Prediction Nadal will announce his retirement before Acapulco.

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  1. mistik

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    I think the main reasons Nadal and his team couldnt manage to be more open and fair from the very start is,they knew it from the very beginning that it is pretty much game over for him.They just try to win sometime,to keep sponsors and fans and the media in touch.They lost credibility in this process,but never mind they maximize Rafas profit before it is all over.
    Now not even the childish Nadal fans deep down believe this last minute virus story.He isnt practicing,and there some people who saw him Mallorca says he look very slim and not looking like a guy who works hard in the gym anymore.
    I think he will declare his retirement before Acapulco tournament,because not even die hard fans believe him anymore,and his last minute withdrawals from tournaments cant keep going forever.
     
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    I agree.

    I mean, yes, Nadal finally reties!
     
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  3. tudwell

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    He won a slam just a few weeks before his break started. I don't know why he'd call it quits so suddenly.
     
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  4. forzamilan90

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    More of this? Come on he's not going to retire before even attempting to play.
     
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    he will never quit even if it would take 2years to get back! he is not a quitter!
     
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    And this where the reading of his book finds its use: in order to fix his foot problem, the doctors found a solution that had to eventually seriously damage his knees.
    Always has been a matter of time, even Rafa knew it, he's been playing with fire for too long.
    Now it's almost happening...
    Sad for his fans but it's life.
     
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    When you dont have enough quality cartilage in your knee you cant even walk properly. So yes, it might be really serious
     
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  8. Tmano

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    i don't think the issue he has is with the cartilage......anyhow uncle Tony is a resorceful men:)
     
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  9. TennisLovaLova

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    Let's hope for nadal you're right
    Otherwire he's done
     
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    I think if he was going to retire...he would do it at Monte Carlo...or possibly the French Open.

    Like Roddick retiring at the USO (his biggest win)

    Just like I imagine Roger will retire at Wimbledon when he does
     
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    Yeah, this Nadal situation looks very fishy.
     
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  13. Tmano

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    tennis needs him..........i though i would never think that but tennis without him got a bit boring.....and i don't actually see any tennis player even the young ones being able to replace him......if he retires i believe that with him we saw the strongest clay court player ever
     
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    Borg lost a very close final in a slam and walked off the court to never play again while in perfect health - it happens.
     
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    Yes, he is either greatest clay ever or right there with Borg. Yes, tennis is in a bit of a lull - Federer is aging, Djoko and Murray are not as strong. But, someone will step in. There are millions of $ to be made and tennis athletes are improving. No one expected anyone to be better than Sampras for decades and then Federer steps in and breaks almost all of Pete's records. With the $ in the game, someone will step into the lull soon.
     
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    He isnt going to play even on clay if the things goes terribly wrong on practice.I am 100 percent sure he tried couple of times during this 6 months and FAİLED.
     
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  17. Mike Sams

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    Nadal won the battle but Federer won the war? :neutral:

    Just remember how much physical damage Nadal did to himself to get that #1 ranking and how much further physical damage Nadal did to himself to keep that #1.

    I don't know if it's game over for him but I sure as heck have read absolutely nothing about him trying to get in shape and work his way to top physical form in the gym and practice courts. And he's nearly 27 which is past peak for a tennis player.

    How is he going to suddenly come back and contend with younger guys who are training and playing hours and hours daily and improving their fitness and game. Younger guys like Djokovic, Murray and Del Potro?
     
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    Nadal won't be retiring any time soon, he still has a couple of "good" years left in him, and by "good" I don't mean winning a slam. I mean staying top ten. After 2014 or 2015, I'd say he's done for good.
     
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    He's going to play Monte Carlo and the French one last time
     
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    Nadal will never turn back only to be a guy who is in top 10 and has no chance of winning a major.He will only turn back if he feels he has some chance to win a major and big titles again.He is no David Ferrer, he has different expectations and standards just like all the great players.
     
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    Nadal said he would happy as long as he's top 8.
     
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    Nadal said many times wining big titles is more important than the ranking.He want to win big titles.I dont see him winning slams if his ranking number 8 or something.
     
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    I agree. I do not like Nadal very much, but he does add that element of difference. He hits the ball unlike anyone else and has more tenacity than just about anyone else. MTOs and gamesmanship aside, it is stunning to see him play.
     
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    here is the element he has over anyone else...... charisma
    the only one player had such and even immensibly bigger charisma was Agassi and his legacy will be forever.
     
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    I think Jimmy Connors and John McEnroe had more charisma than Nadal does.
     
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    different kind of charisma for sure....never said he is the most charismatic.....to me

    Agassi is the one
     
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    You've read absolutely nothing? You're not looking in the right places then because he has given dozens and dozens of interviews to newspapers and magazines and Spanish and Mallorcan tv. For several months on his twitter and facebook there were pictures of him in his gym or swimming or something and fans and various journalists tweet immediately when he's spotted practicing.
     
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    Cursing umpires and smashing racquets isn't classified as being charismatic.
     
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    Holmes: Your first comment in bold, I disagree with. Your second, I agree with.
     
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  30. Towser83

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    wasn't he seen practicing on clay a few days after he pulled out of the AO?
     
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    Yeah and he hasn't been seen practicing since.
     
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    And why is that. If you're speaking from the 'the sport is bigger than the player' perspective then yes, tennis will not die if nadal doesnt play. However, if you think taking away the 2nd most popular tennis player in the world in this era, wont temporarily affect interest in the sport, then I'd like to hear an explanation why.
     
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    I think he can stay in the top 4 relatively easily, the rest of the field aren't anywhere near the standard required to challenge consistently I don't think.

    I think it will just be a question of the pain factor, if it's too much then he really shouldn't continue. He achieved alot at a very young age, retiring a few years earlier than the average player means he still will of had a long career. It's hard to have too many regrets if that's the case, hopefully he makes a full recovery though.
     
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    Very true. If either Fed or Nadal just up and retired it would be a blow to the sport no doubt about it. Would it recover with time? Sure, but it would suffer greatly in the interim without either one of them.
     
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    Sorry but please research Jimmy Connors 1991 US open run. That was charisma displayed at its finest!!
     
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    Maybe marginally, but it really seems like fanboyism is clouding people's thinking here. When these top players eventually bow out it leaves a void that is quickly filled by other players. If Nadal doesn't play the FO then maybe Djokovic completes the career slam and this causes a further surge of popularity in Eastern Europe. When Federer retires maybe Murray wins Wimbledon which would cause a sensation in the UK.

    People seem to forget that tennis was growing before Fed and Nadal and it will continue when they leave.
     
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    Yes, in the long run, all voids are filled but in the short run there are voids. I used to be a Sampras fan and during that era, I would watch AO/FO/Wimby and not even care about FO because every year it was a different dirtballer winning it. It took a charismatic player like Guga to make me really start enjoying the RG.

    Take away Nadal and already people are saying that whichever half doesnt have Murray is the lock for the final. How can that make tennis more interesting?

    I dont know if there is a way to measure the impact of having dominant champions but I would be willing to bet the 2001-2003 period in tennis have had lower viewership than the periods before and after.
     
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    I think Toni Nadal should just have a group of scientist cryo vac his nephew in a hyperbolic chamber and have him play when federer, djokovic, murray retire. Then he doesn't need to worry about any challenges from these guys and his knees wouldn't have depreciated.

    I think it's kinda boring without nadal, but at the same time I want roger to win as many gs titles as he can before he retires. After he retires, I don't care what nadal does as long as he isn't impeding roger's progress.
     
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    I certainly hope he doesn't
     
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    If you look at their stats (Borg and Nadal), they are very close. This is why I believe that Nadal will walk away very much in the same way that Borg did. There's just too many similarities between them.... from stats, to not truly liking the limelight too much, etc.
     
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    I'm sorry to inform you, but that is a complete myth. Far from walking away from tennis after the 1981 US Open, Borg won a clay-court tournament in Geneva straight after that. Borg didn't return to the tour in 1982 because of disagreements with the ITF over how many tournaments he would have to play. The ITF threatened to make Borg qualify for the majors if he didn't play a required number of tournaments. It was thought that Borg would return to the tour for 1983, but Borg announced during the January 1983 Masters tournament that he wouldn't be returning to the tour full-time. That was when everyone was gobsmacked that Borg was actually gone from full-time tennis, not in September 1981, but in January 1983.
     
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  42. edmondsm

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    Didn't Borg walk away like that because he'd been receiving death threats before the match? What are all the similarities between them because I don't really see that many. They both dominated at the FO. What else?
     
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    I think that if he feels he can still make SFs and finals at the slams (especially at RG), he'll definitely return. I'm sure he doesn't want to risk sacrificing his mobility for this, though.

    That said, I'd be pretty disheartened if he were to retire. Tennis is too interesting with him in the mix and we need each member of the top four to keep the others in check.
     
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    Same here!
     
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    Both pretty burned out by their mid-20s. Both have done the French Open-Wimbledon double in the same calendar year. The clay dominance, but also achieving great things on all surfaces.

    I personally think that Nadal is most like Muster and Vilas when it comes to playing style, but his career does have similarities with Borg's.
     
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  46. NEW_BORN

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    Connery had charisma
    Connors not so much
     
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    its obvious there is no virus. whether is ongoing health issue or worse....i guess we shall see
     
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    Interesting premise but I have also heard people argue that the same player winning a lot makes the sport boring, like during Fed's dominant years. Perhaps what is needed is a middle ground where you have 3-4 people capable of winning slams to make it popular. I thought even when Fedal were the only realistic contenders in slams for several years, the 'rivalry' did capture the imagination of the tennis fans. In my opinion, it would really be good for the sport when someone outside this elite bunch can win a slam. Like the time Delpo did at the USO.
     
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