PRINCE BEAST XP 17 g

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  1. neil1b

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    A I the only one that likes this stuff? I have a full bed at 54# in an exo3 tour 100 and love it. Mayby it's just the flexy frame I have, but please give me your experiences. Seems to have the right mix of power/control with spin but not too much spin. Touch shots are also much better than with rpm,barb wire, alien.
     
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  2. neverstopplaying

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    I'm playing the 16ga right now in a full setup at 56/54 and also enjoying Beast. I've done several gut/beast hybrids in the past and also liked them.

    I enjoy the feel most as it is quite crisp without being stiff. Also seems to maintain its elasticity longer than many other brands.

    It's on sale now so I'm thinking about getting more.
     
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  3. Kenny022593

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    I liked it when I tried it, but it is just too expensive.
     
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  4. scotus

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    Beast performs well longer than any other poly I have tried. I usually cut out polys after 2 hitting sessions, but I can keep Beast for 8 sessions. It still plays well after, but I cut it out, just to play it safe for my arm.

    Some posters here have complained that it feels plasticky. Since I use it as a cross with gut mains, I have not had that sensation except on a couple of occasions with the 17 gauge.

    I prefer the 16 gauge. it feels more solid and I think I hit heavier shots with it.
     
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  5. scotus

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    To be honest, I prefer the RPM Blast for spin, but I am getting too lazy to re-string every other hitting session.
     
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  6. themitchmann

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    I'm playing it in a hybrid with Premier Attack. Digging it at this point. Usually, I play Tour Bite in the mains.
     
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  7. frunk

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    My coach and I hated this stuff when we play tested it.
     
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  8. Larrysümmers

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    ditto. 60lbs on the warrior oversize, sent tingles down my spine it was so good. BUT NOT $15 GOOD lol
     
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  9. scotus

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    It is on sale for less than $10.
     
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  10. neil1b

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    It good to hear others have enjoyed it as well. I, at first thought it was a gimmick when it came out with the eyeball and all. I recently tried a demo from tw with it and was shocked by the comfort/feel for a full poly. After purchasing the exo3 tour 100 18x20 I went out and bought a reel.

    Do all of you play with a full bed, or hybrid? If so please and me the tensions you found work best on your racquet.

    If you hybrid, let me know what string to hybrid with and I'll give it a shot next time I restring it. That's the beauty of stringing yourself, you can experiment more and don't get killed with labor charges.

    Thanks all
     
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  11. hescobal

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    I agree. I tried it when they were given out for string playtests. I found it good at the time, but at its price, it wasn't anything special

    I like using my reels of poly that are less than $60 that work fine for me
     
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  12. mctennis

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    I see some liking it and some not. What tensions were the ones NOT liking it using?
    I see the ones liking it are at 54 and 56 lbs.
    I had it in one racquet and cut it out after one hitting session BUT I had mine at about 58 lbs. Perhaps it works better at lower tensions?
     
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  13. Ross K

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    Played with Beast/Bab N vY hybrid (52/57) yesterday for 1st time in Exo 100. I was hugely impressed by the crispy lush feel and seemingly slight additional pop. Am now curious how this/similar hybrids would perform/feel in stiffer frames.
     
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  14. MLB_MOB

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    My team gets prince stuff for free, so I tried the prince beast xp 17 quite a few times and it suck. No durability whatsoever. Out of the 6 times I used it, it broke under an hour twice, and didn't last over 6 hours the other 4 times. Isospeed lasts me a couple hours longer on average and a reel is the prince of 2 sets of strings (although im not buying the sets)
     
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  15. scotus

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    You might want to try the 16 gauge Beast XP.

    Or maybe you ought to just get Kevlar. See if you can get Pro Blend for free as well.
     
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  16. MLB_MOB

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    No I just stick to the isospeed and for now gamma zo power, I was just staying the problems I had with Beast xp
     
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  17. Kevo

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    Beast was also breaking quickly for me too. I can normally make a set of 17g competition or spiky shark last about 20 hours on my frames. I got two packs of 17g beast to test when it was released and they both broke quickly. My set broke within 2 hours, and the other set I strung for someone else, and it broke in a week. That person normally only has their racquet strung every 2-3 months.
     
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  18. nalvarado

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    Third. It was amazing in a hybrid with Alien black diamond but it is not viable for me to buy both in bulk.

    Edit: Which reminds me I still have a half set of Beast!
     
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  19. Bobby Jr

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    I tried it when testing some polys for me Wilson PS85 and it was by far the worst string out of about 5 or 6 polys I tried. And it was the most expensive one too.

    It just played way too stiff (all polys tried were done at the same initial tension) and even looked whack in that odd green colour.

    That said, I dont know the longevity of it as I played about 4-6 one hour sessions with each string I tried (often doing two at a time for comparison sake) and then cut them out. Maybe as a hybrid it would be much better but the colour honestly was a deal-breaker for me regardless.
     
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  20. JackB1

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    really enjoying a Beast/Attack hybrid in my EXO3 Warrior and this is my first poly in the mains experience. Soft and plush with nice power. Just feels great on contact.
     
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  21. scotus

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    Sounds like you needed to drop the tension.

    You can't just test all sorts of strings at the same tension. Depending on the string's own properties, tensions have to be adjusted.

    Try one set at your favorite tension, and if it feels too stiff, lower the tension on the next set.
     
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  22. scotus

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    Beast 16 feels even better to me than 17.
     
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  23. JackB1

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    How can that be? I guess its possible because the Warrior demo I tried had full setup of Beast 16 and it felt amazing. I just assumed a hybrid setup with Beast 17 mains and a softer multi in the crosses would add more comfort and power?

    Have you compared Beast 16 to 17 in the same racquet? Also have you tried hybrids or full beds?
     
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  24. scotus

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    The same comfort can be had with thicker gauge if you lower the tension a couple of pounds.

    The same feel you like about Beast, I find more in the 16 gauge than in the 17 gauge.
     
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  25. cknobman

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    I just strung my racquet with beast 17/premier attack 16 hybrid last night for the first time and I am hitting the courts tonight to see how it feels.

    I strung beast in mains @55lbs and premier attack in crosses @60lbs.

    Will report back to give you guys an update.

    As for stringing it was fairly easy. Beast seemed very stiff and there was practically zero stretch in the string. Premier attack seemed super super soft and flexible with a decent amount of stretch in them (usually needed 2 pulls before I could clamp it).

    Very intrigued how this performs because it looks wicked with the green and black in my blue Dunlop!
     
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  26. Automatix

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    Hmmm... I didn't find the Beast to be stiff what so ever.
    It is actually very comfortable for a poly if you ask me.
     
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  27. jjs891

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    I think Beast is pretty soft and elastic compared to most polys.

    I was thinking that it is almost a cross between poly and stiff syngut.
     
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  28. neverstopplaying

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    I tried out another Gut/Beast hybrid this week. Again, very happy.

    So far I can't say the 400T is very string sensitive, but I've been most satisfied with the Classic gut /Beast and SS/Classic gut setups. Decent, controllable power, adequate spin, comfort, and I believe better for an all-court game.

    I wouldn't mind trying some Beast in the x's. I haven't seen much difference between putting gut in the mains or crosses, but haven't played them simultaneously.
     
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  29. cknobman

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    Reporting back from my first hit with the beast xp/premier attack hybrid last night.

    Played 4 sets of doubles and just hit groundstrokes and serves for about another 30 minutes.

    : The most comfortable setup I have ever hit with.
    : Tons of spin production.
    : Fairly low powered.
    : Minimal string movement (beast did not move one iota but premier attack would move ever so slightly)

    On groundstrokes I was able to really produce some amazing shots when focusing on trying to generate spin. Could swing out freely and rely on the spin to dip the ball in. Found I could actually get pretty good sidespin on the ball and make it "hook".

    Due to low power I found if I did not swing hard that my ball would land short and get destroyed by opponent. Had to force myself to swing harder on my one handed backhand to keep it deep in court.

    Serves took some adjusting. First set of serves I was getting hammered because there was too much spin and not enough pace. Found I could reliably hit a strong kick or sidespin serve but needed to put extra effort into getting pace. After first set I changed my grip a little and was able to increase the pace of my serve while still retaining some spin. Once I made the adjustments my serve was rocking. Last 2 sets of the evening I was holding at love the majority of the time and even scoring some aces.

    Overall impression:
    One of my favorite hybrids to have ever played with so far. This string is super comfortable and generates unbelievable spin. I cannot comment on durability yet so we will see how long this lasts.

    For reference I normally play with Wilson Sensation Duo Hybrid (Enduro Pro/Sensation).
    I have also played with Babolat Pro Hurricane/Nvy hybrid and a Kirshbaum Pro Line/Prince Syn Gut hybrid.
     
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  30. JackB1

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    This is my go to hybrid with my Warrior. What racquet is this in and what tension was it strung at? I do mine at 52/54 and it's not low powered at all.
     
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  31. cknobman

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    I strung it in my Dunlop BioMimetic 200 Lite. Racquet is not the most powerful out there to begin with.

    Mains: Beast XP @60lbs
    Crosses: Premier Attack @55lbs
     
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  32. JackB1

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    ok now it makes sense. That isn't a very powerful racquet, plus you did it the opposite that you should have :). The poly needs to be strung about 4 lbs less than the multi. Next time try 52 for the Beast and 56 for the Attack. You'll love it!
     
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  33. Korso

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    I liked them but the performance did not justify the price.
     
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  34. cknobman

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    OOPS dangit I wrote that wrong!!!!! I did it Beast XP @55 & Premier @60.

    You are correct poly should always be lower than the multi.

    Good idea, next time I will go 3-4 lbs lower for each string and see how it goes.
     
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  35. cknobman

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    Price is only $12.00.

    Comparatively speaking its not that expensive of a string these days. Although $12 is just about my upper limit.
    Considering Wilson Sensation Duo Hybrid and Babolat Pro Huriicane/Nvy hybrid are both $10 I think this setup is well worth the $2 extra.

    What is your limit for strings?
     
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  36. Larrysümmers

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    im just a broke b@stard lol
     
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  37. Buddy

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    Really enjoy this string in a hybrid with nat gut. Cost is not an issue with a half set to mute the power of the gut main. Excellent control and spin. Does what a poly is expected to do.
     
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  38. KoaUka

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    Anyone ever tried gamma tnt black as a cross w/ the beast?
    Would also like to hear about any successful crosses w/ the beast mains as well. TIA
     
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  39. JackB1

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    Prince Attack works well as a cross for Beast.
     
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  40. Samo

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    I was testing IG Radical Pro yesterday freshly strung with Beast 17g mains @ 23kg and Rip Control crosses @ 22kg. I liked this setup, but Beast snapped after 1.5h. I just wonder is this common that Beast snaps so quickly?
     
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  41. JackB1

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    not common at all.

    sounds like a freak accident to me.
     
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  42. cknobman

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    Well after rave reviews of my first round of Beast I strung my second racquet with it last week.

    The Beast in my mains snapped in less than 3 hours.
    It snapped in the upper part of the hoop on one of my outer main strings.
    Not sure if it was a bad string job where maybe I damaged the string with clamps or if I shanked it just right to cause the snap but I was really disappointed.

    I will give it one more try and report back on the durability.
     
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  43. KoaUka

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    how far near the top? If close to the grommet, by bet would be a sharp grommet edge. Or coulda been like you said, clamps too tight.
     
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  44. ricki

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    Pay no attention to naysayaers, they:
    1) string poly over 60 lbs.
    2) exaggerate

    Try it yourself, and dont even listen to someone claiming that he breaks 16g poly in an hour!!!

    Me break 15G kevlar in 10 minutes, and steel wire in 30!
     
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  45. Samo

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    It snapped in the middle of the string bed, but quite high towards the tip of the racquet (just a bit higher where my strings normally snap) - i hope what I've written isn't an oxymoron:) . However it didn't feel like a mis-hit and it certainly wasn't a shank.

    I will try my normal setup (Sonic pro/Rip Control) during the weekend and see how long it lasts.
     
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  46. JackB1

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    definitely a stringing issue or a bad grommet. My local tennis shop has most of their Prince demos strung with Beast and some have lasted more than 6 months. Are you using the 16g?

    I would try a different stringer / machine.
     
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  47. cknobman

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    Oh because if you have not done it then it must be a lie!!!
    Get over yourself :rolleyes:

    I never said it was the strings fault and even alluded to a possible clamping issue.

    @KoaUka: It was about 3 1/2 inches down from the grommet, so I'd say too far to directly attribute the break to the grommet. I still believe it was either a bad shank at the wrong location or a clamp that caused it.
     
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  48. EastAngels2014

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    i use beast as well, i like it a lot. Good spin and power as well as durability. I was looking in to doing a hybrid, any suggestions?
     
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  49. Rabbit

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    I've read some very good things about Beast Attack
     
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  50. Torres

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    Sports place near me is having a liquidiation sale and I can get a reel for around $100, so am thinking of taking a punt.

    Am surprised by the differences in comments from the RSI playtesters: http://www.racquetsportsindustry.com/articles/2011/03/playtest_prince_beast_xp.html

    Can anyone describe the characteristics of this string, how it plays, and comparisons with say Black Magic?

    Would it be fair to say that it plays firm/stiff, reasonable power, reasonable/average spin, slightly 'old school' rather than like the softer, more elastic, grippier/bitier co-polys you get nowadays?
     
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