Prince EXO3 Warrior 100 Review

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  1. JackB1

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    EXO3 Warrior 100 Review & Home of "The Warriors"

    OK, I just got a demo of the new Prince Warrior 100. Plan on hitting with it tomorrow if it stays dry enough!!! I never liked the Prince Black but this new offering is intriguing. Nice mid stiffness level of 64 with perfect "players-tweener" specs of 11oz, 320 sw and 24 beam. The specs are almost identical to my regular racquet...the Becker DC Pro, so I should feel right at home with it almost immediately.

    I weighed my racquet and it was 328 grams with dampener and overgrip. Came in at 4 1/2 pts headlite. It swings quicker through the air than my Becker...probably due to the O-ports. I will try it stock first, but I am thinking it may need a little lead to keep it from feeling too "whippy". My demo is strung with full Prince Lightning XX and I think I am the first to get this demo...it looks unused. The paintjob is OK....mostly black with some white and silver. Not a flashy look, but not ugly either. I wonder if u can get this racquet with the regular string holes on the sides, as opposed to the port holes? I just hate stringing racquets with the port holes!

    Stay tuned! More to come! If anyone else has hit with this racquet already, please let me know what your thought were.
     
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    I would like to hear how your demo goes. I play occasionally with a Prince Black while I'm away from home and I'm curious how they compare?
     
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    ok I got to play 2 sets today with the warrior and its a nice racquet. Wasn't as whippy as I thought it was going to be and it felt pretty solid stock and I don't think I would add any weight to it. The beam is a little thicker than I would like and it the racquet does feel a little large and clunky. For some reason the hoop looks bigger than other 100" racquets. The racquet has a nice combination of power and control. Not quite as powerful as my Becker, but no slouch either. Spin was easy to get with the very open pattern and round shaped head. I hit some nice kickers with it, but couldn't get the same pace as normal on flatter serves. Feel was in the middle...not too flexy and not too stiff.
    Really liked this racquet from the baseline. Groundstrokes felt good and you didn't have to work too hard to maintain depth. Volleys were very good and the racquet felt nice and solid on punch volleys.

    I think this racquet could fit a wide variety of players and would be a great choice for 3.5-4.0 players. I think this is a nice upgrade from the EXO3 Black and White.
     
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    played some more today...I think this racquet will be a big hit with intermediate players. Seems to do everything well. I could definitely switch to this racquet and not miss a beat. Problem is it really doesn't do anything BETTER than my current racquet, but its very close. I may pick one up down the line so I can try it with my own strings.

    if anyone has any questions about the Warrior, I would be happy to answer.
     
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    Just wondering how freely you were able to swing when flattening out on groundies? Also if you were to put some lead on the frame, where do you feel it most needs some?

    Thanks
     
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    Lead would be a personal thing. I didn't think it needed any.

    I usually don't hit totally flat, but I was able to swing pretty freely on groundies, but it is a powerful frame like the Aeropro Drive or Head Extreme.
     
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    how would you compare it to the exo tour 100?
     
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    This frame is indeed very interesting. I really like Black, but it is a bit heavy for me. Warrior looks like perfect tweener. I hope i will get chance to try it.
     
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    not as demanding

    more powerful

    not as muted and soft feeling

    lighter swinging
     
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    It really is the perfect tweener....much like my extremely underrated Becker Pro.
     
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    How would you say it is in terms of arm-friendlyness?
     
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  12. El Diablo

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    I had two hits with the racquet and I'd say it's strengths are serve (excellent), groundstrokes and comfort (very plush, though balls hit very high in the stringbed transmit some distinctive feel). I was less smitten with volleys, felt some flutter you'd anticipate with a racquet barely north of 11 ounces, some lead-on-the-head might be nice.
     
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    felt very comfortable to me. I think its rated in the low 60's,
    I would say this racquet would be safe for all but the most sensitive elbows.
     
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    I got this as a slightly more powerful alternative to my Dunlop 4D 300. After a few hours, I agree, it's a great tweener racket for 3.5+ players. I especially like it for the serve and two handed backhand. Good pace and depth. Was also able to swing freely without hitting long all the time. Moderate power and heavy enough to be able to return harder hit serves and ground strokes from 3.5 4.0 players. Timing was a bit off on the forehand as the swing speed felt a big sluggish. Maybe due to the thickness of the frame. It's also easy on the arms and shoulders. Mine was strung with full gut at 58lbs which helps. It's a keeper for me.
     
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    I don't find it sluggish at all...rather whippy through the air due to the o-ports.
    Really liking this frame a lot.
     
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    I am not sure why this frame isn't generating more interest? The new Rebel 98 seems to be getting all the praise, but this new Warrior 100 deserves as much,if not more attention. Its more powerful than the Rebel98 and doesn't require as fast a swing. It also feels more solid than the Rebel on impact and can be used very well in stock form. Its not too stiff and not too flexy...very comfortable. I really can't find anything to not like about it. Where's the love people? :)

    Maybe its because TW hasn't reviewed it yet?
     
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    Yeah, tweener rackets are under appreciated in general, but its probably cause the Rebel 98 shares its name with a great players frame.
     
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    I currently have both and play with lots of other 3.5s to 4.5s, teammates, etc., and EVERY one that has tried both liked the Warrior much better.
     
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    This would be a racquet I would be interested in, but I as a home stringer I have shied away from all Prince frames. How has it been to string? Did you order one of those space filling thingies? I use a Klippermate and while is used have a pin of some sort I believe to act as a brake it no longer does...though I guess I could find something to fit. Just don't feel like adding hassle to what is already a bit time consuming. Thoughts as a fellow home stringer?
     
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    I hear ya, but its not that bad to string. It only comes into play on about half of the crosses and the ports actually make some things easier, like threading the strings through and also pulling the cross string slack through.

    I didn't order a boomerang yet and have been using my turntable brake, but you just need something to stick in there to space out the string. Some use a sharpie cap, some use socket wrench extensions, some also use an S-hook, which I want to try next. Look for the thread about Prince O Ports in the stringing section. Lots of great tips. I don't think that should keep you from trying this outstanding racquet.

    Edit: here's the thread http://tt.tennis-warehouse.com/showthread.php?t=409672
     
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    Thanks for the feedback. I just watched Irvin's 50/50 as well...doesn't seem too bad either I guess. Though easier w/ fixed clamps.
     
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  22. minitraveller

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    Agree!

    I agree..... I got a chance to hit a few more balls with the Rebel today (second time in a few weeks) and didn't really like it that much. The first time I hit with it a few weeks ago, it seemed decent, but today, after also trying the Warrior in between, I prefer the Warrior. The Warrior just felt more comfortable in stock form, and although more powerful, it seemed easier to keep the ball in the court because of the spin. Just my opnion of course. :)
     
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    I really didn't understand all the glowing reviews the TW playtest gave the Rebel 98. It's a decent stick, but no standout IMO. Maybe for a high level player that wants a lighter control stick it would work, but Prince is marketing it as a "tweener" and there are lots of better choices IMO for "tweenerish", including the Warrior 100. The Rebel 98 feels much less solid at the same weight as the Warrior and really doesn't beat it in any category IMO.

    That said, I am seriously considering making the switch to the Warrior. It is so similar to my Becker DCP but offers a more "normal" gripsize versus the Becker and I also prefer the cosmetics and the Prince name over the Becker name. I have been using the Warrior the past 2 weeks and adapted to it rather quickly and have been playing just as well with it. Also, it doesn't require any lead tape whatsoever, where the Becker does.. The Warrior 100 is probably one of the most solid feeling 11 oz racquets I have ever used. It also has the plowthru of a 12 oz stick. Can't say enough good things about this stick. Prince really improved on the White and Black and the Warrior is the 1st Prince OPort stick that doesn't feel muted and dampened. Its pretty crisp but comfortable with a nice feeling on impact. Any 3.5-4.0s in the market for a new stick with decent swingweight and power should give this one a look.
     
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    I have been playing with both as well (rebel 98 and warrior 100). They are both great racquets. Like jack said the warrior is the perfect tweener and i agree with his review on the warrior. Its not as powerful as a pd (a good thing), good control, not too stiff and very comfortable. However im loving the 98 right now. The rebel 98 is more of a light weight players racquet, is forgiving and has decent power and good plow through, and imo has more contol then the warrior. Prince is doing a great job wifh their new racquets. Im sold on the rebel 98 right now, but would like both of them in my bag.
     
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    I'm making the switch to the Warrior. I'm very picky about grip shape, and the Prince is my favorite. Wilson and Dunlop work well enough, too, but I can't get used to the more rectangular shapes of Head, Volkl and other brands. I previously used a Dunlop 300, but I'm looking for something with more power and weight in stock form. I tested a Warrior last weekend and immediately took to it. I'll definitely swap out the stock grip for leather, and probably add a few grams of lead to partially offset the added weight in the handle, but the Warrior felt fine in stock form.
     
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    Oh no don't tempt me guys!! After trying 1,000 frames to replace my APDC+ (shoulder gets sore from all the whipping on forehands and second serves that it lures me into) I failed to find one I felt comfortable with but lately I find myself pulling out a Prince Rebel Team to give myself a break because it is sOooo comfortable to hit with (it rewards flatter hitting and has such a pleasant feel on impact). I can play pretty well with it but it certainly has much less bite and easy depth than the APDC type frames.

    Now the specs of this Warrior are making me wonder if it would have a similar feel as the Rebel Team (virtually same stiffness rating, O-ports, prince) but with the APD headsize, sting pattern and spin/power level.

    Have any of you that tried the warrior also played the Rebel Team? Similar feel?? The weight isn't an issue, my APDC+ is ~340g and the handle weighted on the Rebel.

    Also, can you hit flat with the Warrior or does it induce you to hit with tons of topspin??
     
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    Yes Prince has done a great job with the Warrior 100 and Rebel 98 and one of those 2 should work nicely for many intermediate players. I agree the Rebel has more control than the Warrior, but I don't have to work as hard with the Warrior and its not too powerful at all. Mine is strung with multi/poly and I would imagine full poly would give lots of control to bigger hitters. I thought the Rebel lacked the solidity of the Warrior, but I could see it working for others.
     
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    Hey Jack & all. Can someone give me an idea as to how the weight is distributed on the Warrior 100? Polarized, depolarized, even balance? I've played with the Becker Pro, EXO 3 Black, APDGT & others and I've found I like racquets with more weight in the hoop.


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    It feels polarised to me, like the Becker Pro. Definitely feel a good amount of weight in the hoop. I think you will like it!
     
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    I agree. But it does not feel heavy or sluggish in any way. To me it seemed to swing like it was more headlight then what it was. It has a nice comfortable balance. Feels lighter then the black or apdgt.
     
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    Not sure if your talking about the old rebel tram or the new 98 team. Ive only hit with the rebel 98 team, but to me it was very different to the warriror. Both have a comfortable feel. But the team is more head heavy and felt like it had a higher sw. More contol and less easy power. The oval headshape makes a difference as well. Two totally different racquets. Got to demo to see what is best for your game.
     
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  32. JackB1

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    The Warrior works equally well for flat or topspin. It also has a nice feel on impact that I'm sure you will like. Definitely a better alternative than the APD.
    Similar power level and a good sized sweet spot. Just an all around great tweener without the Babolat arm issues.. Or if you want to save money, pick up the Becker DC Pro. Its VERY similar, but will only cost $89 new versus $190. I may be selling 2 of mine soon if I decide to make the switch to the Warrior. I just want to play a few more matches with it to confirm it's not just the honeymoon period :)
     
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    When u say more "normal" grip size, do u actually mean the grip size is off or is it the grip shape?
     
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    Not to dwell on the stringing issues, but I also have a Klippermate and the 50/50 is a breeze. You just need to use your starting pin as you would in starting your mains.

    Don't let the stringing hold you back!
     
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    sorry, I meant grip shape...not grip size. My mistake.
     
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    Hey Jack, slightly OT but did you notice much difference when you strung your Rebel with Pro Evolution over stock? What tension did you use?
     
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    I strung the Pro Evo at 54/52.

    I don't understand your question though? Difference over stock? Stock what?
     
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    Sorry, in UK they come prestrung with a standard string (not sure what it is), that's what I meant by stock. Did you like the Pro Evo set-up?
     
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    No I didn't, but I'm not usually a poly guy. I felt there wasn't enough power with the full poly and had to swing harder than normal to maintain pace and depth.

    However, I tried a demo with full set of Prince Beast and that felt much better for some reason.
     
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    Being a 4.5, I dismissed the warrior 100 because of it's "tweener" status but after reading this I'm strongly considering it. One of my favorite rackets I've hit with was the triple threat warrior mp so hopefully this new warrior will do the trick for me. I think with a leather grip the static weight will be at mid 11's strung with a 6-7 head light balance.
     
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    Sounds like that would be amazing. I liked the warrior a lot in stock form, but would love to try it with those specs.

    I have been leaning towards the rebel 98, but need to give the warrior some more thought. I guess i need to keep demoing! I bought the new pd on impulse when it first came out - but I regret it. The warrior is such a better racquet in that class. With the pd you can make some magical powerful shots - but it's all racquet - no feel, no touch, and no feedback. You have no idea where the balls going. Sometimes you get real lucky, sometimes not. With the warrior (or rebel 98) you feel like you are in control and if you mess up, or make a great shot, it's all you - not the racquet, and you're not fearful of hitting the ball long on every shot.
     
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    I am finding these lighter sticks play amazing and you can play at a very advanced level with a stick that is 11.5. It is basically a myth at this point that you need a heavy players stick unless your game is just more classic and thats what you play best with it.

    But also in my experience if you bring the balance to 6-7 points while the racquet is at that weight, you will lose some of the magic of the stick. If anything, you can just put a little lead at 12 and make the stick 2-3 points HL and it will plow better and play bigger for you.

    IMO Re balancing to the standard 6-8 pts HL is not really needed when the racquet is in the mid 11oz range.
     
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    Power Player,
    The racket is 11 ounces strung. I would try to get it up to the mid 11oz range with the leather grip. If 4 points headlight stock, I think a leather grip would make it 2-3 points more but you're right that some lead at 12 would counteract it. In general I prefer 6-7 points headlight after having tried the blx blade 98 but it seems like the warrior has a good balance at 4 points.
     
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    Yes, my Pro Open is the same weight. I just added 2 grams to 12 and then overgrip and dampener brings it right up to 330 grams.

    So basically you may not need the leather grip if you use an overgrip and dampener.
     
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    mine was heavier than that with just overgrip. It is 333 grams with overgrip and damper. With leather grip, it should be very close to 12 oz. It feels VERY solid stock, so with extra weight it could be a beast!
     
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    I have found the Warrior to be more than adequate stock and found no instability issues against some of my harder hitting teammates who are 4.0-4.5 level.
     
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    either I got an unusually high one or the published specs are a little off, but mine came in at 11.6 strung w/ overgrip.
     
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  48. Yourtenniscoach

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    Jack, you seem to tryout more frames that just about anyone on the boards. Do you find it hard switching from frame to frame and then back to your current racquet? I would think my arm would go through racquet confusion with all of the racquets you try.

    Do you think there is a racquet out there that will suddenly give you racquet "Nirvana" or that you'll suddenly fall in love with?
     
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    Yes, same with the Pro Open, which is basically a very similar stick. I add a little lead at 12 just to up the swingweight and it's perfect. Very solid and does not get pushed around.
     
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    I like Jack's demo tendencies because if you read his reviews, they are usually pretty accurate. So while he definitely tries a ton of sticks, it can save a lot of people time who read his posts.
     
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