practice strokes underwater?

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  1. dave333

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  2. randomname

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    I dont know if it would help or not but you sure would look funny doing it
     
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  3. zhan

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    it can be considered as resistance training?
    but if u can swing fast in water...
    then u can swing MUCH faster without resistance
     
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  4. str33t

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    just don't drown ;-)
     
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    Hmmm...no. Definitely not FH or BH strokes, maybe breaststroke, backstroke...
     
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  6. Supernatural_Serve

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    I work on footwork, shuffle steps, cross over steps, unit turns in water every time I am in it (not often). I look a little silly, but I consider it fun and its easy on my knees making them move as fast as possible without any strain on my knees and not having to deal with falling down.
     
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    LOL
     
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    just stretch in the pool lol
     
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  9. Tezuka Kunimitsu

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    prince of tennis method???

    ~Joe
     
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    aahahahahhhaahahaahah
    pwned
     
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    Maybe if you go in your pool with scuba equipment (I did this once) you can try, but then you'll be sort of buoyant. That brings a thought to mind... tennis on the moon... it would be clay (moon gravel or whatever you call it) and you'd be able to jump really high. Any thoughts?
     
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  12. dave333

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    what is prince of tennis?
     
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  13. retroceso

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    prince of tennis is what inspires some people to actually play tennis
     
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  14. skuludo

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    Prince Of Tennis is a Japanese cartoon show. For an exagerated clip check the Rate this forehand thread in the tips section.

    You will see dinasaurs come back to life and brought to extinction again. This time with a tennis ball.

    (Glorified power)
    (For exagerated power check the hadokyuu forehand performed by mr Kawamura)
     
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  15. dave333

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    ok.....that seems quite...interesting lol
     
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    Tried this once...hurt my arm
     
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    actually, there was a tip in tennis magazine years back that showed a guy doing this...he was using a ti radical in the picture that i remember vividly...i'll find the article if i get the time
     
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    It may help your strength, ability to work through a heavy ball, but it's (in my humble opinion) not going to help racquet head speed. To train speed you must employ speed, you'd be (imho) working slower-twitch fibres under load in the pool.

    That said, strength can lead to speed... but it's a conversion thing, and takes much time.

    Do post and let us know what it feels like ;)
     
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    You can do this WITHOUT a racquet... *rolls eyes*
     
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  20. ramseszerg

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    Since nobody mentioned it, the method used in prince of tennis is with a towel, not a racquet. This may screw up your technique less since it wouldn't have the effect of altering your racquet face at all. Oh and it will provide more resistence too, even after the towel leaves the water.
     
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  21. dave333

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    i biked over to wal-mart and bought 4 more to test out. 1 for each day, half an hour a day for a week.
     
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  22. Swissv2

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    ermmm...wouldn't you have a bit of trouble trying to stay down in the water because you naturally float? Unless you anchor yourself to the bottom of the pool or something.
     
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  23. Midlife crisis

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    Actually, fast twitch fibers are actuated any time force requirements increase, even if the contraction speed is slow. For instance, doing something like a leg press on a weight machine, which is a very slow contraction, can utilize nearly all of your existing fast twitch fibers if the neural drive is great enough.

    But the important thing is exactly what you said: To train speed, you must employ speed. Specificity is the key. For most people, and I would imagine this applies to practically all people who play tennis with proper equipment, being able to swing hard enough is not the problem. The problem is in the ability to swing hard and accurately, with the timing necessary to get the racquet to the contact point at the correct moment. Neither of these will be trained by resistance work in the pool.
     
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  24. DRtenniS1112

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    Why would u buy 4, yes the rackets will be ruined but if you are only using them for underwater strokes then who cares....This whole idea seems bad to me. IMO
     
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  25. Dunlopkid

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    If he got the pool depth right, he could just have most of body underwater. You wouldn't need all of it, I wouldn't think.
     
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    Try play tennis with the racket cover ON with lead tape stick to your hitting arm, now that's hardcore!!
     
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    Just use an old style racquet cover which you can pick up at yard sales. You can use some weight added to racquet face like several 3/8" nuts and bolts around the sweet spot area. Kinda like the lead bat in baseball.
     
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