Priority One, Stringing & Customizing, and The Hall Of Fame

Discussion in 'Stringing Techniques / Stringing Machines' started by drakulie, Sep 6, 2012.

  1. monomer

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    Thanks for that article. You should be also be complimented for being an excellent writer. It is one thing to know what you want to talk about but another to make it such a compelling read.
     
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  2. ericsson

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    Great stuff Drak!
     
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  3. SwankPeRFection

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    Well, there you go. Anyone that says they have a new RF frame with the ProStaff paintjob on it that doesn't have the signature both on the bridge and the inside of the throat.... is lying. :p
     
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  4. McLovin

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    Drak, I've been reading this thread & enjoying it, thanks for the work.

    One question: Did anyone 'screw up' in the middle of a frame? And if so, who eats the cost? For example, you're stringing the frame and midway through the crosses you realize you forgot to drop the tension 2lbs as requested. What happens?

    I know this sounds like a rookie mistake, but considering the volume of frames done each day, someone has the screw up at least once.
     
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  5. Rabbit

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    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
    that's a great question!
     
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  6. drakulie

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    Thanks for all the nice comments everyone.



    McLovin, good question, unfortunately, the answer is very basic...... Back-track and re-string.
     
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  7. McLovin

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    Any extreme cases, like someone measured incorrectly & cut the string short, but it happened to be string supplied by the player? Or maybe the gut was nicked & snapped during stringing?

    Just curious how mistakes are handled, and who pays for the error.

    I guess maybe I'm not thinking on the large-scale operation, where a pack of gut isn't that big of a deal, as opposed to a small-scale home operation where margins are tight, and distributors aren't standing around willing to hand out free stuff to players.
     
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  8. drakulie

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    ^^There were no errors where a string was snapped or damaged where it couldn't be replaced.

    Only thing that happened (on first day) was RPM 17 snapping on a star 5 while pulling tension. Star 5 Tension heads are notorious for snapping thin string, so any player who used RPM was assigned to stringers with Star 4's. No one really paid for the error as the racquet ended up being strung.



    thanks for pointing that out Irvin. :)
     
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  9. Irvin

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    We all know what you meant but I'm sure you meant to type ... Where a string was snapped or damaged that couldn't be replaced. Just a slip of the fingers. LOL
     
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  10. ART ART

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    @drakulie: when customizing the rackets for the players, do you or P1 staff, have any concerns about this subject?:

    " Optimum Racquet Balance for Performance II - MgR/I Data for ATP Pros "
    http://tt.tennis-warehouse.com/showthread.php?t=387805

    What's your opinion about it ?

    Thank's a lot!
     
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  11. Torres

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    Is there any objective reason why they use Bab 4 stars over say something like a Baiardo? Other for reasons of sponsorship all the pro stringers I know prefer the Baiardo for speed, comfort, ease of use etc
     
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  12. Rabbit

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    From what NF has said, the Babolat Star 4 is the most portable of Babolat's machines which is a big requirement for them in travel.
     
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  13. TennezSport

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    Thanks.........

    Really nice post Drak, thanks for sharing. We need more articles like this to display the talents and experience of the racquet techs.

    Cheers, TennezSport :cool:
     
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  14. bbulla

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    Hi,

    So at pro events, how much are pros paying to get racquets strung? I'm not talking the pros on contract with P1, but the other pros with no contracts. Do they just pay for the service and supply their own string??
     
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  15. jeroenn

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    Excellent article, very cool, thanks for posting that!

    @Ron: Are you guys going to be in AMS for the NL / Swiss Davis Cup this weekend?
     
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  16. drakulie

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    I've skimmed over that thread and found it interesting how higher swing weight correlate to higher ranking and that is where it ends for me. I do, however firmly believe that players should use the heaviest frame they are comfortable playing with, and more mass has benefits that lower mass doesn't. Such as less shock to the arm, more energy transferred back to incoming shot, with less effort, etc.

    As Rabbit pointed out, they are much easier to travel with.

    On another note, they are extremely consistent, easy to string on, and reliable. When compared to a Baiardo, Babolats are much faster to string on, simply because the tension head pulls and releases WAY faster. Not to knock on the Baiardo, I own two.

    Glad you enjoyed the read. Thanks!

    Pros pay for the service and supply their own strings. I believe it was $28 per frame.
     
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  17. schap02

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    Great post Drak.

    Congratulations on the hard work paying off.
     
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  18. Filipinotennis

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    Great post as usual!!!
     
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    My philosophy now is that you want to use the heaviest racket possible that does not bother your shoulder serving. Once you find that swing weight, then you have your ideal racket. If you go lighter than that, then you might start running into elbow issues. Just my 2 cents.
     
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  20. Squidward

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    Great Job Drak! Really Appreciate the insight to P1 and Your Efforts!
     
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    Amazing post! Thank you for sharing!

    Vini
     
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  22. stringertom

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    Great post, even better photos and the Q&A part of the thread is even more informative!

    I was the sole stringer at a Futures event in Vero Beach for 7 consecutive years and can personally attest to the strain mentally and physically to maintain quality service through the peak periods of the qualies and main draw. 150 restrings may not sound like much for a ten-day schedule but pare off the last three days of the maindraw when you might get only a dozen tally and you can see there are at least one or two days with both feet on the ground for 16-18 hours. Towards the end of one of those shifts is the time that defines your professionalism and dedication to the end goal of giving each player the opportunity to play his best tennis with the craft you provide. In some ways, I think it's even more pressure to perform at the lower levels because it's down there in the "minors" where these kids build their confidence and resumes. I also think a very important and time-consuming service I provided to many of the up-and-comers was educating them about my preferred techniques and the impact of using them so they could know what to ask of the next tech assigned on their schedule.

    It was always a great relief when the finals were completed and I had gotten through with zero complaints but I got an extra bonus several of those years when both finalists thanked me in their postmatch comments. Mission accomplished!
     
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  23. brittboy23

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    Great Post Drak

    Drak thanks for the time and effort it took to share with us your experiences and insights into the P1 team. The pics were a nice touch. I would some day like to be able to drop by P1 and have the opportunity to see the operation and talk to these great racquet technicians. Who knows maybe one year time permitting they might be able to do a seminar at the GSS Symposium.
     
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  24. Roger Wawrinka

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    That's awesome having players thank you for your stringing at the end of the tournament! Good for you!:)
     
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  25. Roger Wawrinka

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    Drak, if you have anymore pictures or anything else to share with us about P1, or you stringing with them and the other few guys at cincy, I think I speak for everyone that posted on this thread when I say, we would love to hear about it:)
     
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  26. drakulie

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    Thanks for your post. Glad to know many people, and stringers such as yourself "get" my article and appreciate it in the sense of it being a reflection of the entire stringing community.

    P1 would be a very nice touch at a symposium. Maybe one year they will take a time out to participate.

    I'll try and post a few more photos in the next few days. Stay tuned. :)
     
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  27. schap02

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    YOU OWN TWO NOW???????
     
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  28. hrstrat57

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    Just caught this thread, I usually don't venture into this forum...tho clearly I should visit more.

    B T E

    (best thread ever)
     
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  29. GlenK

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    That's been my experience as well. For a while I kept reading about how great lighter racquets were and kept trying them. Then finally realized I never played well with one longer term. It was always a short term results only.
     
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  30. schap02

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    Glen - not to derail this thread, sorry, Excellent choice on your signature frame....I use the IG - have special pallets and lead from 5 & 7 up to 10 and 2
    same basic string setup except a few pounds tighter

    sorry for taking up a posting non-thread related, just pointing out
     
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  31. GlenK

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    Thanks schap02. I've been playing with the Prestige line for well I don't remember how long...
     
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  32. schap02

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    No Prob.
    I recently had new pallets installed and it changed the frame 100%.
    Really enjoy them
     
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  33. drakulie

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    Yes. :)

    Thanks. Glad you appreciate the thread and enjoyed it.
     
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  34. darklore009

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    Some of the best post I seen. Been dying to know some info from p1. Does federer have a special customized grip that they made for him?
     
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  35. Sinner

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    Glad I was directed to this thread from the Courier-Gear thread! What a great read! Thanks for taking the time to share, Drakulie!
     
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  36. drakulie

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    Thanks for your input. Glad you enjoyed the thread.

    Yes, Fed has a custom grip. Feels a tad bit smaller than a 4 3/8.

    Thanks, Sinner. Appreciate your feedback.
     
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  37. mdqm

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    Hey mi amigo,the best thread I've seen, thank you very much for sharing it with us.
    by the way,i have a lot room around here,if you need space in you apt i'm will be very happy to keep one of your stringer for a couple of month.
    big hugs my friend,see you soon
     
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  38. mike84

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    Don't visit this section often but wow what a great post.

    Amazingly insightful thread.

    Thanks.


    You should get your own separate section on tt.
     
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  39. mad dog1

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    drakulie: first of all: thanks for sharing and providing insight into the world of a professional stringing. very cool!

    since you own a star 4 and 2 baiardos...if you were to string two of the same racquets, one on the star 4 and the other on the baiardo at the same reference tension using the same string, technique and stringing pattern, would the racquets have the same ERT readings? if not, how much difference have you measured? (assuming you've tried this before)
     
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  40. drakulie

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    magic man, thanks for your thoughts and glad you enjoyed the read. I'll tell you all about it when I see you next week.

    Thank you. Much appreciated.

    mad dog, thanks for the question. Although I have never done a direct test of stringing a racquet on the wilson, and another on the babolat immediately afterwards to compare results, I will note the following:

    Every racquet I string, I keep a running log of tension, string, pattern, ERT and SBD immediately after taking the racquet off the machine. I have noticed that most times, the ERT and SBD are nearly identical regardless of machine.
     
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  41. athleticstennis

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    I don{t know if this question has been asked before. What are their preferred way to start mains and crosses in 2 piece job? If 1 piece job what is their preferred pattern? Are there any best knots for less tension loss?
     
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  42. mad dog1

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    drak, thanks for the reply. it's good to know that there's little if any variance when racquets come off of either machine.
     
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  43. 15_ounce

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    Wow, thanks for sharing your experience!

    Are there any other company other than priority one also going around the pro tour? Or Priority One is simply the best of all?
     
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    Great Stuff, Rick! Keep up the great posts!
     
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  45. drakulie

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    **** and also Yonex has a stringing team. I would definitely consider P1 to be above all.

    Glad you enjoyed the thread. Thanks!!
     
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  46. Florico

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    This thread is really interesting! Thanks Drakulie! I hope a new update will come soon... Sorry for my english but i'm a french guy...
     
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  47. drakulie

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    If I am privileged enough to be asked to string with these guys again, I'll definitely provide an update. :)
     
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  48. 2ManyAces

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    Really cool thread. Thanks for all the pics drak. Really interesting seeing the frames!!
     
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  49. AlfaAce

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    I know you are biased ;) :), but if you could answer non-subjectively... besides "collective experience"... why is P1 "above all"? Fantastic thread! Thank you!!!
     
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  50. drakulie

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    Federer
    Sampras
    Agassi
    Murray
    Djokovic
    Tsonga
    Fish
    Raonic
    Henman
    Safin
    Hewitt
    etc
    etc
    etc

    Hope that answers your question. :)

    Seriously, when you see the quality of their work, from balancing, matching, the unmatched artistic and beauty of the workmanship of their custom grips, and fact they have consistently been providing many of the greatest players racquet services 20+ years, there isn't much else to say except that they are simply the GOAT (greatest of all time).

    They are also nice guys.
     

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