prestige pjs or real deal?

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  1. z-money

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    Has any prestige user actually used a newer racket?

    I have pics from tennis magazine with tursunov clearly using a pj of a liquidmetal prestige and if you google pics of safin you can clearly tell his LM was a pj also. but what about the fxp!!! i can really tell if there is a good enough pick to tell cause on some i see a little missing where the like its supposed to on a fxp but it has a collar on it like the pc 600!

    Can anybody clear this up for me?
    what about other pros like philippoussis, schnyder, monfils, etc.?
     
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  2. cghipp

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    I would estimate that the number of high-level professional players actually using a FXP Prestige (in matches, as opposed to photo shoots) is approximately zero.
     
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    LOL, I too guesstimate that number to be zero. ;)
     
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    i think fxp is the worst feeling prestige ive ever used but that doesnt mean they cant make it work. i just wanta be sure. if not lm or fxp then what?
     
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  5. Voltron

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    The good ol' PC 600 I believe.
     
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    this clearly has a collar is it a classic?
     
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  7. cghipp

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    ... Or the i.Prestige, or the LM prestige (less so), or - what was that blue one more commonly found in Europe?
     
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  8. ShcMad

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    Jose Acasuso is in fact using the real Flexpoint Prestige. Other than that...I don't know of any other players using the real FXP.
     
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  9. cghipp

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    How do you know for sure? (Not challenging you, just curious.)
     
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  10. z-money

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    Clearly is painted and has the collar!
     
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    I remember hearing that monfils plays with a real fxp prestige, and gugo kuerten plays with a real prestige (remember seeing pics floating around).
     
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  12. z-money

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    acasuso with a prestige (leather grip) .... r u sure
     
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    another prestige another collar, another pj for safin
     
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    PJ and has a hint of a collar under the tournagrip
     
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    [​IMG] guga used 4 1/4 but u can still see the collar and the pj
     
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  16. ShcMad

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    Somebody from this forum went to a tournament and heard a Head rep. saying that he could not believe Acasuso was using the real Flexpoint Prestige. And, if you look at the close-up pictures of his racquet, you'll see the real Flexpoint holes. If you see Safin or Agassi's racquets closely, you'll notice they're just painted to look like Flexpiont holes.
     
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  17. z-money

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    guga=pj,, safin=pj, tursunov=pj(even though i think he is using a wilson now), monfils=pj when LM but now with fxp i havent found anything against it i will check grojean
     
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  18. ShcMad

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    About 80%-90% of pros use leather grips. Acasuso can easily have his racquet customizer guy change grips. Just because the retail FXP Prestige comes with a synthetic grip doesn't mean Acasuso will have to use it. He can do pretty much whatever he wants with his racquet.
     
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  19. ShcMad

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    If you wanna believe that Acasuso is using a paintjob, go ahead. I was just stating what I knew.
     
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  20. vsbabolat

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    Marat Safin uses the Prestige Classic 600
    Gael Monfils uses the Prestige Classic 600
    Gusatvo Kuerten uses the Pro Tour 630
    Rainer Schuettler uses the Prestige Classic 600
    Mark Philippoussis uses the Prestige Classic 600


    There are many threads on this you guys should do a search.
     
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  21. z-money

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    ok thx vsbabolat
     
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  22. z-money

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    quick queation what is murray really using there. his head gaurd covers the whole frame like a prestige but he has the i.radical pj???
     
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  23. vsbabolat

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    Murray for some reason has so far refused to switch his pant job. According to Thomas Martinez Murray feels his racquet will play differently if it does not have the flat finish of the intelligence paint job. The way the C.A.P grommets fit his racquets so perfectly it can only be the Radical Tour 630, Pro Tour 630, or the i.Prestige midplus. The Radical Tour 630 and the Pro Tour 630 both have the exact same mold the only difference is the layup. The i.Prestige grooves in the throat are slightly different but every thing else is the same: beam width and drill pattern, head shape.
     
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  24. TheSnowMan

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    Jose Acasuso (Mid) and Stasilas Warwinka (MP) both use the Flexpoint Prestige
     
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  25. tkauffm

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    Blue one? What blue Head racquet are you talking about?
     
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  26. z, a collar is not indicative of a paintjob; all it shows is that the frame is a 600. All Prestige 600 pallets (PC, i, LM, FP) are interchangeable between frames. That microscopic black blur in the pic of Guga with a Pro Tour frame is anything but a collar. That frame is a couple of millimeters wider than a 600, so a collar probably doesn't fit.
     
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  27. vsbabolat

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    I think he was talking about the Pro Tour 630.
     
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  28. cghipp

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    That's the one I meant.
     
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  29. keithchircop

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    i have a list of 50 pros somewhere who at one time or another used the PC600 or a PC600 paintjob. a couple of current players might use the liquidmetal version, i dont know. but im pretty sure no pro uses a flexpoint. flexpoint racquets (all of them, not only prestiges) are probably the worst racquets head has ever made. the pros hate them.

    im sorry for those who got duped into buying such racquets thinking their favourite pro uses it. example:

    then they come here on the forums and learn the truth. at first there is the denial stage. then anger. what follows is putting the racquet up on the big auction site, and getting a racquet the pros really use like the K90, POG, or PC600.
     
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  30. Andres

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    No, negro. Usa una Prestige Classic. Se lo pregunté yo mismo ;)
    Su respuesta fue, literalmente "No. Es la que usaba Goran y Safin, pero está pintada"

    ;)

    For the english talkers here, Acasuso uses a Prestige Classic. I asked him myself. His literal reply was (for my question about if he's using the racquet he's advertising) "No. This is the one Goran and Safin used to use, but it's painted"

    I posted this in a couple of threads, but people don't seem to pay more attention, or I just don't have much credibility here :mrgreen:
     
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  32. vsbabolat

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    Also HEAD is still Manufacturing racquets for the Pros on Tour in Austria. HEAD is still manufacturing about 50,000 racquets for the Players on Tour in Austria only. While HEAD outsources ALL production for the consumer to China since 2005. HEAD absolutely refuses to sell any Pro Tour 630 to the Public that they are making thousands of in Austria for the Pros on Tour. Once those PC600 are sold out here at TW that is it. HEAD wont sell anymore of those PC600 to the Public that they are still making thousands of in Austria for the Pros on Tour only.
     
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  33. War Safin!

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    So there we have it: Marat Safin doesn't use a Prestige Classic 600.
    You heard it from Jose Acasuso!
    ;)
     
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    My three i. Prestiges were all made in Austria.
     
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  35. cghipp

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    Supracool94 - I think the i.Prestiges were the last Austrian-made Prestige racquets for the consumer market.
     
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  36. Andres

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    LOL!
    Safin used it (even without the PJ) against Sampras, can't really remember the tourney, but it's on youtube. He also used the yellow overgrip... just like Goran :p
     
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  37. vsbabolat

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    HEAD stopped making racquets in Austria for the Public in 2005. The LM Prestige was the last Prestige made in Austria.
     
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  38. vsbabolat

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    Safin defeated Sampras in the 2000 U.S. Open Final. Safin had no PJ on the Prestige Classic 600 back then.
     
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  39. keithchircop

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    there are lots of racquets i havent tried, but the feel you get from a prestige 600 when hitting the sweetspot on a 2hdbh is hard to top.
     
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    Exactly. Thank you ;)
    No PJ, and a yellow overgrip, just like Goran :D
     
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    Acasuso and Warwinka DO use Flexpoints. They both switched, one from Pc600 and the other from the pro tour. I'm aware other pros don't.

    To set the record straight I didn't buy my racket because someone else used it, I demoed. You may think that flexpoints are the worst just because no pros use them, but you're wrong. I admit, they don't work. Maybe people like the specs, color, ect., but it doesn't matter.

    Btw, I don't like Acasuso's or Warwinka's style of play..
     
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  42. TheSnowMan

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    Andres, sorry to break it to you, but he changed rackets.
     
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  43. ShcMad

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    Perdoname, loco. Te juro que nunca lei ningun post tuyo sobre la racketa de Acasuso...haha. No frecuento la seccion de Pros' Racquets and Gear tanto. Pero, ahora que lei tu post en el link que me diste, te creo.

    Yo crei que Acasuso usaba el Flexpoint porque hace un tiempo, habia visto unas fotos de alta calidad de su racketa, y los agujeros de Flexpoint eran reales.

    Si vos le hablaste y preguntaste a el mismo, te creo. No hay duda. Pero....mira si el tipo con quien hablaste no era Acasuso pero un boludo que se parecia a el? hahaha
     
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  44. Andres

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    Si era un boludo que se parecía a él, entonces era una bestia!! Le pegaba durísimo a la bola!! :mrgreen:
     
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    Acasuso said he plays with a painted Prestige Classic. Sorry if this sounds rude, but I prefer to believe him before believing you.
     
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    Why would anyone, let alone a Pro , use a Flexpoint frame, the whole concept is counterproductive especially if it actually worked. If i came up to you and said "let me drill a hole in your frame at 3 and 9" you'd probably punch me in the nose. Nuff said.
     
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    just post a pic of the last tourney he played in so we'll know for sure.
     
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    I hope this works...

    Edit: This is working right? Btw it's Pacific Life Open (March 10. 2007)
     
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  49. keithchircop

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    snowman, that is a PC600
     
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  50. vsbabolat

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    This shows how far and wide the Paint Jobs go at HEAD.
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    His name is Grigor Dimitrov of Bulgaria he is 16 years old and playing at the 2007 Stella Artois Junior Championships. Grigor is using the Pro Tour 630 with a Paint Job of the Flexpoint Radical mp. With Grigor being 16 years old he has not spent years growing up playing with with the Pro Tour 630.
    The racquets HEAD sells to the Consumer are Garbage. HEAD even gives for free Pro Tour 630 that they are making in Austria to a kid playing ITF juniors. It just goes to show that HEAD does not even think Flexpoint was any good to let a 16 year old use a racquet that has not been sold in almost 10 years.
     
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