Potential machines for racquetball racquet.

Discussion in 'Stringing Techniques / Stringing Machines' started by MPatrick, Jun 20, 2012.

  1. MPatrick

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    Greetings,

    First time post.

    Am getting to the point where I should look at stringing my own racquetball racquet. Current racquet is an E-Force Lethal, typically with E-Force Oxygen 17g multifilament at 30lbs. Restringing at about once per month.

    Which brings me to my questions: What features are absolutely necessary, and what are more or less conveniences for stringing this type of one piece / throatless / through handle mains (22”) / fan pattern racquet? Is there anything new or used in the $200 to $400 range that would fulfill my needs?

    From lurking and searching this forum for awhile, it looks like something along the Alpha Pioneer DC Plus would be a good start; six point, drop weight, fixed clamps. But it’s a little out of my (naively hopefully low) budget when new. I think I can avoid the ‘Klippermate vs X2’ debate, right?

    Thanks for any/all input,
    Mickey
     
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  2. Wikky

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    Not to much input besides definitely get fixed clamps.

    I think I can speak for every stringer here when saying we're very happy that you're getting your own stringer so we don't have to do it anymore.
     
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  3. MPatrick

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    I do agree that it's pretty ridiculous. It would be nice if the guy at the pro shop just gave me $15 or $20 not to string my racquet!
     
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  4. Ramon

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    I have an Alpha Pioneer DC Plus. I did run into some problems with certain racquetball racquets. An Ektelon with a fan string pattern went without a hitch. A Pro Kennex was about a centimeter too long. I was able to get away with it by inserting a padded nut between the bracket and the frame, but I definitely would have preferred a longer table in the first place. An E-Force was also too long, but fortunately, I didn't have to string it because I found a crack in the frame.

    So to answer your question about features that are necessary, I'd say you need the mounting brackets to be far enough apart to support all racquetball racquets. When I set my brackets to the farthest position, the ends are 15" apart (they would support a frame with an inner diameter of 15"). I'd say you want at least 16" or more at the maximum setting.
     
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  5. Ken Sachar

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    I recommend a six point mount for racquetball racquets. Two point with load spreader at throat interferes with all the threading thru the handle.

    A while back someone wanted to return a Gamma 6004 with 2 point self centering mounting brackets. I cannot find the thread, but is worth reading if you can find it.
     
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  6. MPatrick

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    Thanks Ramon,

    Interesting point. My racquet is 15 9/16" inside. That max center post spec doesn't seem to be commonly published, if at all.
     
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  7. mchjhn

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    you need a 6 pt machine with racquetball frames. some e-force racquets and other companies have a bunch of the mains going through the throat. basically you need a 6 pt for a fan shaped frame.
     
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  8. MPatrick

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    Thanks Ken,

    I'll see if I can find it.

    Seems like most tables with fixed clamps have six point mounting as well, except some Gammas as you mention.
     
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  9. MPatrick

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    Thanks mchjhn,

    (Six) point taken.
     
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  10. drakulie

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    I string quite a few racquetball frames at the shop with a prince 5000 (two point). No problems stringing these frames, although I would prefer 6 point for some of the reasons cited.
     
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    does the 2 pnt work for e-force, and the patterns with the strings running through the throat?
     
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    *^^^^ yes.

    The majority of frames we string are e-force. That said, I still prefer the 6-point.

    Good luck.
     
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  13. xiaobo

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    I might be the one you talked about.

    Xiaobo.
     
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  14. xiaobo

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    I am a recreational racquetball player. I made a mistake for not asking the same question as you did and bought Gamma 6900 ELS string machine with 2 Point SC Mount last December to string racquetball and tennis racquets. Below are links to my threads that should help you to understand why 2 point mount system is no good to string racquetball racquets:

    http://tt.tennis-warehouse.com/showthread.php?t=406027
    http://tt.tennis-warehouse.com/showthread.php?t=408677

    There were some very helpful hints/tips from other posters in these 2 threads. That's the beauty of this forum.

    I have strung over 30 racquets with this machine, about half-half for tennis and racquetball racquets. Actually it is easier to string tennis racquets with 2 point mount system, but much more difficult to string main strings of racquetball racquets. A few pre-wire main strings helps a lot for racquetball racquets.

    Let me know if you have any other question that I may help.

    Xiaobo.
     
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    Ha, that would be nice. I didn't mean to be condescending at all I just know that I can speak for every shop stringer here that we're definitely not happy when we see a racquetball racquet walk through the door. Its not that I have a problem doing them its just that I'm very unfamiliar with the patterns and it usually takes an extra 10-15 minutes.

    I hope that you make a good purchase and best of luck to you!
     
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  16. fortun8son

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    I string well over100 racquetball frames a year and they are all evil.
    I think the designers go out of their way to make it difficult for stringers.
    I've mostly used a Neos1000 and it does ok with the use of the angled Prince flying clamps and some creative mounting.
    For example, Ektelon Power Ring frames need to be mounted backwards and most frames need the angled throat clamp to be reversed to allow access to the throat grommets or handle (in the case of Wilson or E-Force.
    Additionally, many E-Force frames need to have the throat piece partially rotated to access the tie off at 3T.
    My Eagnas 810 Combo(6pt mount) will not do many Rball frames. They are either too long, or too narrow at the throat for the lower outside supports or the mounting pin at 6 O'clock interferes with the grommets at 1T.
    There is also the added difficulty of squeezing the clamp in to clamp the top cross.
    The Prince 5000 and the Neos 1200 do better with their improved mounting and clamping systems.
    Of course, none of these are cheap.

    BTW, the Prince is actually a 4pt mount, not 2, though I suppose that's debatable.:)
     
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  17. MPatrick

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    Thanks Xiaobo,

    Yes, I read your posts earlier and found them interesting. Although the machine you have is out of my price range, the 6pt vs 2pt debate was helpfull.
     
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  18. MPatrick

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    Hey Wikki,

    I didn't think you were being condescending, just honest.
     
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  19. MPatrick

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    fortun8son, is the Eagnas 810 an Alpha DC equivalent?

    Does anybody have the max center post distance of the Gamma X-6 FC?

    Thanks,
    Mickey
     
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