Discussion in 'Pros' Racquets and Gear' started by Overdrive, Jan 26, 2013.
So they are not exclusively for their clients? They do general tournament stringing too?
They can be, but I don't think they string racquets for players like Gulbis and Isner. They either get their racquets strung from somewhere else or something.
For the Average Joe? They really pay for the bronze or silver plan. I think lower-ranked players or players that play in the Futures do the silver plan.
I would love to know exactly how many Gold clients they have today..........if they have 20 or more adding how many Silver ones I'm sure they make a nice solid living......also didn't the Gold service go up in price? I have heard it was closer to $50K now -
Bet they are not flying full fare Business or First Class (USA to Europe in First today will run you $10,000 or more RT).
P1 is the on-site official stringing service at Cincinnati. At the other tournies - the majors, masters 1000s, the WTF - they're off-site to string for their gold service clients only.
The Davis Cup teams (Swiss, Serbian) that have P1 string for them have them as their "official" stringer, working more or less on-site.
**** takes care of the US Davis Cup team.
Not at the Aust Open or US Open as the Wilson stringing team run by Ron Rocchi strings for those events. The French Open uses the Babolat stringing team and I believe Wimbledon uses Alpha or Babolat teams. Maybe UK Skippy can shed some light on Wimbly as he strings there yearly.
They do still string for Gulbis and Isner. Isner especially because he is high maintenance.
Really? I didn't know they could even afford it to be honest... :|
Me too. But they wouldn't reveal that publicly.
Really? 50K? I bet people say that's still too low...
Wait, $10,000 to Europe Round Trip?
Apollo Leisure runs the Wimbledon stringing service.
ernest gulbis's dad is one of the richest human in europe
You know, being wealthy gives a player an advantage to turn pro... to a degree.
You must not travel very much - as of today if you want to purchase one (1) FIRST Class seat from IAH or DFW to CDG (Paris) leaving mid May and returning mid June the fare is between $16,500 and $18,300. That's totally normal these days for First Class to Europe.
Flying from Tampa where many pros live and I believe P1 is based for the same dates to Paris is between $17,000 - $19,000 per ticket.
Business Class for the same flights is about $5200
I travel for a living and spend on avg $150,000 on airfares per year on international flights.
I do, but I only flew four times within the Continental United States.
Wow, that's a ridiculous amount of money.
I honestly couldn't spend that much on airfares. I guess you make it all back from you job correct?
To sum it all up:
If you're a pro, it's probably a frugal decision.
If you're not, yes, it's a huge waste of money, unless you're willing to spend that much.
business travel (first or business class) is always expensive nowadays.
if you are a student or travelling on your own dime, economy prices are good even on long flights.
Apollo was the company I could not remember and I misquoted Alpha. I had also heard that Babolat was trying to take over Wimbly, so didnt know if it had happened or not. Thanks KKM for the correction.
BUT!!!!! Remember, that if a player reaches just one more round, that 'payday' is an easy argument for their having TOP-LEVEL / consistent service... Hey, if they pay, and are happy... what is the 'beef' here!?
Like anything in life... if you want the BEST... you need to pay for it - geez!
Use an actual word that's in the dicitionary instead of 'beef' like 'problem'..
Anyways, there is no problem; it's just a friendly conversation about P1.
I mean do they ever do general stringing like Wilson does for tournaments?
It's called a colloquialism, much like hogwash. And last time I checked, "beef" was in the dictionary.
yeah his dad sold a bunch of computers something like that heard it on espn when gulbis was playing a match
Yes, the Wimbledon stringing team is run by Apollo Leisure, which is a string distributor and machine service agent in the UK. Before Apollo it was Bow Brand. I'd think that all major companies (that can) would like to get the official service for Wimbledon; but the thing that makes Wimbledon, Wimbledon is the English way it is run. You can see that there is very little advertising around the ground. They also tend to keep things the same, which is why the stringing service went from a (relatively) small English company to another, and not a big corporate name. There is also little to no public exposure of the stringing area as its hidden away by the practice courts.
Overdrive was talking about a dicitionary not a dictionary.
you're dealing with a kid high school kid who has no idea about real-world costs, expenses, travel or much else for that matter.
From Merriam Webster:
I stand corrected. I don't have a masters degree and never had to use a dicitonary. Maybe one day I'll buy a dicitnary just for fun.
thanks for your oversight
Right, I'm a high school kid that has traveled through the country (for tennis tournaments and vactions) who has no idea what the value of a dollar is. There's alot of people here with poles up their rumps....
Players don't have to use such a service, do they? Don't all tournaments have stringing services - you always see those little segments at Slams and other tournaments where a stringer will be asked whose racquet he is doing and how long it takes. Granted, this may not be as great as Priority One, but I'd assume it's what most players do. And, at least at the bigger tournaments like Slams, is the stringing service paid for out of tournament coffers, or does each player pay for every frame strung?
You decide whether people can use the word "beef"?
Players pay for their own stringing at tournaments. We do it for the love, but also for a living.
Most players use the on-site stringing service.
If a player is sponsored by Wilson, he usually gets free stringing at the tournaments that Wilson strings at, same for Babolat-sponsored players at the French, Tecnifibre at Monte-Carlo and so on. Otherwise players pay for on-site stringing service. Most tournaments deduct stringing fees from the player's prize money, though some don't and have players pay by cash or credit card.
And some try not to pay at all!!
It's sad but it is true!
Any offenders you can mention by name?
Give up the names skippy!! :twisted:
It's probably better in the interest of discretion not to name names, but there are some big, big-name players on this list.
Sorry, as mentioned by KKM, I can't really divulge that information.
Hope you understand.
Oh well, I'm not honestly surprised they tried to get away with a free stringing service anyways.. :|
It's cool that Benjamin Becker is on the IW draw. Is he still sponsored by BB?
Thanks for the heads up Paul. Yes and I also could not believe how small the stringing area is, hope they make it a bit bigger in the future.
From a few years ago, a little birdie told me that Chang gang was notorious for not wanting to pay....
Obvious troll is obvious.
Surely. I never meant to suggest that the stringers aren't paid, just asking who exactly paid them.
Holy crap, I was only asking a question..
Another person with a pole stuck up his rump.. It's funny that it's the same person who had nothing to say but negative nonsense in quite a few threads.
You can call it whatever you want, but you're still wrong.
I have strung at pro events and there is a very simple rule. Do NOT let them run a tab! Not EVER!
How come? Because they never pay? Is this similar to keeping tabs at a bar or something?
You can deny it whatever you want, but I'm still wrong.
Oh yes. Many try and sneak out without paying.
Ha, this reminds me of trying to steal candy from a candy store or something.
Separate names with a comma.