**** prices for vintage Agassi stuff

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  1. IA-SteveB

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    Back when playing in high school, I always wore the Agassi Challenge Court stuff, starting with the famous hot lava/black combo. I was just browsing **** recently and was amazed that people were asking over $200 for the jean short/biker short combos he used to wear. Shirts are also above $200.
     
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  2. WildVolley

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    This is not at all surprising when you think about it. First, this stuff is primarily bought by collectors because it has become iconic. A lot of it was destroyed or lost so the supply is small. Then, don't forget that we've had fairly significant inflation.

    All-in-all, if you'd saved your stuff you probably would have made an OK return considering you enjoyed wearing it back then. However, you probably would have made a lot more money by just sticking your dollars it in the stock market, and a lot more than that by just sticking the money in precious metals. The collectors market has not been kind in recent years. I remember when there was a massive bubble in baseball cards. That's basically collapsed. Cards that were trading for hundreds of dollars can now be had for about $10.
     
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  3. Loud

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    The shirts were $100 retail back in the day.
     
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  4. LanEvo

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    Start getting Fed stuff, his prices will go up just like that in time as well.
     
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  5. MAXXply

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    It's hard to summon up the time or enthusiasm to "collect" Fed or Nadal gear from the shops, when apparel lines are updated/released every quarter or so. If the brands maintained some kind of exclusivity or limited their product cycles then maybe it would be worth our while to collect stuff. I just can't be bothered to get the latest Fed/Rafa shirt if I know another whole line is only 3 months away. These days I will only pickup a Fed shirt from thrift shops in the knowledge of an easy flip to adolescent fanbois.

    I too was rocking the Agassi gear back in the day and my biggest apparel regret was to offload it to the thrift shops way back then.
     
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  6. LanEvo

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    If you can afford it, why not? I personally do not have any type of clothing pertaining to any players, because I cannot afford it and yea I cannot afford it. I mean paying $60+ for a sports polo is a bit ridiculous to me. Same with spending $100+ on a pair of shoes.
     
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    Iconic apparel

    I totally agree. The main difference between the iconic apparel from the 80s and 90s is that lines lasted much longer then, a whole season / year, with only a few color iterations but same iconic design.

    Think of the Adidas Lendl / Edberg stuff from the 80s and you can associate each design with a particular year / season.

    The Nadal /Federer stuff is just a quick fading blur of designs and colors. The rate at which their apparel is updated means it won't have the same lasting impact.
     
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  8. MAXXply

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    Yes, exactly. I've moaned about this in previous posts. Today's pro gear is just meaningless...I couldn't tell you what Fed or Rafa wore last year, maybe a blue coloured polo? No hang on it was teal coloured..oh no it was red with one Swoosh on the chest.
    Whereas we both could probably bore others here in recalling every signature range of Lendl, Edberg etc. Bonus points for Steffi Graf's gear:)
     
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    Iconic designs of the 80s and 90s

    Let's try this, a little contest for the experts:

    Find the correct year / player for the following apparel:

    Sergio Tacchini New Young Line
    Nike Checkerboard (black & blue)
    Nike checkerboard (ripped layers design, multi-color)
    Puma stacked discs
    Adidas Argyle
    Adidas the face
    Adidas SE
    Adidas topography
    Reebok lateral lines
    Mizuno Eagle
    Sergio Tacchini Archer
    Fila rainfall
    Nike hot lava

    That should do for now. :)
     
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  10. MAXXply

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    McEnroe 84---Sergio Tacchini New Young Line
    McEnroe 85---Nike Checkerboard (black & blue)
    McEnroe 86?---Nike checkerboard (ripped layers design, multi-color)
    Becker late 86?---Puma stacked discs
    Lendl 83/84?---Adidas Argyle (followed by the adidas Lendl diagonal blocks 85)
    Lendl 87---Adidas the face
    Edberg 87---Adidas SE
    Edberg 90?---Adidas topography (I called it the WW2 Blitzkrieg bombing map)
    Chang/Sanchez/Mecir et.al up to Stich, 86-91---Reebok lateral lines (longtime design)
    Lendl 89/90?---Mizuno Eagle (before the 89 adidas Lendl IL multicolour block)
    Sampras 90---Sergio Tacchini Archer
    Becker 89---Fila rainfall
    Agassi 90---Nike hot lava

    Any others? How'd I go? :)
     
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  11. jokinla

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    I certainly didn't pay $100 for them back in the 80's.
     
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    Iconic designs trivia

    Excellent performance!

    The Mizuno Eagle was 1990, the ripped checkered pattern by Nike was worn by Johnny Mac and Agassi in 1987, The Adidas SE design was worn in 1988and the Becker Puma design was worn in 1987.

    Come to think of it, i think 1987 was the best vintage year ever!
     
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    ^^Yeah, around 1987-88 it becomes a bit of blur, there was so much cool stuff happening. And we haven't even gotten to the shoes! We can pretty much trace Lendl's shoe history from the Superga, the adidas Grand Prix, and just two or three(?) iterations of the Lendl signature shoes then culminating in the Mizunos. But that's another thread...

    Not forgetting:
    --Edberg's ranges c.91-94(?) I liked his "airbrush" shirt when he won the USO. His "Scottish plaid" one was pretty ordinary though.
    --Becker's "Bouncing balls" complete with BB logo, Puma, 88-89 pre-Fila?

    Honourable mentions:
    Nike's Supreme Court line ("SC")
    Adidas "ATP" line, early 80s - Curren, Nastase et.al.
    It was good how Adidas back then had the marketing foresight to position a generic but still instantly recogniseable apparel range for all their other ATP pros - the shirts that Tim Mayotte, Marty Davis and Leif Shiras used to wear, for instance.
     
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  14. Herve

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    Iconic designs

    I second that.

    I would add the 1987 Pat Cash ST lined top, 1988 Mats Wilander ST multi-colored stripy top, anything by Le Coq Sportif worn by Noah.

    BTW, did you know that Fila has re-released the 1989 Becker range for the 2nd time?

    It's a moden take on a classic line, but it's beautifully made, but for some reason very hard to find.

    2nd half of the 90s were mostly fugly and loud, noughties till now, yawn!
     
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    Ha! The Pat Cash "squiggly lines" Tacchini shirts. The Wilander multicolour thick vertical stripes - that he kinda ruined when he wore his sleeveless pullover (muscle top in today's language) at the 88 USO trophy presentation - it kinda turned me off that range, nice though it was...LOL
     
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  16. Bobby Jr

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    Attempts above. This was my growing up era in tennis so I have owned many of these designs.
     
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  17. Bobby Jr

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    Their shirts and shoes were amongst the best Nike ever made. The first Courier SC shirts I've never seen on the auction sites... I still have one of the originals in pretty good condition I bought in Japan in 1993... Courier wore it in 2 or 3 different colour variants.

    [​IMG]
     
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    There were both vertical and horizontal versions but Wilander wore the horizontal ones. I have the whole (upper half of the) outfit - shirt, vest and tracksuit.

    Wilander's best range imo was the late 87 up to the French Open 88 range with the scribble on the chest.
     
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    Iconic designs

    My bad, you are right, the Wilander 88 ST design was horizontal, not vertical, as previously stated. I own the vest, still looking for a polo.

    I wasn't that keen on the Jason Pollock squiggly lines after that. Cash and Wilander wore it. There are a few polos available right now in Italy on the bidding site.

    Good mention about the Nike SC line, it's worth remembering
     
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  20. MAXXply

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    The adidas designers must've been a pretty cultured bunch back in the day. I'm sure art school was part of their education - the Lendl "face" design c.1987 is highly reminiscent of Salvador Dali, the Edberg "SE" was inspired by Catalan artist Joan Miro and yeah, I reckon the Tacchini squiggly line range is Jackson Pollock-ish in its paint-splattery way. Even Lendl's last adidas range, the colourful "IL" square is a take on Dutch artist Piet Mondrian's geometric paintings.

    It was nice of Nike to build Courier's range around his love for baseball, and IIRC, the Cincinnati Reds. The pinstripes looked great and that pennant-style "SC" logo was just the schizz for an impressionable fanboi like me c.93-94. It helped that seemingly all the Instruction Pros featured in Tennis Magazine at the time were decked out head to toe in the SC range. People like Tim/Tom? Gullickson and the biomechanics expert, Jack Groppell. Dennis van der Meer OTOH, must've had deals with adidas apparel.
     
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  21. Bobby Jr

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    I have the horizontal polo in the rainbow colours (red/yellow/blue/red/green) and the one which was a more subdued range of colours. There was one more I could never get which was just five different shades of purple.

    Re: the squiggly lines shirt. To my knowledge Wilander and Cash never wore the same Tacchini outfit unless it was really early days (pre-85). Cash's first designery polo was this (from the 88 Aussie Open onwards):
    [​IMG]

    Wilander wore this one at that time (from the 87 US Open through to the 88 Wimbledon - the colours were flipped prior to the Aussie Open) I have the polo and jersery of this and sold the warm-up on the bay last year for good coin:
    [​IMG]

    Next up I have the Aussie Open polo, vest and whole warm-up of the 89-90 'spray paint' range... the infamous range where he lost to Sampras at the US Open as the defending champ. Here's the AO 90 polo.
    [​IMG]

    ...and Sampras' first GOAT Tacchini range came at the US Open in 89 when he beat Wilander, the 'chalk duster' range. I have that polo and warm-up also. This came the year before the archer range when Pete won his first major.
    [​IMG]
     
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    Wow, that's just horrible. Horrible. :)
     
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    That was a vest that Wilander wore, not a muscle shirt.
     
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  24. MAXXply

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    ^^ Yes I know, I meant to say that he wore that vest/pullover in a muscle top fashion, without anything underneath. Just that vest on his sweaty body as he held that trophy aloft. That look was a bit meh.

    Bobby Jr, the only brand I've seen in recent times that did colourful geometric designs front and centre on a white shirt like your Tacchinis is Czech brand ALEA, as worn by Stepanek.
     
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  25. Bobby Jr

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    At the time though it was a good alternative to the neon light styles Agassi wore (and before Sampras joined Nike). The early baseball inspired stuff of Courier's was awesome generally - although some of the block colour outfits were a bit much.
     
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    This is my favorite and oldest shirt that i own.
    [​IMG]
    As far of prices of vintage stuff, some people had been looking for the shirts for a long time, so sellers take advantage of that. Collectors economy 101
     
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  27. Lucy Brown

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    eb*y has some used Agassi shirts from 150.00-200.00. I would never pay that (especially for a used shirt) but I'm not a collector.
     
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  28. Bobby Jr

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    Nice, that was the later variation which had the coloured waves on both sides of the shirt, cuffed sleeves and the archer was block filled with black outlines as opposed to being shaded like the original version. I think it was for the Asian (Japan mostly) market - when I was there in the early 90s I often saw designs or variations on designs I never saw anywhere else.

    Where was it made? I think those ones might have been when ST started licensing stuff out for manufacture.
     
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    Nice collection!

    That's a very nice collection Bobby Jr! must have taken you a fair amount of time amassing such treasures! :)

    I've been concentrating on the ST "greek / roman" series, with the archer, discobolo, etruscan heads etc...

    my prize, however, is the ST top Cash wore for his historical win at Wimby in 87. Took me years to find that one.

    You're right, i got the Wilander scruffy lines design confused with the Pollock cash design, they never wore the same outfit.

    I'd love to play in ST again, but it's nearly impossible: by the time you find a nice top, the matching shorts have gone, or the sizing is completely off.

    These guys are not exactly helping themselves.
     
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    The tags said made in Italy
     
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    My denim shorts fell apart years ago but i really enjoyed them!
     
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    Nice one - those are some good shirts I reckon. I have about 15 ST polos and maybe 5 warm-ups. My brother was kind enough to dump his collection on my many years ago. I've got the Cash Wimbledon polo in two colour versions also.

    They did some other lesser known designs which I really rated - Sergi Bruguera's stuff wasn't really my thing but some of the other Sampras designs were pretty cool in their own way.
     
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    hey when will the vintage stuff be released?
    and anyone got pictures?
     
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    nailed it!
     
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    The recently retroed line of Agassi shoes has been really good value though. $US 119 for brand new versions of his Air Tech Challenge II.

    I got these the other day and I love them:
    https://www.flickr.com/photos/kickpix/14602490359/

    Not sure why TW don't stock them?

    There is a pair of the original version of this shoe on the auction site for $1000!
     
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    Retro, Baby!

    Denim tennis shorts in a modern length would be Awesome with a capital A.

    And the shirt with the checkerboard racing stripe across it as well.

    I'm all in for those.
     
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    Nike does not allow us to sell them online.

    Thanks,
    Tiffani, TW
     
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    Nike need to release a retro Agassi line with the quickness!
     
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    You can get some of his stuff on the bay

    just noticed people above said this whoops
     
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    JMac wore it, right? Sweet. Dri-fit, some cool color options (white shirt, different brighter colors for the checkerboard).
     
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    Yes, Mac did wear that. I remember buying the warmup jacket with the same pattern. White with the blue checkerboard racing stripe. Orgasmic!
    I wore it til it turned into lint vapor!
     
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    The Sergio Tacchini New Young Line came out in 1983 for sale but McEnroe debuted it at the 1982 U.S. Open wearing the pastel blue and yellow.
     
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