Prince EXO3 Tour ESP

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  1. 808

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    Hey guys, do you perchance already have an ETA on the upcoming Prince EXO3 Tour ESP?

    Thanks!
     
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    Hello,
    we are checking this with Prince and update you here once we have their answer.
    Thanks,
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    Yay, thank you Stefan!
     
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  4. TWE Staff

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    Hello,
    according to Prince there is no real date for this racquet at the moment other than "sometime in 2013".
    Sorry,
    Stefan/TWE
     
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    OK, no problem. Thank you!
     
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  6. ollinger

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    Prince is famous for silly drawn-out introductions of products. The NXG series was introduced with one tiny piece of a picture of the racquet being added each week to the website over I believe a few months, until the entire picture was filled in.
     
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    FWIW, the supposed release date is February 2013 or so I heard. Anyway, we'll see.
     
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  8. Mig1NC

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    Can't wait to demo the ESP against the Steam 99S. That should be a fun trip.
     
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  9. g4driver

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    Any update on the Prince EXO3 Tour 100 ESP ?

    Thanks
     
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    We will check with Prince if there are already more news on this.
    thanks,
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  11. g4driver

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    I spoke with the Prince Product Manager, Tyler just a few mins ago.

    Planned to be released Fall 2013

    Prince EXO Tour ESP

    64 FLEX
    300 grams
    16x16 pattern
    Roughly 31.5 balance (nicely done as about 8-10 Points Headlight )

    Looking forward to this fall.
     
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    Are those unstrung specs? Or strung? Seems like 8-10 HL and 300 grams strung would have a very low swingweight.
     
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  13. g4driver

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    unstrung specs

    I asked him about the stiffness describing my disappointment with so many frames from many companies, including Prince and Wilson that measure over 65 RDC.

    I told him that I had purchased Prince O3 White, EXO White, Exo Black and a few Wilson and Babolat Frames and my arm just keep saying "no thanks"

    Told him I think, a more flexible frame will provide the added control a very open pattern like a Wilson Steam 99S needs. That was Prince's logic as well. He mentioned the two pros using the frame now and was very excited with their results.

    I didn't ask about the Swingweight, but I plan to add about 16-18 grams of lead to get the static weight up to roughly 336 - 338 grams. The stock frame is 300 grams.

    So 300+15 grams (strings) and 5 grams (overgrip) = 320 grams with strings.

    The Swingweight can be tweaked with lead, so I am looking forward to hitting with this frame.
     
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    Did he mention who the two pros are?
     
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  15. g4driver

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    300 grams unstrung

    320 with strings and an overgrip would be a rough guess.

    338 when I had some lead. ;)
     
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  16. g4driver

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    Antonia Lottner was one. I am sorry I forget the other one.
     
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    Leave it to the Germans...
     
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  18. TWE Staff

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    Hello,
    not much more information about the delivery date available at the moment.
    Only "sometime late Summer/Fall 2013".
    Thanks,
    Stefan/TWE
     
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    Hope this isn't an O port frame
     
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  20. themitchmann

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    The ESP Tour is an O port frame.
     
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  21. scotus

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    64 RA?

    I'll have to wait for something south of 60.
     
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  22. themitchmann

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    Even with such an open pattern?
     
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  23. mikeler

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    Probably worth a demo just to see if the stiffness is bothersome.
     
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    How is Prince? I've heard although they're out of bankruptcy there are still many problems.
     
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  25. scotus

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    I have a very sensitive elbow. I can't mess around with stiff racquets.
     
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    Being recently out of bankruptcy is a little like being recently out of jail --- you're probably a little strapped for cash and people (creditors) are going to wait a bit to see if you've really reformed your behavior.
     
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  27. Mig1NC

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    Wow, that post went a different direction than I thought it was going :)
     
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  28. Automatix

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    Well, if they release this frame in a 27,5 inch long version... let me just say I'll be buying four at least.
     
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  29. themitchmann

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    That would be interesting.
     
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    No, that would be brilliant. ;)
     
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  31. scotus

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    If they don't, I might buy a Team or Light version and extend it by 0.5 to 1 inch.
     
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  32. Automatix

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    With the lack of extended players frames I'm considering molding a longer handle.
     
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  33. PBODY99

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    The lack of extended length frames is short sighted on the part of the manufactures. Since they want to have low pick up weight the extra length gives it a player swing-weight and fits with the profile of a good size group of players.
     
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    Prince Esp Pic

    Listen up... watch the video on the Prince website called "I Play Prince" and pause it at 9 seconds. It is the best picture of the Prince ESP you will find.


    I am Darkwing Duck
     
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  35. g4driver

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    I can't find the link you are referring to

    Can you post it?
     
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  37. Federerkblade

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    come on guys a week and no response. r u all the french open ??
     
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  38. TW Staff

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    @Federerkblade,

    I wish we were all at the French Open, but sadly I have been at my desk. We have no response for you because we don't have any news unfortunately.

    A wild approximation would be September/October, it's annoying seeing other people getting it and not having any news but we haven't actually heard anything from Prince.

    I'll try to make sure to keep you all updated if/when I hear anything.

    Siobhan, TW
     
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  39. Federerkblade

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    anything new siobhan
     
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    @Federerkblade,

    Still same info. Approximately end of September, early October is looking like when they're going to be available to you guys -- just so you know, we often have order dates but they're never set in stone so we're still a little up in the air about exact days. Will keep you posted!

    Siobhan, TWE
     
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  41. tmc5005

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    Is it out yet?
     
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    Hello tmc5005,

    nope, not yet.

    thanks,
    Stefan/TWE
     
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  43. JRM1

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    Hey guys, just recently came off a playtest of this racket. Unfortunately no photos, sorry! But any questions I will gladly answer.
    Specs:
    Unstrung Weight- 300g 10.6 oz
    Headsize- 100 sq inches
    Unstrung Balance- 31.5 cm (Off memory)
    String Pattern- 16x16
    Swingweight- 285
     
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  44. mikeler

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    How was the spin? What strings were in it? How soft was it? Did you feel the launch angle of the ball off the racket was high?
     
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  45. g4driver

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    Did you ever hit with a Wilson Steam 99S for comparison of the two frames ?

    Wondering how the Prince ESP Tour felt compared to the Steam in the stiffness aspect ?
     
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  46. Mig1NC

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    Yeah, I'd really like to get an idea for the stiffness.
     
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  47. g4driver

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    This spring I spoke with one of the Product Managers from Prince who had detailed information about the frame and which players were using it. He believe he told me it measured 64 which was right in the range of 64-66 I was hoping for.
     
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  48. JRM1

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    Hi again,
    Mikeler
    Ridiculous spin, I hit with a lot anyway, more than I normally get.
    An orange Prince experimental poly (guessing new Beast Bite?)
    My blade has the stiffness around 64, a complete softer racket, great comfort!
    I hit with a lot of spin normally, so it didn't take a lot getting used to but it was, surprisingly even when hitting flatter, still retained control.
    g4driver
    Unfortunately not, but we tested 3 rackets. The Tour 100 ESP, Rebel 98 ESP and Warrior 100 ESP. Overall this would be racket of choice if the weight was 11.7 oz and a swingweight around 330.
    Really good playtest, one of the best I've hit with in a while!

    Thanks!
     
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  49. JRM1

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    Asked TW's Andy Gerst via YouTube. They're currently playtesting them, and a speculated release date around Mid October-November

    Thanks
     
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    Good stuff. Can't wait for these things to come out.
     
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