Discussion in 'Strings' started by EastAngels2014, May 19, 2013.
What is everybody using with their Prestige MP? Poly? Hybrid? Synthetic? Thanks !
Great stick to go Gut/Poly with or a low tension soft poly. It's a VERY low powered stick (ala Pure Storm Ltd) and needs some juice, at least for me.
I have been using polylon in it at 51 and it feels pretty nice all around
If you're finding that you don't need any more pop than what polylon offers, then stick with that! For me, (i love polylon) but that string is too stiff for the stiff/low powered frame of the MP.....but if it works for you, then it works.
I find it is great for me, what do use usually for a poly in the Mp?
I've been doing Gosen OG / Dunlop Ice, both 17g @ 50/48. Good set up that lasts a decent amount of practice time, so I like it. It retains the softness of the Syngut, but has plenty more bite with the poly cross.
I hit the Mid mostly...but I LOVE Pro Line II in there....tremendous feel
It's all personal preference, I use Solinco Tour Bite at 45LBS.
I look froward to trying your setup! How often might you restring the cross string only, with this setup?
I used to use MSV hex 18L mains at 53 lbs and OG sheep micro 18 at 55 lbs. This past wekk i tested out a full bed of msv hex 18l @ 40 lbs. I couldn't be happier. I'm mad i didnt try it before. I plays amazing this weekend and our team won our WTT league playoffs.
Goign that low i thought i'd lose a lot of control and i thought a lot of balls would be flying on me but it was quite the opposite. My drop shots, volleys, serves, groundies were all exactly where i wanted to put them. I might test going down to 35 lbs but i'm going to stick at 40 for a while.
Using the msv hex mains with og sheep micro crosses was my set up for the past 3 yrs +. I'm mad that i didn't switch to the low tension full poly sooner =(
I restring them both at the same time. Haven't cut out crosses only. Generally could get 18-20 hours but usually restring before that depending on the feel.
I'm thinking of doing the same thing. Currently using a full bed of Snakebite 125mm @ 52. I've gone low tension on other frames and enjoyed the experience. Might be worth a try to get more spin and comfort from the frame.
Same for me.
I like gut mains at 48 and soft poly crosses at 46
bab/hurricane or hex are nice choices
Pro Line 2(17g) mains @ 50-52lbs & Prince Synthetic Gut (16G) @ 55-57lbs
Anyone know of a nice multi to replace the synthetic gut?
YT IG MP: ToughGut 16L 24kg mains, WeissCannon Scorpion 1.22 22kg crosses
YT MP: Yonex Poly Tour 1.25 20/19
Poly Tour plays surprisingly firm given the low tension and feel is muted and definitely not harsh. Tough Gut/Scorpion is clearly crispier and offers good feel and spin is easy to get.
I like them both although they surely feel different.
What are some of the softer polys out there? Do you guys feel that the strings such as hex and tour bite give you extra spin compared to a round poly?
I use the MPMP and I tried different set ups which all were full bed poly and here are listed:
big hitter silver 17 at 44lbs nice string great control nice power nice spin but maybe a little stiff at the beginning...however in my opinion better than the rough
big hitter silver rough at 44lbs not much better spin than the BHS, softer than the BHS with a bit more power...nice control.
tour bite at 46lbs better control than the BHS, power is pretty much the same as BHS
scorpion 1.22 at 44lbs was a very nice string as well good spin not as much powerful as typhoon but with a great control and confortable to play with
black magic 17 at 46lbs I did not like it no power at all
typhoon 17 at 44lbs and 46lbs the best one so far....very good power, great control, great spin.I might actually buy a reel of this stuff.
next week i will try luxil;on alu power 1.25 for the very first time at 44lbs.
To a certain extent... but you have to keep in mind the texture will usually wear off and become more rounded.
Black code is fairly soft.... If you are going low tension 30-40 i'd recommend a medium poly like msx hex, co focus, or cyclone.
The texture adds spin potential to a certain extent... but you have to keep in mind the texture will evntually wear and become more rounded.
I have always used smooth polys but i have always been interested in using a shaped poly and if it would give me extra spin. So i may have to give a try to one of those that you mentioned.
My brother had acquired a Flexpoint Prestige MP XL last year, and I borrowed it to try it out. I strung it with Pro's Pro Nano Vendetta 1.25mm at 48#, and found this to be an excellent setup. Very crisp with good pop and ball bite. My nephew has laid claim to it now.
Full gut at 63 - 68 lbs.
Tier One Sports T1 Firewire, 53/51
Tier One Sports Tour Status 53/51
Currently using Razor Code 17 @ 50lb which I really enjoy the feel of, however I've been given a set of RPM dual which I will probably try tonight. Feels very stiff so not sure it's going to be a winner.
No longer using the YT version but, when doing so, it really played sweet with VS mains and PHT crosses (one of those pre-packaged sets from Babolat) at 65/62 - particularly once they "settled" in after hitting an hour or two.
How is the tension loss on Dunlop Ice? Does it hold tension pretty well in terms of a poly?
It's alright! Very much like a 1st gen poly. It's about as stiff as my arm can take, hence why I use it in crosses and not the mains. I think it holds fairly well after the intial drop, and it breaks right when it's supposed to, (right in the 6-8 hour mark the last few jobs I've had done)
ok thank you, i am looking for something that holds a little better than polylon but that isnt a huge amount to pay for
I just tried a extra low tension (35lbs) with Cyclone 17 in my MGPMP. I am really, really pleased.
It really makes the MP play like an open-pattern racquet with the control benefits of an 18x20.
I was torn between going with a Prestige Pro or the MP, but I think this setup changed my mind to go with the MP and a low-tension poly.
I got to play with my friends Prestige MP, it was strung with full bead of Tourna Big Hitter Blue Rought at 65#, it was a little too under powered for playing singles for me, but the racket played amazing, made me think about changing my racket.
One of my hitting friends thinks my MP is the sweetest stick he's ever hit with... it does have pro-like specs at 12.85 oz 8 pts headlight and Pacific toughgut mains 16L at 54 with Wesicannon Silverstring at 52 1.20 for the crosses. It does mangle the ball and Ive never hit with something that returns better. Incredible volleys too
65 lbs?? No wonder it felt a little too under-powered! The MP has a tight string pattern and poly at that tension would give you, basically a board.
If you secure one, I'd suggest going down at least 10 lbs in tension.
Oh yeah, i never play with that high of tension.
Usually i am around 57 on my sticks.
But it worked out for him, he actually had a mid with the same setup :shock:
Tornado at 42.
I'm glad you like it! Another big thing I noticed stringing at 40lbs was tension maintenance was a lot better.
I love technifibre x1 biphase 17g at 50 lbs on my stick, NRG2 is not bade at 50lbs either.
I string wilson nxt at 57, full bed.
I use luxilon alu power at 54-55 if i am playing big hitters.
Can't find a good tension yet for solinco tour bite, feels dull with not a lot of control at 50.
Next I will try full gut at 57-60, with the dense string pattern it will likely last.
B5E @53/Genesis TB @ 55
Very soft, controlled, and predictable for a dense string pattern. Butter at the net and great all around.
Anyone tried Wilson champions choice hybrid in Prestige MP, if so comments and specs?
This is very interesting.....describe a bit more how the frame plays set up this way on serves groundies volleys etc. What was previous set up?
I just hit with Signum Pro and sensation yesterday and man it felt great at 51lbs. Good Touch and power. I may try a full bed of Signum next.
Gut/poly is always great. Due to dense pattern you can use 17g ToughGut mains/ WC Mosquito Bite crosses, near 50 lbs (52/49 is a good one).
For those seeking full poly, some good ones are Genesis Typhoon and Polystar Turbo.
I prefer the low end of tensions as the control is huge on this low-powered stick. 49-52 pounds is great.
Previously using msv hex 18l @ 55 mains / gosen sheep micro 18 @ 57.
Recently switched to full bed msv hex 18l @ 40.
1)Tension loss is less. I have an ERT and when I strung it up it gave me dynamic tension of 38 (not directly related to actual lbs tension). After WTT playoffs (4 long matches which we won by the way!) and about 2 more hitting sessions dynamic tension is at 34. Total hours on court are estimated at 15+ hours. Stringing poly's lower will reduce the tension decrease given the poly has less tension to begin with. For example if poly's decrease 15% during the course of play, stringing at 40 lbs would result in 6 lbs decline. Whereas stringing at 55 would result in a 8 lbs decline. I'm using very thin strings but I’d imagine if i was using 17g and strung it at 35 lbs tension maintenance would be amazing.
2) I get less fliers. It could be because I was using a hybrid before but I definitely feel a more consistent string bed. I used a softer multi cross to soften the string bed but in return it the string bed less uniform IMO. Using a low tension poly (not to firm not too soft) allows me to still have a softer string bed but still uniform. While I was playing I noticed more control and less fliers.
Ground strokes had about if not a tad more spin than my normal set up. My balls weren’t sailing long unless I flat out hit the ball wrong (in any case the ball would have gone long regardless of strings et up_. I’ve played with a full bed before and lower tension definitely decreased the jarring/vibration from off center hits. Everything felt plusher and softer but still retained that poly control we all love.
The volleys felt amazing, I could absorb all the power from a heavy shot and place the ball back wherever I wanted to. Touch volleys and drop shots were there too.
Servers were nice as well, I was able to get some free points with the added control when I noticed some players leaning too far to one side. It did take some slight pace off my serve, but not enough to make a difference. It was very similar to my hybrid set up, just tool some pace and added it to control.
Elbow issues… None. I started to get tennis elbow issues playing with a pure storm full poly @ 55 and decided to switch back to the prestige MP. Since then and even using low tension polys I have not noticed any elbow pain.
If you do try a low tension poly make sure you pick something in the middle ground of firmness. You don’t want something too soft or too hard. I think each string has its magic range where low tension shines. If you start getting crazy vibrations at 30lbs you might be too low and i would recommend going up.
I can’t wait to finish my reel of msv hex so I can start playing with the cyclone.
Yes, tried for 4 sessions so far for a total of 8 hrs. Its comfy but very low powered at the same time. Tension is @ 48 lbs.
Due to the dense 18x20 and low-powered, low trajectory, of this stick, the low tension ranges from 30-40 lbs also work really well with full poly.
Those who really want to experiment should try kevlar/poly at 30lbs, it's quite fun and controllable. A very unique feel with easy spin.
For me the previous set up was Cyclone at 52#. Strung at 35#, the stringbed does not feel like it's at "badminton tension". It just makes the racquet feel softer, the sweetspot bigger and the biggest benefit is additional access to spin, whether it's topspin or slice.
With that said, the biggest difference was with groundies. Volleyes felt about the same and serves had a little more zip.
The 18 x 20 stringbed is perfect for low tension IMO.
I was thinking of giving your setup a whirl at 45# or 40# to start.
How long is it lasting at full playability at the low tensions?
Good luck... Lately, using Cyclone 17, I strung a new frame at 48 lbs and it felt like a board after playing with 35 for a while. It was very revealing.
So, I'd suggest 40 rather than 45. Of course, that's string dependent. After reading a few blogs on low tension, most say the medium to stiffer poly strings perform better at really low tension than softer polys.
In terms of playability, the 35 still feels good after 12 hours of play. The weather hasn't been cooperating much lately.
However, I have used low tension in other frames in the past and I believe it extends the life of the string
Stringingirvine, Carolina Racquet and others sweet call on the low tension setup for 18x20 Head frames.....strung Chinese L4 i Radical MP at 40# with MSV co focus hex 18 g.
Forehands that were sailing as much as 6" long are now dropping and access to spin on all backhand shots is greatly enhanced for me. Serve is solid, flat, kick and slice are all there as expected with multi set up at mid range and net performance is excellent. The overall feel is very similar to the feel of the bed strung midrange with multi.
10 hours of hitting so far the string is still playing fantastic and the honeymoon might migrate to a marriage.
Excellent call thank you so much!!
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