Prince EXO3 Warrior 100 Review

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  1. JackB1

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    Don't forget one of the playtesters wanted to switch to this racquet and how often does that happen? I believe it wasn't a good fit for Chris or Tiffany and Brittany actually said she liked it in another thread. Bottom line is the only opinion that matters is the one of the person actually using the racquet. I know everyone likes to be reaffirmed that they made a good choice and I do to...but I think we sometimes put too much emphasis on getting others approval? We also tend to focus more on the negative and ignore the positive....the old "cup half empty" thing. No one racquet is going to please everybody and even if ALL the playtesters switched to the Warrior, that's no guarantee it will work for YOU.
     
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    Here ya go Jack...


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  3. JackB1

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    lol. I may use that Bob! :)

    I love changing my avatar and then reading all the judgemental grumblings from "racquet-monogomists". If anyone cared to notice, they would see that my last 3 racquets are almost interchangeable and you wouldn't be able to tell them apart without the paintjob (DC Pro, Warrior, PD12). I seem to have really honed in on what works best for me through tons of trial and error. My results on the court have been continually improving and that makes me happy! :)
     
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    Couldn't tell the Warrior from the PD if they weren't painted differently?? Wow!
     
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    I probably could due to the extra stiffness and quicker response, but my point was that the specs are almost identical...11.5 oz strung, 3-4 pts HL, 325 sw. I could pick up any one of these racquets and use them immediately without much time to acclimate needed.

    I would love to try though, but I am not about to spraypaint 3 racquets and ruin them! It would be fun to see if I could identify them by feel alone.
     
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    PD is currently 11.1 ounces with 308 SW. Quite different.
     
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    those sw numbers on TW are not very accurate. Not sure why, but almost every racquet I personally test comes in about 10 pts higher than TW's numbers.. Could be the overgrip? So I am going by the racquets I have in my possession and have personally tested on a RDC machine...

    Becker DC pro...324 sw

    Warrior...326 sw

    PD12...322 sw

    I think any swingweight difference under 5 pts of swingweight is almost imperceivable.
     
  8. DILLPICKLE TENNIS

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    Just got through with a two and a half hour session, and Want to thank all the posters in this thread.....good and bad. The bad gave me something to really focus on during my hitting. For me, the Warrior is a good fit and I am content hopefully for a long time. Maybe I can be content long enough to buy up some of those $90.00 Warriors when the price falls like August hail.........borrowed from another poster, no sarcasm intended. First time I have heard that phrase used and I like it!!!!!
     
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    Good to hear! Racquets are 100% about personal preference and we often feel the need for everyone's approval, but in the end only you alone are the one using your chosen racquet. The Warrior is a very well rounded racquet that should be unusable by a wide variety of players. I still think it will end up a very popular product for Prince.
     
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    send in the "clones". they're all trying to make 11oz stiff "tweeners". pick one and stick with it. the operative word is Stick. switching racquets all the time is expensive and disruptive. But it serves a purpose. It keeps your focus on the equipment and not the play, that is, the hard work of improving your game, which isn't at all dependent on which tweener you are using.
     
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    I really don't think the PD and Warrior are the same. I own both and I find the PD noticeably lighter through the ball. Warrior is more confidence inspiring on defence and rallies, PD better for me on serve and attacking. My backhand is far better with the Warrior, the flattened winner that was so elusive for me on the Warrior is there on the PD. I am the opposite to Jack in that I play more error free tennis with the Warrior.

    In any case, the class of racket is my biggest issue now. Have now hit quite a lot with the Wilson BLX 6.1 95 16x 18 and Dunlop Bio 200. Will hold my conclusions for a few more days but playing two league matches with the 6.1 in the next 3 days. Even considering re-buying my IG Prestige Midpluses. Really regret selling them.
     
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    David...figuring out what "class" of racquet that suits you best is more important than which individual model. The rest is just fine tuning and tweaking. As soon as I moved away from flexier racquets, my serve immediately became more of a weapon and I began playing much less defensive tennis. It took me a while, but I finally figured out 11.5 oz, somewhat stiff 100" racquets suit me the best. Pro Open, DC Pro, Pure Drive, Speed 315...I could use any of them and play my game. Which model I go with is just personal preference. You seem caught between different racquet types and need to figure that one out first.
     
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    that's true....Wilson has the Juice....Volkl the Organix 8...Dunlop the 500 Tour...Prince the White...Donnay the Formula 100...Yonex the VCore. All basically Pure Drive / APD clones.

    As far as sticking with one....that totally up to the individual user. For me tennis is a hobby/sport/passion...how I enjoy it is totally up to me. Just improving is only one part of my enjoyment of the sport. If your sole purpose is to keep improving and do everything possible to play your 100% best, then yes I would recommend picking one racquet and sticking with it.
     
  14. DILLPICKLE TENNIS

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    How do you feel the 2012 version compares to the 2011?
     
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    Have you ever played with the Prince Exo3 White? How does it compare with the PD or the Warrior?
     
  16. DILLPICKLE TENNIS

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    Jack, did you ever move your Warriors on the big sell site?
     
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    Sorry to say, but yes. I am totally sold on the PD12 now :-(

    But I stand by every nice thing I said about the Warrior. I had my best singles season ever using it. But I just love the easy smooth power of the PD. I don't have to work as hard and I like that! :)
     
  18. DILLPICKLE TENNIS

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    Sounds like we are both very content (for the moment) with the choice we have made. Swing away Jack!!!!!!
     
  19. jackcrawford

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    Have you ever thought about buying just one, since you know you like to switch, and the keep your 2nd and 3rd faves as backups, given the above comment? Definitely cheaper and you still get to enjoy new frames! That's the way I used to do it when I was always switching.
     
  20. ArliHawk

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    This is what I have settled on. Using the Pure Drive 2012 as my primary racquet, and using my 2011 Aero Pro French Open as my backup. Those racquets seem to be close enough should I need to make a switch due to a broken string. Plus, if one suits my mood better, I can change to it and not feel guilty.
     
  21. YesTennis

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    For ArliHawk or others- how would you compare the 2012 PD to your APD? Many say that they are very similar, except the APD makes it slightly easier to hit topspin. The APD has a higher SW, and you'd think it would have more plow, but the consensus seems to be that you can drive the ball better with the PD. Appreciate the thoughts of those who have played with both.
     
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    You are correct in your statements above. To me the apd is better suited for a topspin game and the Pd is better for an all around game and flatter strokes. If you swing exceptionally fast and try to use a lot of topspin on every stroke go with apd. If not, then the Pd would be better.
     
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    I like to switch, but then I like to play soley with that racquet for a while. If I have 2 or 3 different models in the bag, I will be tempted to switch back and then back again....it would make me too crazy to have all these choices :)
     
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    The 2012 PD seems to have a bit more power to me and a very forgiving sweetspot. It seems easier to hit flatter with the PD, too. My forehand is greatly improved with the Pure Drive (although that may be psychological). That being said, I love the stability of both racquets, and my serve isn't quite up to par with the Pure drive since it is so new. In my mind, they are both great racquets.

    The plow argument may come down to the new PD having a slightly higher twistweight, so it may feel stable. In my mind, you can't go wrong with either racquet.

    Hope that helps.
     
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    I think having two month cycles with a single racket before switching would be regarded as great progress at my Racketoholics Anonymous meetings!
     
  26. YesTennis

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    ArliHawk- thanks for the info!
     
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    Comparing the specs, I wonder if the EXO3 Warrior plays anything like the old O3 Red. The O3 as a poor man's Warrior, even?
     
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    not too alike. The Red is very powerful and lighter than the Warrior. The Red is a tweener through and through and the Warrior is a "players tweener".
     
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    Hey Jack, thanks for your take. That was my thought, too, when I began reading this thread, but the more I read the more it made me think of the O3 Reds that I've pulled out the closet again (Aero 4G 200 is a bit much for me right now, it seems). The specs, as I pull them up with TW's comparo function, aren't all that dissimilar: the Red is only 1/2 an ounce lighter and actually lower-powered (low-medium, to the Warrior's medium rating). Swing weight and balance point aren't far-removed either...
     
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    After most of you, if not all, jumped ship to the PD 2012 or others what are you're final thoughts on the Warrior? Best setup? What are its strengths & weaknesses?

    ....I just picked up a brand new one on the cheap and am looking for a control oriented setup
     
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    I thought I was jumping ship to the PD but I'm still undecided. I like both and haven't really given the PD enough time in singles matches to make a decision I feel good about yet. I am also concerned about the PD's stiffness of 72, which is 8 pts higher than the Warrior's 64!. I also want to try a few different string setups in the PD.

    RTT if you want a control setup, just use your favorite copoly at around 55.
    I think Beast plays great in the racquet and I prefer a hybrid of Beast /Attack at 54/52.

    It strengths are great baseline hitting and it provides easy access to topspin and good pace on serve. I didn't really notice any weaknesses but some of the TW reviewers have mentioned a lack of feel or a disconnected feeling with their shots. I never experienced that, but I think it's a personal preference thing. The Warrior is just a great all around stick that has a huge sweetspot and makes the game easier. Just read my initial review on page 1 of this thread.
     
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    My fav setup was 18g poly main at 56, 17g syn gut cross at 57. Had excellent control like that. I tried several setups at lower tensions and didn't have the same control.

    Strengths- flat serve (A++), versatilty-- there wasn't single shot that was difficult with it.

    Weakness- lacked stability to me. When I added enough weight to make it stable I lost the control.
     
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    meaning when you added lead tape, the racquet became too powerful? Couldn't you adjust your string setup after you added lead to lessen the power?
     
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    Possibly, but the more I tinkered with it the less I liked it (I had to add quite a bit of weight). Also, I have this strange neck thing that some frames bother and some don't. The Warrior did, and at higher tension it would only have been worse. That was probably the thing that ultimately killed it the experimenting.

    Also, when I hit with my friends o3 white it had everything I liked about the Warrior plus fantastic stability and didn't bother my neck at stock weight. Unfortunately, the one I bought was 1pt HH instead of 4-6pts HL, basically a different frame. Waiting to see wait TW says about it...
     
  35. DILLPICKLE TENNIS

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    I finally got to go pickup my 2nd Warrior from the tennis shop today. Was just as anxious to go get it as I was the 1st one!! Jack, we are patiently awaiting your return to the fold after you do your extended side by side play with the Warrior and PD!! In print, the new Head Speed Pro Lite looks really good. I tried on a pair of these in the store today and I have to say that I was disappointed and also glad that I was. I have been using the T-22 for a couple years now and have to say they fit my foot great. Wasn't looking to switch shoes for tennis, but since our local high school colors are orange/black/white, figured it would be neat to wear to functions, but that's money I could spend on another pair of T-22's, so that's what I did..........
     
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    I was too hasty in dismissing the Warrior for the PD. I now have 2 of each and will take my time and decide which works better for me. No pressure....just waiting for one to naturally emerge as the better one for me. I need to try some different string setups in each to really decide. They both are great sticks but no matter how incredible one may be for someone else, that doesn't mean it will be the same for you. For now, I feel more "comfortable" with the Warrior and that may just be because I have logged more hours with it. The Warrior works great for my "all around" game, whereas the PD is mostly setup for crushing serves and groundstrokes. I will keep testing both and report my findings.
     
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    Ever been married, Jack? Social scientists say that online dating has made it harder for people to commit to other people because they always feel there might be a better choice that they haven't encountered yet, and it's just a matter of logging on to find out. Perhaps online demos have a comparable effect.
     
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    Yes...in fact we just celebrated our 10th anniversary! Luckily my commitment issues don't extend past sports (I was the same way with golf clubs...lol.)
     
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    That's a great point. I don't online date but I find being younger and single right now to be rather enjoyable due to technology like texting, etc.. I also like to try racquet's..lol. It definitley is due to the glut of info because back in the day I would pick a racquet that had a cool paint job and was used by my favorite player and be set for years.

    Jack the extended demo is the way to go. I am doing the same with my pure drives. Figuring out plus length versus standard has always been tough for me.
     
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    I think the extended vs plus is something you decide on early and stick with it.
    I play dubs and singles and I also tend to jammed a lot, so standard is clearly my choice. I am also 6'1", so no need for extra length and I get enough power with standard length sticks. So for me, the pros of standard outweigh the cons.
    I did use the Speed MP for a while, which was 27.25 and that didn't seem that much different, but when I did go back to standard, it was noticeable.
     
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    Just got my Warrior today. Love the cosmetic. Beam is thicker than I thought it would be. Can't wait to string it up and give it a go this week. String wise I've got Lux Savage, Mantis Comfort Poly & Tourna BHBR to choose from for mains & Gosen sheep 16, Dunlop comfort silk & Wilson sensation for crosses. Or should I try a full bed of Multifeel, Mantis synthetic Gamma Live Wire
     
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    depends how much power or control you want? What have you used/liked before in other racquets? Personally I would do BHBR/gosen at 52/54.
     
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    Assuming the Warrior has a power level near the BLX Pro Open I would think I need a hybrid set up with poly mains @55lbs Syn crosses at 60. I would do a full bed of multi at 60lbs, full bed of poly at 55. I liked a full bed of B5E in my ncode/BLX Pro open at 55. If the warrior is lower powered than I would go with your recommendation. I'll probably go through a couple trial & error weeks with string setups. Since December I'm playing with the Donnay P1 hybrid at 54/58 and full poly job at 54. The porridge is slightly too powerful on set up 1, and a tad too weak on set up 2. I will just have to experiment to see how the warrior handles. I'm pulling for the warrior because I grew up playing prince sticks and already I love how it feels in my hand.
     
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    The Warrior is slightly more powerful than the BLX Pro Open.
     
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    Poly/syn 56/57 worked best for me. Everything lower than was hard to control for me.
     
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    i'm thinking of a good setup for testing the warrior. Any thoughts?

    Full synth gut?
    Full multi?
    Hybrid? poly mains or cross?
     
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    I'm running full multi Dunlop Hexy Fiber @ 54 and I really like the way this plays.
     
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    poly/multi worked great for me at 54/56
     
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    I'm using Babolat VS touch 16 @ 60 pounds.

    It's perfect. String movement is a problem but going to use string savers
     
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    So who else is sticking with this wonderful frame? I think I Mau be coming back?. I have been experimenting with the new Pure Drive, but lost something on my serve with the switch. I also miss the softer feel of the Warrior. I went back and reread my comments on the Warrior and I must have been insane to switch away.
     

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