Prince Woodie W90 Pat Cash Model

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  1. rodracquet

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    After winning Wimbledon in 1987 Pat Cash hooked up with Prince to find something that was a little more like wood than his magnesium model. They put 5 of these sticks together in a 90 version of the woodie 110 with a graphite laminate. Pat didn't like either so I am very lucky to have been gifted one of the 5. Thanks to my Swedish connection

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  2. joe sch

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    That w90 prince is a very nice piece of tennis history. I remember a rumour that Cash used a PK Golden Ace painted to look like a Prince Woody. Wonder if its a paint job or really a limited Prince production ? In either case, a very rare collectible.
     
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    Thats a great racquet. Same cosmetics as the Prince Woodie. For 1985 Cash played using a custom made Prince Woodie in midsize. Then in 1986 he swicthed to the Magnesium Pro 90. Maybe those racquets are from the 1985 season?
     
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    Indeed, I have a 1986 German-market Prince catalog in my collection of miscellaneous 80's catalogues, and there is a large photo of him with the midsize Woodie, in action... taken the season before.

    I wonder how close these are to a Slazenger V-24 in size, shape, and pattern... Rod, do you have a V-24 to compare the two?

    Thanks for sharing, by the way - I enjoy your posts on Facebook and recommend everyone subscribe to the Aussie Collectors feed.
     
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    Beautiful racquet!
     
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    A couple of people have suggested this W90 looks like a Slazenger V24. All I have on hand from that stable is a VILAS PRO which is very similar indeed. The W90 is a tad wider, and the handle a little shorter. Drill holes are close but not the same. Wood laminations also different. I will say they are closer than the true Woodie model is to the W90. I guess if they were a hand made run they could have come from any stocks even PK.
     
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    Retrowagen, please post a pic of Cash with the mid size Woodie. Assume then that they did market a model like this or similar.
    Thanks Rod
     
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    Prince never sold or marketed a midsize Woodie. Prince advertised Cash as using the Prince Woodie that was sold to the public and that was called Oversize but in reality was 100sq.in.
     
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  9. retrowagen

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    I'll try to dig out the brochure and scan that photo when time permits.
    It is quite obviously a mid; it looks different than the oversize, consumer Woodie.
    One obvious way the Slaz and the Prince Cash model differ from the PK Golden Mid is that there is no "collar" flake of wood above the grip on the V-24 or Cash Prince.
    And I don't think it was ever made public - Prince killed their OS Woodie the following season; the market's impetus had moved on to newer materials... ceramics, kevlar, magnesium, etc. and to lighter, stiffer construction.
     
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    Can we simply surmise that it was manufactured by whoever was the predominant OEM for open-throated woodies back then? All I can think of is Kennex/Kunnan Lo. Any others?

    The woodflake collar was omitted and the "W-90" typeface closely resembles the sans serif (Helvetica?) of the V-24 - something easily adjusted for on the OEM production run-sheet?
     
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    I fear the PK Golden Ace rumour came from me. I had Mark Kratzmann hitting at my old club in the mid-late 80's and mentioned the 'small' Prince Woodie and he said it was probably a painted Golden Ace.

    Doesn't mean it was.

    It's a great find you got there Rod!
     
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    Nice find Rod!

    This would be a beast!

    I never saw this but I do remember Cashy trying to get the weight off the V24s.
    He did his shoulder playing with the Slazengers and I know they were popular with quite a few English pros in the 80s. I remember picking them up in 83 and thinking..no way!

    They were way too heavy for me, the POG was solid for 4 or 5 years but I could not play with them at any altitude! You had to watch stringing with poly in them otherwise it was ridiculous! So much power going from the Dunlop Maxply fort with gut...

    Peter Mac played the woodie for a while too and if he hadn't have hurt his knee would have been solid for Prince for another 5 years at least.
    Paul Mc got Cash into the Princes I think, Magnesium was a better fit and the rest is history..

    Thanks for the memories all of you.
     
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    Yes, around mid 80s the 85si rackets were considered mids and 100si head size rackets were called OS.
     
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