Prince EXO3 Warrior 100 Review

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  1. skeeter

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    Agree, the constant "attitude" thing was just getting old. Much prefer solid debate and discussion, but with courtesy and respect.

    So, I've always been somewhat partial to thinner beams (fairly recent sticks included the Donnay 94 and 99, Prince EXO 3 Tour 100, and now Head Prestige IG MP) and note that the Warrior is a bit thicker than anything I've played with before. Is it noticeable, or do you just get used to it? No twist weight issues? Also, can anyone compare it to the EXO 3 Tour 100? I actually enjoyed many things about that racquet, but ultimately left it due to the overly muted feel and inherent (to me) lack of power. I've also been more of a 18x20 person, so will be fun to experiment with the more open patterns (both the S and the Warrior).
     
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    I didn't try the Yonex but now not inclined to try anything else now. Very happy with what I have finally.

    The Rebel 98 was more forgiving but I found the Prestige S to be more accurate but maybe because it retains some familiarity with the Midplus. I also found I had the odd flyer with the Rebel which is rare for me. The Rebel was strung with Syn Gut Duraflex which didn't seem to suit it although it is spot on in the Warrior.

    If I had to play with only one of the two, I would go with the S because I would get more points from the accuracy than lose over the marginal difference in forgiveness. I would still far prefer the Midplus over both.
     
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    I was exactly the same with the thinner beams and had doubts over the Warrior when it was just in hand before I played although it felt nice, it just looked a bit thick. Totally dispelled in play though, not like a thin beam at all. The solidity and stability was the first thing I noticed.

    I had the Exo3 Tour 100 (16 x 18 ) and it was very nice but I had a little difficulty flattening out and going for winners. Someone in the Exo3 100 thread said it is a racket for working the point and that is very true. The Warrior can work the point or go for aggressive winners.
     
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    I mean "not like a thick beam"
     
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    David and skeeter, i agree with dgdavids comments on beam. It looks and feels and plays like a much smaller beam then what the specs indicate. The pure drives and pro opens seem and look much thicker and feel more cumbersome imo. That is one reason i like the warrior. It has the benefits of a thicker beam and none of the negatives. That may have something to do with the flex as well. It just fells like more of a player type racquet.
     
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    my demo was a hit heavy, but both my newly purchased Warriors come it at 328 grams fully dressed.
     
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    I don't notice the Warrior's beam looking or feeling too thick or clunky. Unless you start framing slices or kick serves, its a non issue. More of a mental issue IMO.
     
  8. BC1

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    First a little recap... I have been playing for the past four of so weeks with the Warrior - then the Rebel 98 - then the Warrior Team, and finally again last night with the Warrior. I've decided to go with the Warrior as my main racquet, but will definitely hold on to the Rebel 98 and keep it in my bag.

    The Warrior wins out over the Warrior Team due to the fact that I think it holds up better against stronger hard hitting opponents, and some of my shots - specifically serves, overheads and volleys were better. It wins out over the Rebel 98 becaue it is more forgiving and more comfortable.

    WARRIOR TEAM - The Team is a great racquet and it was a close call. My consistency on ground strokes was actually better with the team. With the Team you don't have to have a full swing to get a lot out of it. When playing with the Team all shots seemed super easy and control and power were good - but nothing stood out as amazing - just all really good, which is nothing to complain about. However I think the regular Warrior will give me more of an opportunity to improve my game and win against higher ranked opponents.

    REBEL 98 - If I was willing to work a little harder, possibly get some lessons, and wasn't looking for immediate gratification I would probably stick with the Rebel 98. It however is, as mentioned many times, more of a players racquet and is less forgiving and less powerful when hit outside the sweetspot. And unfortunately I need that extra help from a racquet. But the pinpoint control of the Rebel is exceptional. I will be keeping this one and when feeling superior I will use it.

    THE WARRIOR - The Warrior is a good combination of everything - it has plenty of power on tap, decent control, not too stiff or too flexible. But to me it really shines in the comfort area. I think it is the most comfortable racquet I've hit with. It was NEVER harsh regardless of where you hit it on the racquet face, or even when returning super powerful serves or overheads. It is far more comfortable then the Rebel 98. It is also super stable and very forgiving.

    IMO the Warriors main strengths were: Serves, Volleys, Super Stability, Power potential, and Great Forgiveness.

    The main weakness (for me) was: Groundstroke Consistency - If I wasn't being aggressive with my shots, I found balls would fly out wide or long more then I would like. I think some of this might have to do with the strings or too low tension. However, when I was more aggressive and took full strokes - or added decent top-spin, I had good control.
    Softness - at times it felt a little too soft (flexible), and I missed some of the stifness you get with say the pd, but I believe this will just take some time to get use to, and maybe a different/stiffer string set-up will give it a crisper feel. on the plus side, this softness is what helps make the racquet so comfortable and a pleasure to use.

    My Ratings:
    Comfort 83 - Amazing comfort - somewhat muted but not too much.
    Touch/Feel 79 - Touch was good, but could use more feedback.
    Serves 83 - Fantastic - as good as pd for me after a few practices.
    Groundstrokes 80 - good power, but consistency was off unless I hit aggressive or with top spin.
    Returns 83 - Best aspect of the racquet - I could hit back super powerful shots with ease- using their power, and on easy serves I could put away with ease and place returns where I wanted.
    Slice 82 - Good - I found myself slicing with ease and more often then normal.
    Topspin 82 - Very good potential, I'm not much of a topspinner, but if you have a topspin swing, I'm sure it would be great.
    Volleys 83 - Loved volleying with this racquet, better then any I've tried and my volleys were stronger and better place then normal
    Overall 82

    Overall great racquet - a definite option to the PD or Pro Open, or any other in that category. To me it has more of a players feel and is less stiff then the others, and the beam "seems" a little thinner. Hope this helps.
     
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    Jack, Thanks. And thanks for the Warrior youtube link in the earlier post. I played some of the Warrior movie clips - brings back memories - great movie!! I'd love to see it again, need to try to find it online.
     
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    Thanks Jack, DG, BC for comments. Any of you guys use a 1HBH? Curious how this performs for one-handies. It's one of the things I really like about the IG PMP with it's smaller head size and stability. But I also did ok with the EXO 3 Tour (also a 100si) as well.
     
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    Yes, I have a one hbh. I think it's fine. It worked fairly well for me last night, and my backhand is definitely not my strength. I didn't really notice a big difference over my pd or others in its class. However, I haven't had a whole lot of play time with it yet either - I think it will only get better.
     
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    Prince ECO3 Warrior 100 Review

    In my one hit with this stick my one hbh was absolutely on fire. It just seemed that i could swing through the ball much more than my pd, and the control and placement where sweet. I play the same individual every week and he was just blown away with what i was able to do on my backhand(which is not my strongest shot). I'm looking forward to see if that continues this week.
     
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    I'd like to thank the guys posting info here. You where a big help in my recent purchase of two.. I'd like to give you my feedback which may help others having tried every stick I can lately to help my shoulder and to find something I can stick with for the USTA league season. I do my best not to change sticks once it starts. Sorry if I ramble a bit.

    My progression over the last few years has been Prince EX03 Black==>Prince EX03 Tour 100==>Babolat PDRGT+==>ProKennex 7G/5KiX to the Prince Warrior.

    Having played with this for a few weeks now I feel safe in giving it my thumbs up! I think it's a great all court frame. Mine came in weight wise at 11.5oz strung which surprised me. I generally stick to racquets that are 11.5-12oz and a bit higher SW so this was an experiment for me so I expected a bit lower weight wise. Keep in mind here guys I can't stand the PDRGT standard which would be a competitor to this stick. I find it to feel harsh and very hollow.

    All that said the Warrior felt very light at first but don't let it fool you. Once I started hitting with it either from the baseline or on volleys the stick was super stable and really helped my topspin and racquet head speed. My volleys where super crisp and touch drops much better then my PK7G I've been using. It does have a bump in power compared to the EXO3 Tour but did not seem to lack the control that the EXO3 Black had where you would spray a bit. To me it feels like they combined the best of both those sticks to make the Warrior. The best part about it though is it's so easy on the shoulder/arm that I literally had no soreness after playing which is a godsend lately.

    I feel this racquet is going to be one of those underrated gems. I have mine strung up at 56 using RPM Blast 16 and it's so plush.. I really did not expect to take to this stick so well and fast but here I am. Give it a demo and see what you think!
     
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    Just weighed all the prince sticks I've been demoing. Here is what they came in at (strung, with wilson overgrip, and with the exo3 dampner):

    Warrior - 11.5 oz / 326g
    Rebel 98 - 11.04 oz / 323g
    Warrior Team - 10.7 0z / 303g

    Due to their different balances, the SW feels about the same on all of them. The Warrior is by far the most HL, 4-5pts hl, the Team is evenly balanced, and the Rebel 98 seems to be about 3pts hl.
     
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    Yes I am OHBH to and it improved enough for me to delay a planned transition to 2HBH. Compared to the PMP:

    • Backhand close drop shot - slightly better with Warrior (surprisingly)
    • Mid court to baseline Backhand slice - better with PMP but still dialling in Warrior (and it is still very good)
    • Top Spin backhand - far better with Warrior. This is the biggie for me as I tend to slice with PMP.
    • Emergency flick backhand - Warrior.
    • Deep defensive "looper" to recover position - PMP
    • Return of serve - even (again, surprisingly so I expect the Warrior will exceed as I get used to it.

    This is quite a result for the Warrior as I've only played 5 sets with it.

    Ironically, it is the 2HBH that it seems behind the PMP on. PMP feels more solid on 2HBH which is a feeling I need.
     
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    After a lengthy racquet search I've settled down with the Pro 1 but the warrior looks very intriguing.
    Skeeter I would like to hear your impressions of the Warrior vs the Pro 1.
     
  17. Alzer

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    So, after buying all those Prestige's\radical Pro you've gone with the Warrior! Interesting considering you seem to like the same sticks as myself. Just not sure I could take to the court with a light, fat, 100sq" frame :wink: Still, I reckon my club will get these in at some point so I will give it a spin (on the courts at the back ;) ). Out of interest, which club do you play at? I play at West Worthing Tennis club - do you know it?
     
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    The guy in the shop was chuckling when I bought the Warrior especially as the most recent racket before that from him was the Prestige Mid (not even the Midplus). I told him it was just for doubles and mix ins! I will paint it red and stencil "Prestige" on it so as not to be found out.

    Interestingly, a lot of our members use a Head Ti.S6 (must be a job lot!) which looks much fatter to me. One of the top 3 uses an old Radical Flexpoint Team (280g, 102 sq inch). I am only one of two that use Prestige (until now of course).

    Prestige is great (MP), far better than Radical Pro but everything is easy on the Warrior whether I am fresh or tired. Prestige is a monster until I get tired then it is hard work. I was looking for a lighter but still solid alternative and must admit, the Warrior was the last place I expected to find it but Jack's review made me try it and the experience did the rest. I will probably feel like a berk whenever people notice though!

    I am at Walton on Thames Lawn Tennis Club. Been there nearly a year. We have indoor dome courts which is the clincher! Don't know West Worthing club, bit far south for me but looks very nice. Ours is a bit smaller (9 courts) with two Dome covered.
     
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    If you bought it from PVVP was it the big dude that served you? Cant see him using a "tweener" :) I actually quite like the paintwork on the frame, just do not like the shape etc... but need to look past this as could be missing a trick. Have you got your IG Prestige Pro up for sale yet? I could be interested in that... well I am interested but just trying to halt my racket buying tendencies.

    Just had a quick look at your club, looks nice and isn't too far from us. Literally an hours drive dead south. If our website was, even somewhat, up to date I'd be on there holding the doubles trophy!! Useless lot :D
     
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    Played a match again tonight with the warrior against an opponent who usually beats me 75% of the time. I was afraid to make too many claims about what a great racquet it is because i am all too familiar with the honeymoon period. However, I am now convinced, this is one very nice racquet. I am playing the best i have in a long time. I absolutely love everything about it, and the more i play with the better it is.

    Also, I want to change my answer to the ohbh question. Yes it is definitely a good racquet for that as well. Tonight my backhand was definitely more consistent and more powerful. Also my groundstrokes where more consistent now that i have more experience with it.

    It truy is a great all around racquet. No doubt about it.
     
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    Come on, you guys are killing me!! Just fell in love with the Rebel Team 95 (oddly enough) for all-court game, haven't lost a set with it but definitely not serving great with it even after a few weeks (serve much better with the non-Team). The Warrior sounds like it has the things I like about the Reb but serves well to boot.

    AHHHHH D O N T T E M P T M E!!!! :shock::):shock::)
     
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    I have never hit more winners in my life :)

    just sayin
     
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    Why resist!! You know you're going to cave. Embrace it and enjoy it. Chances are you will be very happy. And if your not then you know for sure and got it out of your mind. It's a win-win.
     
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    Feeling the same way, and errors are decreasing as well with each set played
     
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    man you guys are killing me as well... Since i got my job i've been demoing and impulse buying on tennis... I've been looking into rackets similar to the Rebel 98, but the warrior seems to be up my alley in terms of what I believe I need from a racket to improve my game.
     
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    Looking forward to the comparison myself! Will post up when I get the demos.
     
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    warrior bags

    Ok, i know this is silly and insignificant, but it's been a long time since I've been this excited about a new racquet. As stupid as it may be, I would love to have a new Prince Warrior tennis bag to proudly carry my racquets. Prince came out with a new rebel line of bags which look good. I wonder if they will be doing the same for the Warrior?
     
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    A trophy is a trophy. I am yet to have one but working on it!
    At the Farnham branch, it is the young chap who is a coach and the older guy who seems to be the manager. At Wimbledon branch, it is Mark and Darren.

    I don't have the Pro now because they kindly switched it for the Prestige S as they needed a Pro demo anyway. Now selling 2 x IG Midplus, 1 x Mid and 1 x S! Plus selling my Rebel 98.

    Our club is nice but there seems to be suburban politics going on. Maybe that is the case in all clubs.

    Definitely demo the Warrior, I am hooked.
     
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    From reports, Warrior play exactly like i imagined when i saw specs back in the last year. Hopefully i will get chance to try it in the upcoming months.
     
  30. BC1

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    Yes, you are correct. This racquet does feel and play like you hope it would based on specs. Mine and others are slightly heavier then TWs, around 11.2 strung - 11.5 strung with overgrip and dampner. It hits a heavy solid ball but the racquet doesn't feel or swing heavy.

    Comparing it to the pd, I would say it's similar to the new pd2012 but with a little less power, a little more control, and a lot more comfort. I like the feel and sound as well. Nothing hollow about it.

    To me the Warrior is also like a slightly stiffer EXO3 tour. I love the tours but could never get use to their very low flex. The warrior has some good qualities of the EXO3 tours but with the added stiffness and slightly thicker beam it is more powerful and forgiving on off center shots.

    The TW description for the Warrior is very accurate.
     
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    I was thinking the same thing the other day :)

    I hope they make one but I didn't see any yet :-(
     
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    Jack, do you find the Beast?Attack a softer combination that the Max Touch/Pro Line 2 ?. My arm is still sore from 6 days ago, maybe i just cannot tale a poly. I hit incredible with the Warrior, i just need a more forgiving stringbed. Also can you point me in the direction as to how to string this a a two piece. Thanks for all your input.
     
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    Interesting indeed. Mine are strung with Prince Syn Gut Duraflex and I love it. Maybe I got lucky. That Mike fella is very like me only faster, more agile, better serve, backhand, forehand, volley, pace and movement but otherwise, it was like watching a video of myself...
     
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    lol :)

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    No poly mains hybrid is going to be softer than a multi mains hybrid. If you get sore you should try full multi or a multi /syngut combo. What are you using now?

    I love my hybrid of Beast 17 w/ Attack. Anyone else try this combo? I love it.

    What advice do you need about stringing 2 piece? You need to start the crosses on the correct side or it won't work.
     
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    ^^^^ The demo I've been using is strung with a prince poly 3d /prince syn gut hybrid. It may be similar to your setup Jack. I like it, good power and control and seems soft on the arm. No problems.

    Maybe the tw review is right and the racquet is string sensitive? Not sure since i've only played with this one setup. Like dgdavid said, i must have got lucky.
     
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    ^^^^ Regarding the TW video review of the warrior, the testers referred to the racquet weight being 11oz strung. However, from the posts I've seen and my own demo, many warriors are coming in at 11.5 w overgrip and strings. I'm not sure if tw was just rounding it off or not, but I think a 11.5 racquet will play differently then an 11oz racquet. Just a thought.

    ...Just replayed the review and watched it more closely this time. It's actually a pretty fair review, it also seems like the more they played with it (especially Chris) the better it got. I too had this experience and it wasn't until my second time out with it that I really started to like it and things started clicking. Or in hinesight, maybe it was the strings, and they just needed to loosen up a bit.
     
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    Hi Dgdavid,

    Which rebel are you selling? If it's the EXO3, I might be interested in taking it off your hands.
     
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    Most racquets take me awhile to adjust but I actually felt comfortable with the Warrior immediately. But remember, those reviews are just a few people's personal opinions that may or may not jive with yours. I wish they would have had a solid 3.5 reviewing it. That's who this racquet seems perfect for.
     
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    Hi there. It is the Prince Exo3 Rebel 98 (the new one). Full weight one (300G unstrung), not the team. See this:

    http://tt.tennis-warehouse.com/showthread.php?t=414927
     
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    True, however I don't think this racquet is any different then the PD, pro open and others and is suitable for any level 3.5-4.5. On the positive side of the review, Mike said he liked everything about it and would probably switch to it and I think I read somwhere where he was a 4.5 +.

    Anyway, hopefully it won't deter others from trying it. That would be a shame.

    (On a different note: I let a buddy of mine hit with it yesterday - he loved it btw - but as he was hitting with the warrior I played with the Rebel 98 for the first time in a couple of weeks. Wow! I'm very glad I kept it. I know it may not be good for my game, but I can see myself switching back and forth)
     
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    So this stick isn't really like a Babo where a pro player could use it too? I was just curious what makes you think it's more for just for a 3.5.

    It sounds like the TW demo folks could throw on some lead at 12 to take care of the plow issues. That usually solves it pretty quick.
     
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    Mike is a 5.0 and switching so can't be that bad! Personally, I don't see what you lose by being a better player. It is deceptively solid and stable despite 300g unstrung.
     
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    I think it could definitely be used by any level - just like the PD. I have played with the Pd for years (and love that racquet as well), and to me the warrior is very similar - just has a different feel and is more comfortable - it may not have quite as much raw power - but it's not far behind.

    No plow issues at all. Of course the demo I am using is 11.5 strung with overgrip - so maybe that's the difference.
     
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    Yeah thats what I figured. It should be fine for any level of play.
     
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    I generally use Babolat Xcel 16 premium at 57 or 60. I have never tried dropping the cross tension, is that something that is advisable? Any suggestions on syn gut.
     
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    What does the Rebel 98 offer that the Warrior doesn't and vice versa?
     
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    Yes of course it could and I believe Isner has made it his racquet now, but I just would love to hear someone on the TW team review it that is at the same level I am. I don't know why everyone on the review team is 4.0 or 4.5 and above? The majority of their customers are probably 3.0-3.5.
     
  50. Faithfulfather

    Faithfulfather Rookie

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    Location:
    Louisiana
    Isner is still using his O3 White with a paint job.
     

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