Priority One, Stringing & Customizing, and The Hall Of Fame

Discussion in 'Stringing Techniques / Stringing Machines' started by drakulie, Sep 6, 2012.

  1. drakulie

    drakulie Talk Tennis Guru

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    Not sure what you mean by "wilson/****" style????? I suppose you mean they do this as well?? (sorry for confusion)
     
  2. pauliewa

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    Thanks kkm.

    I realized I've strung the blx 6.1 95 and iirc the mains end at the hoop. So wasn't this racquet (strung by drakulie) using one of the atw patterns? If so, what would that pattern be exactly that does the throat the "Wilson/****" way?
     
  3. drakulie

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    No, it does not have an ATW pattern. It is strung two piece. (gut and poly)

    I simply skipped the second to last cross and went to the last cross, then came back up and completed the second to last cross and tied off.

    I suppose wilson and **** also use this method??
     
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  4. pauliewa

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    Hah please excuse the rook mistake! Two different color strings, and four knots and I somehow wanted to believe it was an atw with a special Wilson and **** take on finishing crosses...

    I guess my curiosity still has me asking if this could be applied to an atw -- skip 3rd to last, do the 2nd, finish on the 3rd. If there's merit to this technique on a two piece could the same be true for this?
     
  5. kkm

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    Yup, exactly!
     
  6. kkm

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    Depends on the atw, but for simplicity let's say it's a frame with mains ending at the hoop (and doesn't need to be strung atw). For a frame like that you could do the same with the last few crosses, doing the third, skipping to the bottom, and doing the 2nd last and tying off.

    I don't use this technique though, on the racquet in question, shown in the picture, "I enlarge and use 8T to tie the mains. I enlarge and use 9H and 9T to tie the crosses, and enlarge both the rightside and leftside 9H and 9T, along with both 7T, so that blocked holes are not an issue."

    I just don't see the need to create a hard weave (the second cross from bottom) where not absolutely necessary.

    Plus, the way I do it, going from the bottom cross, grommet #7, to the second cross, grommet #9, to tie off, it's a very short distance anyway.
     
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  7. sixone90

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    Sorry my bad, I meant the Alpha not the Babolat RDC
     
  8. geekydeveloper

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    Please post more pictures
     
  9. Trippisthebest

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    Hello Drakulie, is your shop called Match Point Tennis?
     
  10. rqtguy

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    Super Thread Drakulie!
    Spent the last hour and a half reading it from start to finish.

    Have read many articles about P1 and several in depth interviews with Nate.
    You still managed to cover different ground and from a great perspective.

    Just two questions:

    "Every racquet I string, I keep a running log of tension, string, pattern, ERT and SBD immediately after taking the racquet off the machine. I have noticed that most times, the ERT and SBD are nearly identical regardless of machine."

    Can you clarify what ERT stands for and what equip you use to measure it?

    Same goes for SBD?

    PS I read stuff like this whenever I can and yet none of my non stringing tennis friends believe any of it. Go figure!
     
  11. chjtennis

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    Hi, I am a newbie here. I'm glad I've found and joined a forum which has so much expertise in the sport of tennis!

    Thanks, Drakluie, for sharing your expertise and experience on this topic. I thoroughly enjoyed reading your posts. I just have a question. Nate Ferguson, in an interview with TW years ago, said he modifies retail version K-factor 90 racquets for Federer. (around 7:03 of this video)

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Eql8Jnpa9Bs

    Is that the case with Pro Staff 90 BLX as well? Also, How many of the pros use retail version as the basis for modification? Do racquet companies actually produce different racquets for pros? Or, do they just produce racquets which anyone can buy from the shops so that people like Nate can modify them? I am fascinated by all these technical side of tennis, to be honest. I'm so glad I have people I can ask these questions.
     
  12. Tamiya

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    Yup. Often their names are incorporated into the paintwork.

    Search re "pro stock".



    The Marketing Dept would want you to believe that pro players use exact
    same stick bought from K-Mart, that's like saying you can buy a
    NASCAR Camry just by walking into your local Toyota dealer.

    Pro stocks are supplied to player's customiser to exact specs ordered,
    they might even be bare "hairpin" frames with nothing applied or cut
    then customiser finishes it off into a playable racquet.

    Player might have less say on the paintjob their sticks have though,
    this would be up to what model the Marketing guys want to promote.
    Different &/or older designs often painted up to look like latest models!!
     
  13. shubydoobydo

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    Man just found this thread. Great stuff! Can we elaborate on the knots that the p1 guys use. Agree this is major area in loss of tension
     
  14. Dags

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    It turns out that the guys at P1 use different knots. See Ron's post at the top of page 7 in this thread:

    http://tt.tennis-warehouse.com/showthread.php?p=7026681#post7026681
     
  15. tennisboy731

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    How much money does it cost?
     
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    P1 gold service costs 40,000 for the 4 grand slams and 8 major tournaments. (Other tournaments extra). 14 players use p1's gold service.
     
  17. Imago

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    Do you travel the entire team or send voyagers for each major event?
     
  18. MattPrevidi

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    If I could shed some more light on this situation...

    I have been lucky enough to be a part of the Indian Wells stringing team the last 2 years. I thought I knew a lot about stringing and customization before, and boy were my eyes opened when I got there that first day 2 years ago.

    Casey (pictured in Drakulie's photos) is just mind-blowing with his speed and efficiency. I literally had to stand there and watch him string an entire racket one day because I thought he was somehow cheating or doing some trick to pump them out so fast. On a good day at IW I would complete 25-35 stringjobs, which includes string removal, stencil and a well done professional job. This type of day would take me from about 6am until somewhere around 11pm or midnight.

    I am not exaggerating when I say that Casey would do excess of 40-50 frames a day and leave around dinner! His days began around 4am usually (He likes to string when there is less action in the trailor) but to see him carry on a full conversation and finish 4 frames in the time it takes you to do 2 is just demoralizing!

    Doug (also pictured) is one of the coolest guys out there. Super knowledgeable and someone who really has a passion for what he does. I am so lucky to have been trained by these guys who are truly the unsung heros of the tour.

    Lastly - Casey holds the unofficial record for speed stringing at a pro event. One year at IW he did 4 rackets for players in the tournament - 4 different rackets with different patterns and unmeasured string - in 52 minutes.

    The only time I have ever seen him mess up is one time he lost a reel of Jamie Murray's string......which was later found to be knocked underneath a nearby trashcan.
     
  19. berdych31

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    Thats 13 minutes per stringjob including stenciling and measuring.
    It would take me 52 minutes for 1 racquet.
     
  20. BounceHitBounceHit

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    This thread reminds me how many thanks I really owe to Geoff (1stServiceTennis.com) Custom pallets, precise frame matching, and of course string jobs that are stunningly consistent. Thanks Geoff!!! Best, BHBH
     
  21. drakulie

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    Thought I'd drop by and give an update to this thread. Currently at the Sony Miami working again with the boys from P1. Great to be chatting away with Nate (and as always learning),,,,, Ron is currently on his afternoon jog, and Glynn is on site picking up/dropping off racquets.

    Photo from last years Cincy tourney.
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    Enjoy! I'll try to give an update at tournaments end.
     
  22. darklore009

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    nice picture and looking forward for the update. i guess we're dying to ask you to take some pics of fed's racket. hope this would give us TT members some idea what that racket is. Thanks
     
  23. beernutz

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    Roger looking like just another stringer.
     
  24. Irvin

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    Drakulie could not help but notice the different stringing machines. Do all pros at least have all their frames strung on the same type machine? Do some pros prefer different machines?
     
  25. MAX PLY

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    Nice to see my friend Chuck (in the back) still focused on his craft, despite the celebrity interruption. :)
     
  26. blackfrido

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    you are the man!!! I understand why never returned my calls anymore :)
     
  27. zapvor

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    thanks so much for sharing!

    so it sounds like i may be able to string for indian wells based on what you said. i am no casey, but if i have to i can crank out about 4 jobs in 60min. but that would not include stencil.

    what machines did you use?
     
  28. zapvor

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    thanks so much for sharing! are those star 3????
     
  29. drakulie

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    Unfortunately, I can't give away any info on the frame. To be honest, there isn't much to give really that would add to what is already available in the pro gear section.

    There are a few Star 5's, and the rest are star 4's. Once a pro is assigned to a stringer, they stay with that person for the duration of tournament. As far as pros preferring a particular machine, I would say they don't know nor care,,,, they sometimes prefer a stringer because they may be familiar with that stringer.

    Chuck is a professional thru and thru no matter what is going on. :)

    Star 4's
     
  30. zapvor

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    thanks for all the info and pics drak! thats very neat to see and nice of you. so i missed out the boat on star 4:(
     
  31. ericsson

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    Nice pic Drak!
     
  32. drakulie

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    Thanks, glad you enjoyed.



    Anyway, tournament was great. Awesome to once again work with P1, and for me, this time around especially nice to work across the great Nate Ferguson, night after night. Quite a treat, and as always, learned something new.

    Couple of photos:

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    I'll post a couple more photos later this week.
     
  33. darklore009

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    you and nate are having a great time. You stringing wawrinka's racket? Nice pics and looking forward seeing more good pics
     
  34. MattCrosby

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    Drak I am awfully jealous of you, but also happy for you.

    Stringing for players is like a pride (I've strung for a few players at a Local Tournament before, Kevin Anderson and Fogini a few years back)
     
  35. drakulie

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    yeah, I was stringing wawrinka's frames. we had a good time.

    some more pics:

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  36. zapvor

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    thanks so much for sharing drak. so they put you up in a hotel and you set up in there?
     
  37. darklore009

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    Baghdadis new pacific frame?
     
  38. drakulie

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    we were set up in a 3 bedroom condo. nice place not far from tournament. great views of the downtown.
     
  39. Automatix

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    Great stuff, thanks Drakulie!

    [​IMG] ROTFL. It's great when you get to have some fun at work.
     
  40. Irvin

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    Drakulie do the P1 stringers pull extra tension on the outside mains or is that a player option?
     
  41. zapvor

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    cool! how many stringers are on staff for the tournament?

    by the way i recently picked up a cam action plier and watched your youtube on using it, so thank you
     
  42. Rip n Roll

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    I was wondering if any of you guys at Priority would/could suggest some alternatives to RPM blast for recreational yet highly competitive players? Blast is my favorite for its characteristics. I just can't afford to restring it as fast as needed with all the tension loss!
     
  43. Rabbit

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    That is a great question! (I suspect Drakulie will come back with Genesis Black Magic....)
     
  44. Irvin

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    http://tt.tennis-warehouse.com/showthread.php?t=464288
     
  45. zapvor

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    black magic is terrible. there is way better out there
     
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    In all honesty, I don't know, but if I had to guess, I would say, NO.

    zap, there were 4 of us striinging. Also, glad the vid helped,,,,, the cam action is my favorite tool.

    If you like RPM that much, have the string pre-stretched in order to take out the initial tension drop. Other than that, alu power, black magic, adenaline, sonic pro and Im sure there are several other strings out there. good luck.

    depending on who you ask, I'm sure there are many more srtings that others like more than black magic. That said, compared to RPM, it holds tension better, maintains it's playing characteritics longer, has more power, provides as much spin, and is more elastic, which results in more comfort. All that, at nearly a third of the price.
     
  47. bluegrass_stringer

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    It is actually a pretty damn good string for the money. YTEX Pro Tour string is on par with RPM, and it might even be cheaper than black magic.
     
  48. zapvor

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    wow only 4 stringers. you must be busy!

    i totally agree with you. i hate rpm. its over priced, and over rated. its just that black magic is not a good alternative.
     
  49. blackfrido

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    Who's racquets are the Pacifics?
     
  50. drakulie

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    Frido, those are baghdatis' frames.

    Hope all is well with you.
     

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