Pro Kennex Composite Ace

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  1. GrandIllusion

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    Hello all, I picked this up today at a flea market and was wondering if anyone knew any info/specs? I did a search for Composite Ace, but was having trouble finding much info. Thanks.

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  2. GrandIllusion

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    Apologies in advance, I'm very new to classic racquets
     
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  3. coachrick

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    No apologies needed. I'm guessing this was a SMU for a large retail chain. I don't recall seeing it in the southeast US. If I had to wager, I'd expect it to be a 80/20 graphite/glass combo.
     
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    Nice find.:) This Composite Ace is 90 sq.in, 340g unstrung, 16mm beam, balance around 310mm HL.. not sure about the RA sorry.
     
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    Whenever I see a Kennex racket with the leading monikers "Composite..." or "Comp..." I usually take it to mean a mushy, flexible stick whose predominant material is fibreglass with only a smattering of graphite. So instead of an 80/20 layup as found in the Silver Ace, these "Composite" ones would be at most 40/60 graphite/fibreglass, or even less.
     
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  6. GrandIllusion

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    Awesome, thank you very much for the info guys. Much appreciated.
     
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    The frame above isn't as mushy as say a Pro Kennex Copper Ace 90.

    It's actually nice and firm comparatively speaking.

    I picked one up a few years ago at the Goodwill Store. It was priced at $3 and it happened to be 50% off day. Definitely not bad for $1.50.

    I get the impression that fiberglass is "looked down upon" as a racket material. I discovered that I really like it in rackets. Frames like the Wilson Jack Kramer Staff Midsize, Wilson Graphite Force Midsize, Prince CTS Precision 90, etc. are all frames that I really enjoy(ed) over the years. It really adds weight and dampens shock. I wish more modern frames would have it like in years past (basalt?). Although when you're getting in to the old Yamaha rackets that were almost all fiberglass, that was too much with too little graphite.
     
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  8. GrandIllusion

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    Right on, thanks. Mushy refers to the ball kind of sinking into the racquet's string bed, or no?

    If so, the Composite Ace definitely felt this way and very thin (I think "flexible" is the term I'm looking for here?); however, I haven't played with any of the other Pro Kennex Ace racquets so I can't really compare.

    The Composite Ace was definitely fun to hit with though, and has a very different feel from all of the stiff frames I've used in the past. Big flat serves and volleys were a treat, though I found it somewhat difficult to generate spin on both the forehand/backhand (This could be in part though because it hasn't been re-strung in God knows how long)
     
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    I've got just about every frame made in the 80's. Most were box beams similar to yours with 85-90 heads. They are so similar it is obvious many were made in the same molds. The big difference was the mix of graphite, fiberglass and other materials. Graphite pre-preg was still new tech in the 80's and very expensive. Mixing fiberglass, kevlar and ceramic fibers brought the cost down while making for more flexible frames.

    The Taiwanese were the first to figure out how to make graphite pre-preg in volume at a reasonable price. Kunnan made racquets under the Pro Kennex name and they made a majority of the "graphite" frames sold in the 80's under contract. So Wilson, Prince, Head, etc. frames were often made by the Kunnan folks.

    The binding materials were pretty rudimentary back then and have a tendency to break down over time. So a lot of the "difference" folks feel in those old racquets has to do with material fatigue, not quality or material lay up. It was the advent of the light shell molding techniques we see today that really allowed racquet designers to create the subtle variations on a theme we see in today's frames.

    Enjoy your old frame. Just realize its probably different than other ones just like it depending on its use and care.

    -k-
     
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    I"m a fiberglass fan.
     
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  12. GrandIllusion

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    Thank you, netman. Very informative.
     
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    so am i.

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  14. Virginia

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    Me too

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  15. GrandIllusion

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    Virginia, that's a beautiful racquet collection you have. Nice little background story too!
     
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    Oh thank you GI - glad you enjoyed it! :)
     
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    i remember this frame , are like th eprince grahite pro , but more cheaper lik this , very good frame
     
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