Pro Players' Racquet history

Discussion in 'Pros' Racquets and Gear' started by Tennis Man, Sep 15, 2006.

  1. Tennis Man

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    any1 knows where I can get it?

    I'd like to know how often the pros switched their racquets and why (even if it's along the same line). Someone like Lendl, Becker, Sampras (I know he loved just his PS 85), Agassi, Federer, etc?

    I can't believe that Carlos Moya played with soft drive? WTF?
     
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  2. neo

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    I'd like to see that too.
     
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  3. Jesse K.

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    Great idea for a thread...bring on the histroy people!!
     
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    Hmm it's hard because of the amount of paintjobs. For example:
    Agassi : POG, Head Radical, Ti Radical, i. Radical, LM Radical, FXP radical
    but in real terms
    Agassi : POG, Head Radical
     
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  5. Duzza

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    I know that federer used a Prostaff Original 85 in his junior years up until he became noticed. Then moved to the Prostaff Tour 90, Hyper 90 or whatever it was, Ncode.
     
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  6. vsbabolat

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    Duzza, you forgot the Donnay Pro One oversize Agassi used from 1989-1993.
     
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  7. Duzza

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    whoopsies.
     
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  8. Tennis Man

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    Wow, we got real tennis historians here. Thank You.
     
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    lol yeah, i'm 16 years old.. sorry just know a bit about agassi :p
     
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    cashie and lendl

    ok here goes:

    Pat Cash:
    1. Slazenger wood racquet (up til end of 1984 (including during loss in US open semi to Lendl)
    2. Prince Magnesium Pro (from 1985 to 1998)
    3. Yonex R-50 (the blue raqcuet)
    4. Yonex RQ 180 (the grey one)
    Retired
    5. Volkl (some yellow one?)

    Lendl
    1. Adidas (the grey one, with a really long throat)
    2. Mizuno (dunno model name)
    Retired
    3. Golf Clubs

    Sorry don't know exact model names of all!;)
     
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    Before the Slazenger V-24 (midsize wood composite), Cash used the Stellar Centre Court (traditional size wooden racquet) and prior to that he used a Slazenger traditional size wooden frame. Before the Mag Pro he used a midsize Prince wood composite frame that many claim to be the ProKennex Golden Ace with Prince decals. After Yonex he used a number of different racquets, two of which were the Fischer model used by Stich and Masur and the Head Prestige. The Volkl frames he has played are the T10mp Gen1, T10mp Gen2, T10mp V-engine, DNX10 mp.

    After winning Wimbledon, Cash switched to the R-50 to get more power and beef up his groundstrokes. Got him to the quarters of the French Open but I don't think it was a good move.
     
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    I thiunk the Lendl was the GTX-Pro for Adidas. before that, tho, it was Kneissel.
     
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    Lendel used the same Kniesel mold throughout his career. Kniesel sold the mold to adidas, and when he went to Mizzuno, Adidas sold the mold to Mizzuno for an undisclosed amount.

    This is still true with some players. Look at Dunlop selling Blake's old mold to prince.
     
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    Thomas Martinez did a brilliant job a few years ago where he wrote a series of posts called "Racquets of the Pros" looking at the movements between frames and companies of the various players.

    He also did another fantastic job with his "Bloodlines" series - about the development of particular racquet models. This was back on the old board though - not sure if that's still accessible. I thought at the time - and still do - that these were some of the best things ever posted to TW.

    Thomas is my hero - even if he does wear a skirt from time to time!
     
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  16. Tennis Man

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    Could you please post any links, a summary or something?
     
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    No. These posts were all on the old TW board - well before it moved to this new standard bulltein board format. I don't know how you'd find them. The wayback machine perhaps?
     
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    Lendl did historically on grass use the bigger head for the grass courts. Even at the end of his career. When he was with Mizuno, it wasn't that they got the Adidas mold, but Mizuno designed a mold off his Adidas frame. He also laterly used a Bosworth designed 10 sided frame that Mizuno made for him since he was a longtime Bosworth client.
    And what is wrong with wearing a skirt? Us Irish and us goth do that from time to time!
     
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    Heh! You shoulda seen me in all my gothic finery earlier this year mate. I was part of Australia's biggest Goth fashion parade in March. Great fun. You should come over for it one year.

    PS - leave me an email if you'd like to see some photos of the parade.
     
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    Hewitt used POG in his junior years, then when he came on the tour he got sponsored by Yonex so he started with Super rd tour 90 in fact that is what he is still using right now
    (paint job of course) then Yonex Rd-ti 50 when he won us open with then Mp tour-1 racquet he won wimbledon with, then it was RDX 500 then RDS001, but Rd-ti 50 never had in 90sq in version.
     
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    POG OS or MP?
     
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    It was a Graphite mid, and it's little known that Yonex also had him try MP-1 90s, adn even had him with RD-Ti 70 cosmetic, which never made it past the practice court, nor did the MP-1. He thought the 70 cosmetic was too showyor something like that, dont' remember the exact reason. And Galin, yeah, I'd love to see them and that's just the excuse needed to go down to Oz, since I've never been. Though I cannot send you a mail wihtout an address! :) Mine is drivemehrd@aol.com
     
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    ti-70 cosmetic too flashy and then he gets the rds neon yellow PJ? the ti-70 PJ is plain compared to the rds
     
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    Not really a list or anything, but if you go to GettyImages.com and search under sports section for the player's name and a certain year you can usually find pics. I found pics of Moya back when he was w/ prince by searching this way.
     
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    Yeah, but you forgetting about paint jobs. Not everyone can tell what is real and what's a PJ.
     
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    Tried that and could only go back two years, 36 pages of pics. Moya used a Pure Control but before it had that woofer system.
     
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    Nope, Carlos never used the Pure Control in any of its forms. When he came to Babolat, he started to use the Soft Drive, which he had weighted to be like his old Prince Synergry Lite MP. When they went to teh Woofer Line, he was using the Pure Drive without Woofer, still with the weighting of the Synergy, and which he is still using to this day.
     
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    Thanks, I think. That old PC plays a bit different than the woofer series in all its incarnations, prefer the old one from the 90s.
     
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  31. thomas martinez

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    Well, the original Pure Control as played originally by Kenneth Carlsson, Sebastien Laureau, and Richie Reneberg was more or less at the time a competitior of the Pro Tour by Head. It was a 630 Head, and had an 18 x 20 pattern with a 19mm or so flat beam. It was made out of teh Donnay Pro One midsize mold more or less.
     
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  32. Ronaldo

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    Not sure if this is the original, no woofer, bought it new in Montreal.
     
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    Maria Sharapova: Head Prestige, Prince Hornet, Prince More Attack, Prince Shark, Prince O3. Andy Roddick also used the POG OS and a Yamaha.
     
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    Mac:

    Wooden Maxply
    His brother's Max 200G
    Yet calls for a return to wood.
     
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    But it was June in ENGLAND, and let's face it, that's like winter anywhere else 90% of the time :).

    As for me - I noticed the deep knee bend and eyes-on-the-ball ;)
     
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    Before the Maxply it was a Wilson Jack Kramer and rumors say, that his wooden Dunlops were only pj's of the Jack Kramer.
    At the end of his career he was trying a lot of different frames for short times: Völkl TR 25, Yonex R-23 (I think was this number, the one Gomez played) and I think there was also a Prestige.
    After he retired he used a Völkl C10, then switched to a Dunlop 200G and now he's using a Maxply McEnroe (the graphite retro-model).
     
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    One of the biggest "switchers":
    Felix Mantilla
    Wilson PS 6.1
    Prince Precision Graphite II Longbody
    Völkl C10 x-tended
    Völkl Quantum 8
    Völkl Catapult V1
    Völkl Tour 8
    Völkl Tour 8 V-Engine
    Völkl BB 10
     
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    Jimmy Connors:
    Wilson T-2000
    Wilson T-2000
    Wilson T-2000
    Wilson T-2000
    Wilson T-2000
    Wilson Pro Staff Original
    Wilson T-2000
    Wilson T-2000
    Slazenger Panther Pro Ceramic
    Slazenger Phantom 90
    Estusa ???
    Prince Precision Mono (which he is still using!!!)
     
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    Martina Hingis:
    Völkl AeroLite (or something like this)
    Yonex RD-7
    Yonex SRQ 500
    Yonex SRD Tour 95
    Yonex Pro RD 70 Long (or something like this)
    Yonex RQ 700 Ti
    Yonex Ultimum Ti Super RQ 1700
    Yonex MP-5i HS
    Yonex V-Con 17
    Yonex RDX 300
    Yonex NS RQ 7 Tour
    Yonex RQS 11
     
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    http://www.tennis-warehouse.com/Reviews/RQ700TI/RQ700TIReview.html
    http://www.tennis-warehouse.com/Reviews/1700/1700Review.html
    http://www.tennis-warehouse.com/Reviews/YMP5H/YMP5HReview.html
     
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    But this page only says which paint was on the rackets. Lot of them are not correct.
    BTW: I think, that Moya uses a Soft Drive is a myth. Maybe he did, but I can't believe. His actual frame has a stiffness of RA 72! That's not soft.
     
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