Prince Precision Mono 650

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  1. OHBH

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    Just picked up Prince Precision Mono 650 from a dude on craiglist for $20. I am curious about people experiences with this stick. I haven't gotten to playtest it yet as there is a bit of snow on the ground. So I need suggestions on ideal strings/tensions so I can get the most out of it. I don't know what strings are currently in it (looks like prince syn gut w/duraflex in yellow, can't be sure) but they do seem to have some life left. Thoughts?



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    That sounds like the original strings. I've played with several set ups in it in the past. I found it a pleasant racket to play with at higher tensions, but that's just my preference.
    Go at 58 with poly's and 65 with multi's.
    Just give it a try with the current set up, let a good stringer check the DT on it and go from there.
     
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    I loved them for doubles!!!! Fast transition stick at the net... ever! I like them strung at a lower than recommended tension.
     
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  4. Player#1

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    Were there ever any other good graphite monoshafts made?
     
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  5. Hannah19

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    I believe the Prince was a good racket. Proof of this is the fact that they are very wanted by players and collectors alike.
    When ever I can acquire one, I will because I can allways sell them anyday, everyday.
     
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  6. GS

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    Years ago, Prince also made the monoshaft Ripstick, with a 104 sq in head, and 29" in length.
    The Mono had a 97 sq in head, and was 27" in length. Connors used the Mono. Maybe he still does.
     
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  7. jayserinos99

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    I've picked a few up over the years. I really liked them at a lower tension; it just fit my doubles game much better. Point and shoot volleys and really biting slices that stayed low. It also opened up the sweetspot as the Mono's sweetspot wasn't exactly the biggest; even though it was a 97" the sweetspot made it seem like it was a bit smaller than that. Definitely a firm feel but not overly harsh.
     
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  8. Player#1

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    I also believe the Prince mono is/was a very good racket... I'm just surprised that in over 30 years of graphite frames it seems to be the only good one produced. (The ripstick looks to me like it was a rec player's stick rather than a competitive racket)
     
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  9. OHBH

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    Finally got a full playtest of this racket today. It definitely performed better than I had expected. Very solid stick, I am considering making it my regular playing racket.

    Serves: the serve one of the strongest aspects of my game, my second serve is often stronger than my opponents first and I get a lot of free points. A racket that doesn't perform well in this category is a no-go for me. To my surprise I was able to hit the serve just as heavy and fast as with my prostaff. My accuracy on the first serve was not quite as pin-point but that is to be expected with a new racket. It would take a while before I could be in tune with it like I am with the prostaff 85.

    Groundstrokes: I was getting better depth and pace than usual. Fantastic control to boot. Had my opponent running around the court like a chicken with its head cut off. Not quite as good feel or plow like the prostaff but I'm sure a fresh stringjob at lower tension can give me the dwell time I am looking for.

    Slice: From what I have read the Mono is a great slice racket. I would rate it as good but not great. I get a good deal more depth and pace with the slice with my prostaff, though with the Mono I was able to get a bit more sidespin causing the ball to tail away quite a bit more.

    Volleys: Just as everyone has said, this thing is fantastic at the net. I was getting much better depth and pop on volleys so I wasn't working so hard to put the ball away. After a while I became confident enough where I was serving and volleying fairly often with much success.

    Returns: solid returns all day long. It was stable even against the very heavy serve of the young club pro who was filling in for some mens dubs with us.

    Overall I see no real weakness in this racket. The only thing I didn't like is that it didn't have the plush feel that I am used to getting with the prostaff but I was hitting such a good quality ball that I could learn to love it, especially with a nice gut or even a multi at a lower tension. I am going to be sticking with this one a little while to see how it grows on me. A must hit IMHO
     
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  10. frinton

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    I haven't played with my Monos in a long time and I am not sure anymore what they used to be like exactly, how my game has evolved etc. But I played Mono for around 10 years. I loved this sticks, bit they started breaking down on me (I believe silicone in the handle dried out). Never have I volleyed anymore like I used to with the Mono. I still have 3 of them and wonder were the missing one is... I will not exclude going back to the mono at some point in time.
    Did anybody else experience trouble with their Monos? Thy all felt like something was rattling inside the handle. How did you fix it?
    Should TW ever consider a re-edition, I would order 4 or more of them. Also the PJ was simple beautiful.
    Thinking back it feels like a childhood love ;-)
     
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  11. OHBH

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    If you take off the butt cap their is a cylindrical lead weight that weighs almost ONE FULL ONCE encased in some silicone type of material. The silicone in mine had broken down into a slimy mush (Something I assume to be very common for this racket as my research has shown me). I cleaned it out and removed the weight entirely. This worked out great as the heat shrink sleeve and leather grip I installed perfectly counterbalanced the lost weight.
     
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  12. serve and Justin

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    I searched Prince Mono and found this...Wish I kept the test model they had sent me. I loaned it out since they asked to get another opinion on it and never got it back.

    For some reason I loved serving with that goofy thing.
     
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  13. Rock Strongo

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    I have a Mono on my way now as well and I'm pleased to hear about it being great at net. Will pay about €30-35 for mine and can't wait to finalize the shipping info and have it in my hands around next week!
     
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  14. Jerry Seinfeld

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    Took a hiatus from my Mono for a few years and decided to go back to it for 2014. It is frightening to think I first played this stick 20 years ago. At that time I played with multis at high tension...around 65ish.

    Man, how I've missed this stick. It is a solid performer from all areas of the court for me. I especially love the feedback I am getting from my newest string set up...I don't recall it ever feeling better or more connected to my game. Sunday was my first league match of the year and i walked off the court with a 6-1, 6-2 victory...not what I expected, that's for sure.

    I have mine weighted to 11.8oz strung and the flex nowadays is down to 63. SW is in the 320s and everything is solid, stable and a pleasurable. The string setup I am using is a shaped poly main at 44lbs with a natural gut cross at 48lbs. I have tried many string setups and for me, this is a magic setup and my primary reason for posting tonight.

    This racquet hums right along with today's newer strings and in fact, in spite of being 20 year old technology it is as relevant today as it was when it was first introduced...maybe moreso. Sure wish Prince would bring this technology back...it has stood the test of time and remains as much fun to hit with as ever.
     
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  15. frinton

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    One day, I will go back to my Mono's too!
    ...I need to fix the problem inside the handle though first...I think replacing the silicone inside... who has experience with that? most or all of my Mono "rattle" inside the handle and I believe it is a weight that is moving due to silicone or another substance that was injected into the handle... Any help is more than welcome.
     
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  16. Jerry Seinfeld

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    It's an easy fix. Remove butt cap. You will find gooey silicone with a lead weight encased. Get rid of all the silicone and clean off the weight. If you want to adjust weight you can add or reduce the amount you place in the handle cavity. Once weight is added go ahead and get out your hot melt glue gun and fill the cavity with hot melt glue encasing the weights. Once the glue sets, replace butt cap and add new grip. You will be good to go. Should not have to worry about hot melt glue breaking down. Enjoy your Mono!
     
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  17. Long Face

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    Just bought one of these today in a used sports equipment store at $45. 4 3/8 grip. Almost new.

    I will try it tomorrow evening in doubles and see how it performs.

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  18. Long Face

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    It seems to be a demo racquet.

    Question: Are there different head sizes of this racquet? Mine seems to be quite big, but I am not able to find any indication of head size on the racquet. I don't know whether it is a 98, or 100, or even 110 head size.

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  19. big ted

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    i think all are 97
     
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  20. goran_ace

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    All that means is that the original buyer got it for free/cheap from the rep and isn't allowed to sell that specific frame retail. Whether it was actually used as a demo vs something a teaching pro used personally you can probably tell by the amount of abuse it's been through. Looks like its in pretty decent condition though, at least in the pics.

    I playtested that racket a long time ago and remember that I wasn't impressed at all. Unique design but otherwise it didn't play that great but also wasn't awful, and that's pretty much all I can say about it.
     
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  21. Long Face

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    I used to own such a racquet 10+ years ago, but now I cannot remember what it was like.

    Will test drive it tomorrow. Hope that it plays well.
     
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  22. frinton

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    Shoot me a PM in case you do not like it ;-)
     
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  23. Rock Strongo

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    SHOOT ME ONE! I am in more need of one ;)
     
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  24. Long Face

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    I play-tested the Prince Precision Mono last night for 2 hours. Half an hour warming up, and 1.5 hours of doubles. My plan was to use it until I fall behind, and I would pull my Blade out to catch up.

    I ended up using the Mono the entire time, because I didn't lose one single set.

    The Mono is slightly heavier (349g) than my Blade 98S (327g), but I can swing it properly. It really shines in serves, volleys and overheads. Very good accuracy and control. It feels like if you want to send the ball to a certain spot (say the gap between two opponents), the ball would go right there.

    Groundstrokes from baseline is so so. The old strings on the Mono have lost most of the tension, so balls are landing deeper. Amazingly very few of them are long. Speed and spin are both good, but not as good as my Blade. Single handed backhands are comfortable - if you could get the racquet there, the ball will go back with decent spin and pace.

    The mono has a similar feel to wooden racquets. Whenever I miss the sweetspot, the racquet will twist a littbe bit, making me feel the softness in the shaft. But at least my wrist and elbow don't feel any bad vibrations.

    The next step: I will re-string the Mono with multifilament at mid tension, and see how it performs. I think it likes lower tension, and am debating whether I should try lower tension to start with. Decision... decision...
     
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  25. PrinceMoron

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    I have a matched pair

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  26. Rock Strongo

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    I am just waiting for my new one to arrive in the mail. I hope it's tomorrow... The absolute best volleying racquet I've ever used.
     
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  27. ChrisABC

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    Prince Mono, they make me more aware of how I stroke the ball.
    My main racquets strung at 50 lbs- more comfortable than higher tension for me.


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  28. AndrewD

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    I've got 5 of them that are no longer used or wanted (one in good condition, the others are pretty beaten up). A wonderful racquet for volleying, chip-charge tennis and slice backhands. Strangely, of the 5 racquets, the only one that has a problem with that silicon pouch (or whatever it is) is the one in good condition. I bought that one in 1998 I think and the others were acquired in a trade.
     
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  29. Rock Strongo

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    Want an email when I get my salary?

    And as for that rattle, remove buttcap, encase weight in toilet paper, stuff it in. Thing will never rattle again. Only problem is that the staples were so deeply set that I destroyed the buttcap getting to it...
     
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  30. Steve Huff

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    Prince made a larger mono call the Mach 1000 (I think that was the name). Also, Fischer made some Mono's. I have one. It's not as sleek as Prince's model. The shaft is rectangular and bulkier looking. They had some sleeker models though.
     
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  31. ChrisABC

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    I hit once with a Prince Ripstick, 29" racquet, it was the hardest serving racquet I ever hit with !!! But too much power on the ground strokes-(I was hitting out).
    I bought 3 Monos- lower powered, I generate my own power.

    Here's some Mono shafts- (there's a huge "Prince Thunder Power Drive 900. 29".... 116 sq. inches")

    http://tt.tennis-warehouse.com/showthread.php?t=242551

    Prince Mach 1000, 124 sq inches (humungous)the bay item 191385728952
     
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  32. Mick

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    I got a few monos but just only one experimental

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  33. joe sch

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    Was a great racket for Connors and all the flat hitters wanting to increase the power from the mono shaft wood rackets and steels, like Jimbos t2000. Below is another look at one of the nice prince offerings:

    http://www.woodtennis.com/connors/prince_mono1.jpg
     
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    Wow - you are quite the "Mono-man" - are you still playing with them?
     
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  35. Mick

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    yep. i believe I bought about 15 of them before I called it quit :)
    I would only use them now and then.

    The problem is if I play against a very good player, these racquets are not the best ones to use due to the mono shaft. I feel it is not as stable as the dual ones. And if I play against a lower level player, I would want to use a more demanding racquet than the mono to keep the hitting session more interesting.

    the name mono-man reminds me of this production supervisor I once knew.
    He would never use my real name, he would always call me bimmer-man because I drove a BMW :)
     
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  36. Jerry Seinfeld

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    I've been back on the courts with my Monos now for the past year and a half. Currently using a hybrid of WeissCANNON Black5Edge Mains at 42 lbs and L-TEC Premium Gut at 46 lbs. The Mono at lower tensions with a blend offers extremely balanced play from all areas of the court. Still volleys as well as anything I've hit with and the slice is outstanding. Best of all, it's just a lot of fun on the court and I'm enjoying winning with it.
     
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    Unique design but terrible racquet
     
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    I tried prince mono demo at ninetees, but was not impressed. That time I didnt play often and was too fixed to wilson ps 85.
    But I bought two monos from german **** very reasonably. Yesterday I played with them and I was very positively surprised. It felt better than pro staff ncode or blx 90, which I have mostly used lately. Maybe that had something to do with the weight contribution, but i became suspect that wilsons are too heavy to me. This far I have liked ncode ps 90, BLX version is someway more difficult.
     
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    Whats there so terrible?
     
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  40. dak95_00

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    This is one of many reasons I love this site! I picked up a Mono and then I started feeling that rattle. I took off the buttcap and found the goo and the weight. I cleaned it up and then did a search on here. Problem solved!

    I can now enjoy this racquet without the fear of it breaking and with the knowledge of knowing where to look when problems occur.
     
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