be also interesting to translate some of your current threads. You are so humble there, uh, oh...
     
  28. Automatix

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    I don't know what changes at our forum have to do with you claiming to be a 5.0 NTRP with a forehand better than Federer and a volley better than Nadal...

    Oh sorry I get it. You're trying to derail the thread. Got it!

    Oh well continue your trolling ways as you always do. I'm going to bed. Cheers!
     
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  29. sennoc

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    Yes, I claim that I'm 5.0 and that my volleys are technically better than Nadals. Nothing has changed here.

    You are the only person here who can check me on the court. I'm sure people here are very interested. Guys, am I right? Do you want to see our match? Normal court, normal balls, normal lighting. I promise I'll post video with all points.
     
  30. sennoc

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    Funny, I thought you did the same a few posts ago. But I think it's important for people here to know, what kind of person you are, in reality. Point of view depends on knowledge, you know...
     
  31. arche3

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    If Sennoc thinks I am cyber bullying him I will stop. All he has to do is ask. Keep in mind he was the one who called me an idiot and worthless or something like that. And all I did was point out faults in his forehand.

    Can adults even cyber bully? Sennoc can just stop coming here. Problem solved.

    Jollyroger gets a lot of flak. And he can actually play tennis. Dozu got a lot of flak for the human racket thing but he still is contributing worthwhile threads. All Sennoc does is antagonist people who do not bow to his greatness. The guy is arrogant and delusional. Not once does he answer any specific technical questions regarding himself.
     
  32. Andres

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    Quoted for posterity
     
  33. sennoc

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    You kindly ask, I kindly answer.

    You are an idiot, because you do not think before you write and when you write. You wrote many words about me just to show people that I'm an internet troll. But you didn't check my posts. It was easier for you to insult me that to check reality. You did this more than once.

    That's why you are an idiot.

    But do not worry. Most of us are/were idiots, me to. But I believe in evolution. And you? Do you believe in evolution?
     
  34. Ajtat411

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    This thread needs more videos and less arguing. This reminds me of Sammy and Ronnie from Jersey Shore.
     
  35. arche3

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    Thanks. I have the utmost gratitude for you pointing out that I am an idiot yet again.
    Now why are you so angry?
    I do believe on evolution. But what does that have to do with tennis ?
    Oh... And my actual question that you did not answer was why did you think you lose all the time in tennis with superior strokes? You actually only told me why you thought I was an idiot. Back to your tennis. Why do you lose so much? The balls I read before. And the sun. And heat. What about all that affected your superior strokes?

     
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    Senny's trying to say he was once an idiot, but now he's evolved into a troll.
     
  37. sennoc

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    arche3, I try to show you that the world is a bit more complicated than you think. Nothing personal. In fact, I do not think that you are an idiot. That was quite obvious. Ask yourself, could I work as a science journalist with no respect for people who do not know things I know?

    You chose the style of discussion. I accepted it, that's all.

    In a few years our posts will generate smiles on our faces, I'm sure. Just be a bit nicer and believe in my words. If I write that I loose because the balls are horrible, the balls ARE horrible and we can discuss that fact. I think the discussion could be quite interested, physics of reasons is very interesting and quite useful.

    Also, I said that I will publish more videos in the future and I'll do that, just give me a few months. I have very interesting plans for 2012 and I hope I will be able to show you some really amazing things next year.

    It's your choice, do you believe in my words or not.

    Not so bad. I can evolve. You can't.
     
  38. OHAI

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    You guys bicker more than high school girls.
     
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    Thanks Sennoc. I really thought you thought I was an idiot. And it really hurt my feelings. I'm sorry I am so sensitive but after the accident I am a bit on edge. Is there a website I can join to learn about your knowledge? Thanks. All the best to you.

     
  40. TennisCoachFLA

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    Yeah, I think I will listen to Hunter on this one and bow out.

    The original debate had value to me. sennoc believes that his volleys are better than Nadal's, I think its a product of the level of competition. If seenoc hit vs a great player, his form would suffer a lot in my opinion.

    Thats the video/debate worth having. sennoc hitting against the best player he can find and testing his theory. Perhaps he is 100% right, maybe I am.

    As Hunter said, we allowed this once worthwhile discussion to get personal and childish.
     
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    I pictured LeeD being about 6'4 with massive shoulders in my mind...

    He has a pretty loose looking arm when he serves, wish my arm was like that.
     
  43. onehandbh

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    I know! Totally unfair b/c your opponent probably went to another court and
    warmed up for a good 45 minutes before he got there for your match.

    In a best of five the best player usually wins.

    This is tough. It doesn't give you a chance to get acclimated to the courts.

    Definitely not. Save your body and energy for when you play against a top
    ATP player.

    That's tough. They should have taken your older age into account and
    spaced out your matches over more days.

    It's pretty cold in Poland during that time, too! Ask for a court that
    doesn't face the sun when you serve or ask to have your match moved
    to an indoor court. Looking into the sun when you have high contrast
    issues makes it even tougher. In ideal conditions for your eyes, you probably
    would have won.

    37 C?! That's hot. Next time tell the tournament director, that these kind
    of conditions are not going to ensure that the best player wins. Next time ask
    to be rescheduled to an early morning match like 6am as it is usually easier
    for older folks to wake up early and harder for young people.

    Definitely do not change your equipment and technique to adjust to crappy
    balls. Your pro-level technique took a lot of effort to develop.
     
  44. dennis10is

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    Sennoc take your medication

    I think if Sennoc is not pulling our collective legs, some teenage kid making up this person.

    If Sennoc is indeed a Polish male working as a science journalist, then I suggest that he see a doctor/counselor because he is behaving like Charlie Sheen, having a psychotic break or having a manic episode.

    So, take your meds if you have the prescription. If you don't, I suggest you seek professional help for your disorder.
     
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    ^^ but then Automatix would also have to be a made-up person...

    so trolling is highly unlikely AFAIC.
     
  46. sennoc

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    OK, I do not see your irony.

    My main partner is 5.5-6.0. We play very agressive balls at full speed. We use the best balls and play on a good court, at good conditions. Strong topspins and slices, deep balls, angles etc.

    Now imagine that I want to play a recreational tournament. I use quite advanced kinetic chains, many muscles involved. I'm not the youngest one, so I need a long warmup to play with good dynamics. There are no warmups at tournaments here. So, you know one reason - I do not want to risk injuries, my dynamics is wrong.

    Second reason - the court. Clay courts here in Poland are very different. I play on a very fast surface, hard clay. I can adapt to a new surface, but I need time, an hour or so. At our friendly tournaments journalists hear: "5 mins on the court and please start the match, we do not have time". Every tournament is played at another centre, on a different surface. So, you know second reason of problems.

    Bad lighting is another reason. I'm a journalist, work a lot of time at computers, my eyes hate high contrasts. Polish tennis reality: a few strong lamps just above your head and a quite dark interior. I serve and when I see the ball again, it's close to me. Huge problem.

    Fourth reason: technique. If you use an advanced technique, you need perfect timing. You need to know the kick of the ball and you need to see the ball perfectly. So, my technique works against me. Sad but true. If you work on really good technique, better ask yourself about your tennis goals.

    Fifth reason: poor combination of balls/racquet/strings. I use the heaviest racquet on the market, k6.1 Tour and Luxilon BBAPR at 24 kG. Prince Tour are dedicated for club players. If a stroke is hit at huge dynamics, the ball doesn't transfer rotation, everything goes into velocity. During the last tournament I saw a former top10 Polish player, he had the same problems. He was able to correct them by huge speed of racquet's head. Unfortunately for me, it's not possible with my racquet without killing my wrist. He was able to make corrections because he is younger and his racquet was lighter and balanced differently. I need a new setup just for these tournaments. I can't decide, do I really want to buy a different racquet to play better at a recreational tournament...

    Add very serious wrist problems and you know the answers. I can adapt to new conditions, but I need time. Also, I can adapt to one or two changes, not to five, not in five minutes.

    Now you know why I play these tournaments for fun.

    Yes, you can say that the conditions are the same for me and my rival. But that's not true. My rivals are ~20 years younger, their eyes too. Their muscles do not need long warmup. They do not need to adapt to new balls because they use them before. Also, their technique is not so extremal as mine. They use power to modify the depth of the ball. I, usually, use rotations. To be competitive at these conditions, I should change my whole style of playing. I do not want to do that.

    As you can see, at amateur tournaments good technique can work against you. But ask yourself, what do you prefer: to win against a player like dozu or to loose against Roger Federer? I work to be able to loose against very good players. Playing against them gives me motivation and satisfaction. A win over dozu? Come on...

    I write on Polish tennis forum http://forum.slajs.pl - in Polish, of course. Most of my posts are about tennis science. That's all I can say now, sorry.

    onehandbh, dennis10is - what do you know about real tennis...
     
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    You assume that because both of you live in Poland that you can easily set up a tennis match?

    Take your meds.
     
  48. OHAI

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    Give it up man, you're too old for this.
     
  49. sennoc

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    I'm trying to teach them something. But they learn so slowly...
     
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    I am reading it with the Chrome browser, it automatically translate.... no problem at all.
     

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