Prediction About Federer

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  1. batz

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    FFS - maybe F1Bob was right on the match thread - some Fedfans do have their periods at the moment - you're now the 3rd one.

    For the third time - it wasn't meant to imply anything other than getting Ferrer in your draw is better than getting Murray, because you'd rather play someone you are 13-0 against than someone you are 8-10 against.

    It wasn't meant as a barb, a dig, or anything detrimental - just a salient point.
     
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  2. Prisoner of Birth

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    That's a match-up issue. On current form, a random player would rather play Tsonga and Berdych than Ferrer or Del Potro. But not Federer, because he has his worries against Tsonga and Berdych. The draw itself isn't too bad. It's just that Federer got what he would've wanted. Either way, it's like the first time in years that Federer got such an easy (personally) draw in a big-tournament so I don't see the big deal.
     
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  3. Russeljones

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    What do you base this on?
     
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  4. batz

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    Neither do I mate - if you read my earlier post I said as much. I have no beef with Roger's draw - it's his draw - it could just as easily been Noel's draw. My beef is with people who are suggesting that Roger didn't get an easy draw because Ferru and Delpo are in form.
     
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  5. The Bawss

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    Let's face it. You do.

    Now that I'm here I might as well rustle your jimmies a bit so here's a truth pill:

    Fed's draw has the in-form indoor players, the whole of group A is full of mugs who have been losing left and right to nobodies. There, I said it.
     
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  6. ductrung3993

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    ...which is true.

    And dont forget that Fed's group wont get to rest for the SF.

    Just calm down. ;)
     
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  7. tennisaddict

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    Ferrer and Delpo have accomplished more in the recent past. Also the main issue is Fed has to defeat probably both Murray and Nole back to back, if he is to win. If he had been with Murray, he would have had a passage to finals. Given his record, you have to expect Fed to reach semis in any group.
     
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  8. batz

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    Er, no, I really don't. There are many people in the world whose views I value and therefore care about - you are not among them.

    You're entitled to your opinion on the draw.
     
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  9. CDNguy87

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    But if the choice is between playing Ferrer early on in the RR and then playing Murray in the Semis OR playing Murray early on in the RR and Ferrer in the Semis, Fed would almost certainly pick the latter. You're confusing this with a normal single-elimination tournament.

    If his goal was to win his RR group, then Federer clearly got an easy draw. But his goal is clearly the win the whole thing, which requires winning the Semi and Final. A hiccup in the RR is not a problem, but a loss in the Semi or Final obviously is. From that perspective, Fed's draw as it stands will make it much harder for him to win the actual tournament than Novak's.
     
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  10. tennisaddict

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    It is not that they dont understand, they just ignore that.
     
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  11. The Bawss

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    Don't fight it. In real life you and I would be best friends.
     
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  12. Steve0904

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    One could also argue that Fed may not have made it out of the RR if he had drawn Murray.

    However, let me be clear on this, I'm a Federer fan, and before anybody jumps on my back, I don't think he got the toughest draw, but I don't think it's easy either. It just depends on which way you want to look at it, which is basically what you're saying.
     
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  13. batz

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    Are you coming on to me dude?
     
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  14. sbengte

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    Toughest ever RR group for WTF in the history of mankind was what Ralph got in 2010.

    - Old man Roddick , returning from his bout with mono and clearly in a slump.
    - Djoker 1.0 who turned up blind to play Ralph dropping his contact lenses on court.
    - Berdych , who is Ralph's favorite pigeon and was coming with high levels of confidence from several first round exits in tournaments post Wimbledon.

    (sorry about repeating the content of my post but since you are obsessively repeating Fed's draw in every post...)
     
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  15. kalyan4fedever

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    It does not matter what the draw is , the real ******** will always choke, p.s djoker n murraa also got the easiest draws this year (djoker got it in US open *slam). so chill off
     
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  16. smoledman

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    Of course he always chokes. He's choked his way to 17 slams.
     
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  17. Feather

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    Sorry, I have faith in him. I feel that he is gonna win his 7th WTF. The only two days that matter are sunday and monday, semi finals and finals..

    Roger will leave London in Glory. I am sure about that
     
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  18. kalic

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    Prediction about Fed on this forum ? LOL
     
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    Yep. We are in uncharted ground, we must tread carefully.
     
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  20. World Beater

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    gone are the days when federer could magically elevate his level.

    He needs to be high on confidence in order beat djokovic and murray.

    Djokovic looks to be favorite with murray behind.
     
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  21. kalyan4fedever

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    Reason = OFF DAY hahaha
     
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  22. TJfederer16

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    Wimbledon 2012? was playing pretty average until he met Djokovic and Murray then raised his game several bars to beat them.
     
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  23. Warmaster

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    He raised it in the QF and maintained that level in the SF and Final.
     
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  24. Prisoner of Birth

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    Yeah, he really hit some form in the QF.
     
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  25. underground

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    How can one not raise their form when he gets his ultimate lapdog, i.e. Youzhny? :twisted:
     
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  26. SQA333

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    Watch the following matches:

    - Federer-Davydenko WTF 2009

    - Federer-Soderling RG 2010

    - Federer-Del Potro USO 2009, Basel '12, WTF '12

    - Federer-Ferrer WTF '11 (Federer was pretty poor in the 1st set) and '12, Cincy '09

    - Federer-Roddick Miami '08 and '12

    - Nadal-Verdasco Madrid '12

    - Djokovic-Tipsarevic WTF '11

    The list goes on.
     
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  27. underground

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    There's only ONE ultimate lapdog, and it's Youzhny.
     
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  28. The Bawss

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    Ferrer says hi.
     
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  29. World Beater

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    I dont doubt that federer could do it on a one-off..

    wimbledon was his first major in like almost 2 years? So there were lots of matches where he couldnt bring his A game.

    Today was another great data point showing fed still has it...though i do think murray had something to do with it.

    Just like fed played like crap at the olympics.
     
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